Chris Pine just doesn't do it for me, so how could it be a guys-have-to-stick-together thing? How in the hell do you interpret my view of modern day feminism is what I want to know...zombie wrote:unless this some kind of weird "guys have to stick together" thing, i think it's more than fair to not find chris pine to work for you, as an actor.Jason wrote:Nah, I've just never been a fan of his.zombie wrote:good to hear. although i don't recall anything offensive about pine in the film. do you like him in general though?Jason wrote:I dug Wonder Woman. Chris Pine is the only one who annoyed me in that movie. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?zombie wrote:jason would almost certainly (and probably has before) describe wonder woman as heavy handed the way you're using it. do you find that to be the case?
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you kept on with the ironic thing, so i didn't know what you were getting at. sorry.Jason wrote:Chris Pine just doesn't do it for me, so how could it be a guys-have-to-stick-together thing? How in the hell do you interpret my view of modern day feminism is what I want to know...zombie wrote:unless this some kind of weird "guys have to stick together" thing, i think it's more than fair to not find chris pine to work for you, as an actor.Jason wrote:Nah, I've just never been a fan of his.zombie wrote:good to hear. although i don't recall anything offensive about pine in the film. do you like him in general though?Jason wrote:I dug Wonder Woman. Chris Pine is the only one who annoyed me in that movie. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?zombie wrote:jason would almost certainly (and probably has before) describe wonder woman as heavy handed the way you're using it. do you find that to be the case?
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tell me what your view is of modern feminism, if you like. you've mentioned ww as having liberal bias, but that was before you'd actually seen it, if i recall. so things seem to have changed.
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Don't think I ever said that about Wonder Woman. Definitely said that about Atomic Blonde, though.zombie wrote:you kept on with the ironic thing, so i didn't know what you were getting at. sorry.Jason wrote:Chris Pine just doesn't do it for me, so how could it be a guys-have-to-stick-together thing? How in the hell do you interpret my view of modern day feminism is what I want to know...zombie wrote:unless this some kind of weird "guys have to stick together" thing, i think it's more than fair to not find chris pine to work for you, as an actor.Jason wrote:Nah, I've just never been a fan of his.zombie wrote:good to hear. although i don't recall anything offensive about pine in the film. do you like him in general though?Jason wrote:I dug Wonder Woman. Chris Pine is the only one who annoyed me in that movie. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?zombie wrote:jason would almost certainly (and probably has before) describe wonder woman as heavy handed the way you're using it. do you find that to be the case?
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tell me what your view is of modern feminism, if you like. you've mentioned ww as having liberal bias, but that was before you'd actually seen it, if i recall. so things seem to have changed.
Wonder Woman did a great job of inspiring young girls without subtle jabs painting white males out to be the root of all evil. No politics involved, and Gal Gadot is a good representative of Wonder Woman, on or off camera.
There was a time when the feminist motto was "I am woman, hear me roar!", now it's "I am woman, I earn less than men... who are all terrible scumbag pigs, btw."
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you definitely went a lot more heavily on atomic blonde, with the silly video of the "change my mind" guy bitching. (i'm blanking on his name right now) but there was a little bit at wonder woman too. but like i said that seems to have changed with seeing the film.Jason wrote:Don't think I ever said that about Wonder Woman. Definitely said that about Atomic Blonde, though.zombie wrote:you kept on with the ironic thing, so i didn't know what you were getting at. sorry.Jason wrote:Chris Pine just doesn't do it for me, so how could it be a guys-have-to-stick-together thing? How in the hell do you interpret my view of modern day feminism is what I want to know...zombie wrote:unless this some kind of weird "guys have to stick together" thing, i think it's more than fair to not find chris pine to work for you, as an actor.Jason wrote:Nah, I've just never been a fan of his.zombie wrote:good to hear. although i don't recall anything offensive about pine in the film. do you like him in general though?Jason wrote:I dug Wonder Woman. Chris Pine is the only one who annoyed me in that movie. Isn't it ironic, don't ya think?zombie wrote:jason would almost certainly (and probably has before) describe wonder woman as heavy handed the way you're using it. do you find that to be the case?
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tell me what your view is of modern feminism, if you like. you've mentioned ww as having liberal bias, but that was before you'd actually seen it, if i recall. so things seem to have changed.
Wonder Woman did a great job of inspiring young girls without subtle jabs painting white males out to be the root of all evil. No politics involved, and Gal Gadot is a good representative of Wonder Woman, on or off camera.
There was a time when the feminist motto was "I am woman, hear me roar!", now it's "I am woman, I earn less than men... who are all terrible scumbag pigs, btw."
yeah, there are a lot of vocal feminists who are anti-male. that kind of shit sucks.
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steven crowder, that's the guy.
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That was a fun, tongue-in-cheek video that highlights how goof-ily unrealistic that movie is.zombie wrote:you definitely went a lot more heavily on atomic blonde, with the silly video of the "change my mind" guy bitching. (i'm blanking on his name right now) but there was a little bit at wonder woman too. but like i said that seems to have changed with seeing the film.
yeah, there are a lot of vocal feminists who are anti-male. that kind of shit sucks.
The only thing negative I may have said about Wonder Woman as far as feminism goes is that they are capitalizing on a strong female lead while people whine about this phony inequality for women in the U.S. What I do specifically recall saying about Wonder Woman before it came out was when I highlighted feminists whining about how attractive Wonder Woman is and shaming her for promoting weight-loss protein bars. Which was hilarious.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/i-cant-help-but ... 1794982460
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he hadn't seen the film, when he did that video, based on what he was bitching about. *shrug* atomic blonde was awesome.and yeah, it's unrealistic in the same way that john wick is unrealistic.Jason wrote:That was a fun, tongue-in-cheek video that highlights how goof-ily unrealistic that movie is.zombie wrote:you definitely went a lot more heavily on atomic blonde, with the silly video of the "change my mind" guy bitching. (i'm blanking on his name right now) but there was a little bit at wonder woman too. but like i said that seems to have changed with seeing the film.
yeah, there are a lot of vocal feminists who are anti-male. that kind of shit sucks.
The only thing negative I may have said about Wonder Woman as far as feminism goes is that they are capitalizing on a strong female lead while people whine about this phony inequality for women in the U.S. What I do specifically recall saying about Wonder Woman before it came out was when I highlighted feminists whining about how attractive Wonder Woman is and shaming her for promoting weight-loss protein bars. Which was hilarious.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/i-cant-help-but ... 1794982460
it was about liberal bias, not specifically about feminism. but i do remember that stuff about people bitching about wonder woman not having hairy pits. that was dumb.
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zombie wrote:atomic blonde was awesome.and yeah, it's unrealistic in the same way that john wick is unrealistic.Jason wrote:That was a fun, tongue-in-cheek video that highlights how goof-ily unrealistic that movie is.zombie wrote:you definitely went a lot more heavily on atomic blonde, with the silly video of the "change my mind" guy bitching. (i'm blanking on his name right now) but there was a little bit at wonder woman too. but like i said that seems to have changed with seeing the film.
yeah, there are a lot of vocal feminists who are anti-male. that kind of shit sucks.
The only thing negative I may have said about Wonder Woman as far as feminism goes is that they are capitalizing on a strong female lead while people whine about this phony inequality for women in the U.S. What I do specifically recall saying about Wonder Woman before it came out was when I highlighted feminists whining about how attractive Wonder Woman is and shaming her for promoting weight-loss protein bars. Which was hilarious.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/i-cant-help-but ... 1794982460
it was about liberal bias, not specifically about feminism. but i do remember that stuff about people bitching about wonder woman not having hairy pits. that was dumb.
If you kill my dog, I become John Wick.
If you can find that quote I'd be more than happy to eat my words and say my interpretation was wrong at the time, but I just flat out don't remember ever bashing Wonder Woman.
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Jason wrote:zombie wrote:atomic blonde was awesome.and yeah, it's unrealistic in the same way that john wick is unrealistic.Jason wrote:That was a fun, tongue-in-cheek video that highlights how goof-ily unrealistic that movie is.zombie wrote:you definitely went a lot more heavily on atomic blonde, with the silly video of the "change my mind" guy bitching. (i'm blanking on his name right now) but there was a little bit at wonder woman too. but like i said that seems to have changed with seeing the film.
yeah, there are a lot of vocal feminists who are anti-male. that kind of shit sucks.
The only thing negative I may have said about Wonder Woman as far as feminism goes is that they are capitalizing on a strong female lead while people whine about this phony inequality for women in the U.S. What I do specifically recall saying about Wonder Woman before it came out was when I highlighted feminists whining about how attractive Wonder Woman is and shaming her for promoting weight-loss protein bars. Which was hilarious.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/i-cant-help-but ... 1794982460
it was about liberal bias, not specifically about feminism. but i do remember that stuff about people bitching about wonder woman not having hairy pits. that was dumb.
If you kill my dog, I become John Wick.
If you can find that quote I'd be more than happy to eat my words and say my interpretation was wrong at the time, but I just flat out don't remember ever bashing Wonder Woman.
http://www.horrormoviefans.com/forums/p ... =4&p=55558
have you seen atomic blonde? is this just a women shouldn't play action heroes thing?
don't worry about it. it's best forgotten, if it doesn't apply anymore.
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Of course it is. Don't you know that I hate the Terminator movies because of that damn Sarah Connor being awesome?zombie wrote:have you seen atomic blonde? is this just a women shouldn't play action heroes thing?
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well, then you need to explain it to me. i guess terminator 2 had a stronger male along with her, is the main difference between the two characters within their films.Jason wrote:Of course it is. Don't you know that I hate the Terminator movies because of that damn Sarah Connor being awesome?zombie wrote:have you seen atomic blonde? is this just a women shouldn't play action heroes thing?
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It is the agenda that I don't support. Sarah Connor being a badass in Terminator wasn't done as an attack on men with the interjection of identity politics.zombie wrote:well, then you need to explain it to me. i guess terminator 2 had a stronger male along with her, is the man difference between the two characters within their films.Jason wrote:Of course it is. Don't you know that I hate the Terminator movies because of that damn Sarah Connor being awesome?zombie wrote:have you seen atomic blonde? is this just a women shouldn't play action heroes thing?
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hmm.. okay. we have different take aways from atomic blonde, then. such is art.Jason wrote:It is the agenda that I don't support. Sarah Connor being a badass in Terminator wasn't done as an attack on men with the interjection of identity politics.zombie wrote:well, then you need to explain it to me. i guess terminator 2 had a stronger male along with her, is the man difference between the two characters within their films.Jason wrote:Of course it is. Don't you know that I hate the Terminator movies because of that damn Sarah Connor being awesome?zombie wrote:have you seen atomic blonde? is this just a women shouldn't play action heroes thing?
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watched it again, now, cause you made me question if i was just missing something. so aside from kicking a lot of ass unrealistically, there is a line about "am i your bitch now?", which i guess if you want to find something to point to as feminist agenda, that's the thing. but meh.