More destruction of historical statues and monuments

[Tiggnutz]

I'm old and dating myself but I couldn't wait for Friday nights as a kid to watch Dukes of Hazzard. Had no idea about anything but the Duke boys and there super awesome car helping people and catching bad guys. Now I hear the car promoted slavery is just ridiculous to me.

I'm not familiar with the Dukes. But sone things get very dated and are hard to watch again.

There car was called the General Lee.

[showa58taro]

I'm old and dating myself but I couldn't wait for Friday nights as a kid to watch Dukes of Hazzard. Had no idea about anything but the Duke boys and there super awesome car helping people and catching bad guys. Now I hear the car promoted slavery is just ridiculous to me.

I'm not familiar with the Dukes. But sone things get very dated and are hard to watch again.

There car was called the General Lee.

LMAO. Guess I have to insist they remove those shows now to be logically consistent.

[zombie]

True. The statues aren't wrong because of what they make Nazis do. Nazis are wrong because of what Nazis do.

well, we've come to some agreement then. the statues are not wrong. if you feel that removing them will stop the wrong, i hope that you're right. and that this censorship and vandalism does actually work to stop racism and bigotry, and that it does not take more and more censorship as an effort to stop the racism and bigotry.

[zombie]

I like having zombs on my side of an argument someone who reacts with reason not emotions

Sadly he's hit logic with his reason.

The best of us can see further than what's right in front of us I can't always do that. Respect

I feel like I'm being called a Prognosticator. Like a ground hog.

Nah but you may be a slight more emotional driven it's ok though

I thought it was me you were calling emotional. I really don't feel like I am. Bizarre. Genuinely just taking down logically flawed arguments and sticking to my principles. I also love arguing with Zombie. He's actually going to address me as a real person. Notjust a punching bag. There's respect between us.

my arguments don't seem to be logically flawed? people are pushing for censorship and vandalizing monuments. it started, recently, with confederate figures. then to slave owners and civil war figures. so my argument is logical and reasoned. where is the flaw?

Slippery Slope Fallacy and Causation-Correlation Fallacy plus the false equivocation of the totality of America opposing Nazis and their love of racist monuments with a small handful pretending longer term historical figures are equated.

the near totality of americans do absolutely hate and oppose nazis and extremists and supremacists. i am not pretending otherwise. you're trying to twist my position to be a fallacy, when it is not. i can see that things are already starting to move further, than where you think they should stop. so yeah. my hope is that they do stop at a certain point, that isn't too far from actual confederate figures and slave owners in our history.

You've literally just used the fallacy to describe the fallacy you're not using. My man.

Sadly this has been awesome but I have an early start. Need to sleep. Later Z, Tigg.

i can point to proof that it is actually happening, and that's a fallacy. nice logic there. have a good night.

[zombie]

i think i've only seen the dukes of hazzard as a kid. and i was too young to really remember it at all.

[Tiggnutz]

Good night brother

[Foo]

Ironically, the Dukes were benevolent liberals who spent their days fighting injustice where they found it. Amazing how the perception of the flag changed since that show was on the air, despite the flag being long defunct.

[Tiggnutz]

Ironically, the Dukes were benevolent liberals who spent their days fighting injustice where they found it. Amazing how the perception of the flag changed since that show was on the air, despite the flag being long defunct.

Teach people that something is evil instead of it actually being so

[Jason]

WWII American soldiers flew the Confederate flag on their war tanks as they rolled in and pummeled the nazis.

The flag means different things to different people. I imagine as a Southerner, hearing some fag throw a phony tantrum and label them racists is pretty annoying.

[Foo]

I support a ban on hijabs because I do not support the oppression of women. It doesn't get much lower than a culture that shames a woman for merely showing her face.

[Foo]

WWII American soldiers flew the Confederate flag on their war tanks as they rolled in and pummeled the nazis.

The flag means different things to different people. I imagine as a Southerner, hearing some fag throw a phony tantrum and label them racists is pretty annoying.

As a proud Southerner, I kinda enjoy the tantrums.

[Tiggnutz]

The hijab thing for me is like this wear what you want but your I.D. will have your full face and if an establishment says no face cover than you need to just deal with that.

[zombie]

The hijab thing for me is like this wear what you want but your I.D. will have your full face and if an establishment says no face cover than you need to just deal with that.

agreed. telling them they can't wear it altogether, is the same as telling them they must wear it. at least that's how i feel.

[Foo]

Defending the hijab because some woman may like it is like defending slavery because a slave liked it.

There is coercion at play.

[zombie]

Defending the hijab because some woman may like it is like defending slavery because a slave liked it.

There is coercion at play.

coerce the coerced, foo. oppress the oppressed.

[Jason]

Many lazy North Americans wear hijabs to cover their fat. They're called a moomoo.

"ALOHA SNACKBAR!"

[Jmac Attack]

Many lazy North Americans where hijabs to cover their fat. They're called a moomoo.

"ALOHA SNACKBAR!"

Ok, I did really laugh out loud.

[Jmac Attack]

WWII American soldiers flew the Confederate flag on their war tanks as they rolled in and pummeled the nazis.

The flag means different things to different people. I imagine as a Southerner, hearing some fag throw a phony tantrum and label them racists is pretty annoying.

As a proud Southerner, I kinda enjoy the tantrums.

Wait.....I thought you were from Connecticut or Rhode Island or summat?

[Foo]

WWII American soldiers flew the Confederate flag on their war tanks as they rolled in and pummeled the nazis.

The flag means different things to different people. I imagine as a Southerner, hearing some fag throw a phony tantrum and label them racists is pretty annoying.

As a proud Southerner, I kinda enjoy the tantrums.

Wait.....I thought you were from Connecticut or Rhode Island or summat?

Maryland! The deepest darkest part of the south!

[Foo]

Defending the hijab because some woman may like it is like defending slavery because a slave liked it.

There is coercion at play.

coerce the coerced, foo. oppress the oppressed.

Just like prostitution, you have to look beyond the moment it happens and into all the coercion and abuse that leads up to the act.