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Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:God damnit all, we're in the sports section, what's he done for any team?
Took the 49ers to a Super Bowl plus another deep playoff run? Elway wanted him just a couple years ago. The NFL won't take him back after the protests, but he's definitely productive enough to be in the league. That's never been in question.
Productive enough to backup Blaine Gabbert? Lol. He was benched before the protests.
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Reign in Blood wrote:
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Foo wrote:Is Nike gonna make the Pig Cop socks? I am sure they will sell huge among their idiot demographic.
The Pig Cop socks really hurt his message. Not cool at all. But he did seek the help of military personnel to see how he can protest and still respect officers and law enforcement. Pig socks were immature.....admitting a mistake is what people should do.
Sorry, he got caught telling the truth about how he really feels. You are telling me a lot if those people he sought the "help" from did not tell him to stand during the anthem and use his fame to speak up about injustice in other ways? I call bullshit.
You've said you think cops are dicks. Not sure where "pigs" and "dicks" measure on a disrespect scale, but your outrage is goofy and forced.
Yet, I stand. Some cops being dicks and parts of the system being rigged does not trigger me to disrespect those who have died to defend all that we have and all that is good.

We stand in unity. If we all sat in every protest we have, no one would be standing. Division over the 1% of things we disagree on rather than unity over the 99% we agree on would rule. We do not stand in agreement that we have reached perfection. We stand in agreement that where ever we go, it will be together and to respect the sacrifices of those who made it all possible.
So the difference is you uphold a symbolic gesture that has no tangible effect on the real world. Okay?
I stand because in that moment, it is not about me. And our unity has had quite a tangible effect in shaping the world. America's chief export has been culture.
Sorry, just don't care much about symbolic gestures. I care about action. Results. Things you can measure.

Kaep's protest has probably been the most useful thing America has gotten out of the anthem in quite a while. It forced conversations people desperately wanted to avoid, and clearly still want to avoid given the way they shape the conversation as "protesting the anthem" rather than "protesting police brutality". A lot more interesting than people scurrying to get beers and hot dogs before kickoff. Really, we shouldn't even have the anthem at these events. It's goofy and the military ends up footing the bill. What a waste.
Lol. If you didn't care about symbolic gestures you wouldn't be rooting for Kaepernick to bury the NFL over kneeling for some "symbolic gesture".
Forcing conversations that make Americans uncomfortable, inspiring athletes to take active roles in their communities and lobby for political changes. Tangible.
And the effect of religion is not tangible? And ain't nothing got more symbolic gestures. You kneel in church too, but not to disrespect. Usually to blow the priest, I know, but still.
Nah, I'll buy the effects of religion. Can change individual lives, can inspire charitable efforts. That's all great. But see, that's all rooted in people doing non-symbolic things in the real world, inspired by their faith. You're not going to pray away problems that need to be dealt with through policy change though, and similarly, you're not going to stand up and help veterans/current military personnel.
So using a common church activity like kneeling is doing that. I'm not gonna pray away anything but Kaep kneeling and sitting on his ass no doing shit is the tits. Got it.
Define "not doing shit".
Like J said, can the motherfucker even jog anymore?
Who cares if he can't play? I have no doubt he can, but he clearly is done playing ball and has embraced his new path. Nike even gave him a bag for it, so good for him.
ORLY? An athlete that hasn't done a fucking thing for any team. The new reality, getting praised for doing jack shit for what you work for.
Did you sleep through 2012-2013? The 49ers didn't, they paid him 54 million to stick around after that.
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I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.

Also, I can't wait for his trial where they try to make the case he has been blackballed while the NFL shows how teams showed interest and his contract demands were the real reason why he was not signed.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:God damnit all, we're in the sports section, what's he done for any team?
Took the 49ers to a Super Bowl plus another deep playoff run? Elway wanted him just a couple years ago. The NFL won't take him back after the protests, but he's definitely productive enough to be in the league. That's never been in question.
Productive enough to backup Blaine Gabbert? Lol. He was benched before the protests.
Right. Had a shoulder issue in 2015 that sidelined him for almost a year while Chip installed his new system. Then, when Kaepernick got healthy and played he vastly outproduced Gabbert.
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Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:Is Nike gonna make the Pig Cop socks? I am sure they will sell huge among their idiot demographic.
The Pig Cop socks really hurt his message. Not cool at all. But he did seek the help of military personnel to see how he can protest and still respect officers and law enforcement. Pig socks were immature.....admitting a mistake is what people should do.
Sorry, he got caught telling the truth about how he really feels. You are telling me a lot if those people he sought the "help" from did not tell him to stand during the anthem and use his fame to speak up about injustice in other ways? I call bullshit.
You've said you think cops are dicks. Not sure where "pigs" and "dicks" measure on a disrespect scale, but your outrage is goofy and forced.
Yet, I stand. Some cops being dicks and parts of the system being rigged does not trigger me to disrespect those who have died to defend all that we have and all that is good.

We stand in unity. If we all sat in every protest we have, no one would be standing. Division over the 1% of things we disagree on rather than unity over the 99% we agree on would rule. We do not stand in agreement that we have reached perfection. We stand in agreement that where ever we go, it will be together and to respect the sacrifices of those who made it all possible.
So the difference is you uphold a symbolic gesture that has no tangible effect on the real world. Okay?
I stand because in that moment, it is not about me. And our unity has had quite a tangible effect in shaping the world. America's chief export has been culture.
Sorry, just don't care much about symbolic gestures. I care about action. Results. Things you can measure.

Kaep's protest has probably been the most useful thing America has gotten out of the anthem in quite a while. It forced conversations people desperately wanted to avoid, and clearly still want to avoid given the way they shape the conversation as "protesting the anthem" rather than "protesting police brutality". A lot more interesting than people scurrying to get beers and hot dogs before kickoff. Really, we shouldn't even have the anthem at these events. It's goofy and the military ends up footing the bill. What a waste.
Lol. If you didn't care about symbolic gestures you wouldn't be rooting for Kaepernick to bury the NFL over kneeling for some "symbolic gesture".
Forcing conversations that make Americans uncomfortable, inspiring athletes to take active roles in their communities and lobby for political changes. Tangible.
And the effect of religion is not tangible? And ain't nothing got more symbolic gestures. You kneel in church too, but not to disrespect. Usually to blow the priest, I know, but still.
Nah, I'll buy the effects of religion. Can change individual lives, can inspire charitable efforts. That's all great. But see, that's all rooted in people doing non-symbolic things in the real world, inspired by their faith. You're not going to pray away problems that need to be dealt with through policy change though, and similarly, you're not going to stand up and help veterans/current military personnel.
So using a common church activity like kneeling is doing that. I'm not gonna pray away anything but Kaep kneeling and sitting on his ass no doing shit is the tits. Got it.
Define "not doing shit".
Like J said, can the motherfucker even jog anymore?
Who cares if he can't play? I have no doubt he can, but he clearly is done playing ball and has embraced his new path. Nike even gave him a bag for it, so good for him.
ORLY? An athlete that hasn't done a fucking thing for any team. The new reality, getting praised for doing jack shit for what you work for.
Did you sleep through 2012-2013? The 49ers didn't, they paid him 54 million to stick around after that.
Did they get a ring from his dumbass? No, didn't think so!
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Foo wrote:I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.
Agreed. I'm reminded of the crowd in Buffalo who drowned out the national anthem to boo the players.
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Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
Foo wrote:Is Nike gonna make the Pig Cop socks? I am sure they will sell huge among their idiot demographic.
The Pig Cop socks really hurt his message. Not cool at all. But he did seek the help of military personnel to see how he can protest and still respect officers and law enforcement. Pig socks were immature.....admitting a mistake is what people should do.
Sorry, he got caught telling the truth about how he really feels. You are telling me a lot if those people he sought the "help" from did not tell him to stand during the anthem and use his fame to speak up about injustice in other ways? I call bullshit.
You've said you think cops are dicks. Not sure where "pigs" and "dicks" measure on a disrespect scale, but your outrage is goofy and forced.
Yet, I stand. Some cops being dicks and parts of the system being rigged does not trigger me to disrespect those who have died to defend all that we have and all that is good.

We stand in unity. If we all sat in every protest we have, no one would be standing. Division over the 1% of things we disagree on rather than unity over the 99% we agree on would rule. We do not stand in agreement that we have reached perfection. We stand in agreement that where ever we go, it will be together and to respect the sacrifices of those who made it all possible.
So the difference is you uphold a symbolic gesture that has no tangible effect on the real world. Okay?
I stand because in that moment, it is not about me. And our unity has had quite a tangible effect in shaping the world. America's chief export has been culture.
Sorry, just don't care much about symbolic gestures. I care about action. Results. Things you can measure.

Kaep's protest has probably been the most useful thing America has gotten out of the anthem in quite a while. It forced conversations people desperately wanted to avoid, and clearly still want to avoid given the way they shape the conversation as "protesting the anthem" rather than "protesting police brutality". A lot more interesting than people scurrying to get beers and hot dogs before kickoff. Really, we shouldn't even have the anthem at these events. It's goofy and the military ends up footing the bill. What a waste.
Lol. If you didn't care about symbolic gestures you wouldn't be rooting for Kaepernick to bury the NFL over kneeling for some "symbolic gesture".
Forcing conversations that make Americans uncomfortable, inspiring athletes to take active roles in their communities and lobby for political changes. Tangible.
And the effect of religion is not tangible? And ain't nothing got more symbolic gestures. You kneel in church too, but not to disrespect. Usually to blow the priest, I know, but still.
Nah, I'll buy the effects of religion. Can change individual lives, can inspire charitable efforts. That's all great. But see, that's all rooted in people doing non-symbolic things in the real world, inspired by their faith. You're not going to pray away problems that need to be dealt with through policy change though, and similarly, you're not going to stand up and help veterans/current military personnel.
So using a common church activity like kneeling is doing that. I'm not gonna pray away anything but Kaep kneeling and sitting on his ass no doing shit is the tits. Got it.
Define "not doing shit".
Like J said, can the motherfucker even jog anymore?
Who cares if he can't play? I have no doubt he can, but he clearly is done playing ball and has embraced his new path. Nike even gave him a bag for it, so good for him.
ORLY? An athlete that hasn't done a fucking thing for any team. The new reality, getting praised for doing jack shit for what you work for.
Did you sleep through 2012-2013? The 49ers didn't, they paid him 54 million to stick around after that.
Did they get a ring from his dumbass? No, didn't think so!
Are you actively following your nonsense to its logical conclusion or just taking it as it comes?
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Foo wrote:I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.

Also, I can't wait for his trial where they try to make the case he has been blackballed while the NFL shows how teams showed interest and his contract demands were the real reason why he was not signed.
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Foo wrote:I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.

Also, I can't wait for his trial where they try to make the case he has been blackballed while the NFL shows how teams showed interest and his contract demands were the real reason why he was not signed.
I know the NFL has always been a bastion of credibility and a sure winner in court, but let's maybe wait until this plays out before getting our jollies off. If you're right, you can fanboy it up for the shield in the future.
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O.J. got away with murder because he is black. Not farfetched to think Kaep wins some nonsense here.
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Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.

Also, I can't wait for his trial where they try to make the case he has been blackballed while the NFL shows how teams showed interest and his contract demands were the real reason why he was not signed.
I know the NFL has always been a bastion of credibility and a sure winner in court, but let's maybe wait until this plays out before getting our jollies off. If you're right, you can fanboy it up for the shield in the future.
Not fanboying anything. Just pointing out the absurdity of suing for blackballing while you make it known you will only play with certain conditions.
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Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:I feel like the best part of the protests is that the morons self-identify for you.

Also, I can't wait for his trial where they try to make the case he has been blackballed while the NFL shows how teams showed interest and his contract demands were the real reason why he was not signed.
I know the NFL has always been a bastion of credibility and a sure winner in court, but let's maybe wait until this plays out before getting our jollies off. If you're right, you can fanboy it up for the shield in the future.
Not fanboying anything. Just pointing out the absurdity of suing for blackballing while you make it known you will only play with certain conditions.
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Jason wrote:O.J. got away with murder because he is black. Not farfetched to think Kaep wins some nonsense here.
Because if there is one thing that statistics bear out, it’s how lenient your justice system is on black people.
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I think the protests have done a lot of good for the communities affected and to give voice to the silent masses. Good for Nike that they recognized that.
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showa58taro wrote:
Jason wrote:O.J. got away with murder because he is black. Not farfetched to think Kaep wins some nonsense here.
Because if there is one thing that statistics bear out, it’s how lenient your justice system is on black people.
6% of men in America are black. More than 50% of the murder rate is committed by black people.

But it's the justice system's fault for putting them all in prison.
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Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
Jason wrote:O.J. got away with murder because he is black. Not farfetched to think Kaep wins some nonsense here.
Because if there is one thing that statistics bear out, it’s how lenient your justice system is on black people.
6% of men in America are black. More than 50% of the murder rate is committed by black people.

But it's the justice system's fault for putting them all in prison.
You’re implying they are less likely to get charged since they’re black, not me.
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I'm implying there is no collusion against blacks like the left seems to think there is.
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Jason wrote:I'm implying there is no collusion against blacks like the left seems to think there is.
No. That’s not what you said.
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Ravens were all set to trade Norwegian rookie kicker Vedvik until they found him on a Baltimore st. With his head and teeth kicked in. Way to shine Baltimore :|
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Holy hell. That’s fucked up.
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