And yeah I realize they were in a high-pressure moment trying to do the right thing, but you know what? That's life. And it's their job. You don't perform at your job, you're a liability to the company.

It's more accurate to say they ruined their own lives by not performing at their jobs. Personal responsobility. If your kid get suspended for beating up another kid at school, do you get upset at the kid on the playground who tells the teacher ? It's definitely victim blaming to say you're "rui...

Do you think the victim has a right to press charges against the police? It's fine if you wouldn't yourself, but would you morally object to others doing so? If you do object, that's kinda victim blaming. The victim totally has that right, but I would certainly frown upon it. His anger should be di...

Do you think the victim has a right to press charges against the police? It's fine if you wouldn't yourself, but would you morally object to others doing so? If you do object, that's kinda victim blaming. The victim totally has that right, but I would certainly frown upon it. His anger should be di...

Do you think the victim has a right to press charges against the police? It's fine if you wouldn't yourself, but would you morally object to others doing so? If you do object, that's kinda victim blaming.

And to be fair, it was refreshing for both of us to derail the argument and talk about something else after you tried like ten different arguments and nothing was hitting. You did us both a favor. :P You really had to quickly throw together one last straw man as an "excuse" to leave the t...

I'm going to try to use the "human mistake" excuse to get out of any situation now. The admission leaves you consequence-free, I hear.

And to be fair, it was refreshing for both of us to derail the argument and talk about something else after you tried like ten different arguments and nothing was hitting. You did us both a favor. :P You really had to quickly throw together one last straw man as an "excuse" to leave the t...

And to be fair, it was refreshing for both of us to derail the argument and talk about something else after you tried like ten different arguments and nothing was hitting. You did us both a favor. :P You really had to quickly throw together one last straw man as an "excuse" to leave the t...

Tory/DUP coalition coming? That would be gross.

Oh baby! Hung parliament.

That was perfectly put. I was so caught up in making the point that we're all at risk every day of losing our jobs over mistakes, I missed the obvious point that certain professions just clearly should be held to a higher standard. Good post.

And to be fair, it was refreshing for both of us to derail the argument and talk about something else after you tried like ten different arguments and nothing was hitting. You did us both a favor. :P You really had to quickly throw together one last straw man as an "excuse" to leave the th...

Okay you added another one. Fair enough, that's a good example. Do you not see how this militant police culture is bad for police as a whole? Tasering a dude into a coma and causing life altering brain damage =/= kicktaps. I gave in and derailed away from the argument with you to go out of my way a...

It's always weird when people want to cape for people who suck at their jobs. Always some favoritism toward the profession, of course, because you can't hold all of society to the standards of these jokers. Society would collapse.

Jason, explain why choosing not to hold the police accountable means that the criminal would serve a longer term in prison, since you continue to insist that the criminal will only serve six months while you press charges against the police. As I see it, either way the criminal gets off too light. ...

Okay you added another one. Fair enough, that's a good example.

Do you not see how this militant police culture is bad for police as a whole?

sorry for expecting accountability from police. the london bridge cop was a hero. these cops were fuckasses. police come in all stripes. and that's where i have to leave it tonight. Nope, you can't distinguish between good cops and bad ones. If you have a problem with one, you're attacking all of t...

Jason, explain why choosing not to hold the police accountable means that the criminal would serve a longer term in prison, since you continue to insist that the criminal will only serve six months while you press charges against the police. As I see it, either way the criminal gets off too light. ...

sorry for expecting accountability from police. the london bridge cop was a hero. these cops were fuckasses. police come in all stripes. and that's where i have to leave it tonight. Nope, you can't distinguish between good cops and bad ones. If you have a problem with one, you're attacking all of t...