November 15th 2019

[Tiggnutz]

I think social media is what is fueling all of these shootings more than any other thing. Just my take I'm glad it wasn't around when I came up.

It's ramped it up for sure. The kids who already feel shitty and inadequate at school bring it home with them on their phones.

no escape it must be pure hell

[Headhunter]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

[Jason]

Here comes the gun debate.

[zombie]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

[Headhunter]

We can pretend the guns don't matter if you have another explanation for why this epidemic that rarely occurs anywhere outside the U.S, happens so frequently here.

[Headhunter]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

[Jason]

We can pretend the guns don't matter if you have another explanation for why this epidemic that rarely occurs anywhere outside the U.S, happens so frequently here.

The guns do matter. But this goes back to my point earlier. 99.99% of people should not be punished because the 0.01% fuck it up for everyone else. The kid is a scumbag and it's in all likelihood that his parents are to blame.

[zombie]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

[Headhunter]

We can pretend the guns don't matter if you have another explanation for why this epidemic that rarely occurs anywhere outside the U.S, happens so frequently here.

The guns do matter. But this goes back to my point earlier. 99.99% of people should not be punished because the 0.01% fuck it up for everyone else. The kid is a scumbag and it's in all likelihood that his parents are to blame.

Nobody is being punished except the people who shouldn't own guns.

[Headhunter]

Sad world we live in where the inconvenience of jumping through some extra hoops outweighs cutting down on preventable tragedies. Are we that selfish?

[Headhunter]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

[zombie]

Sad world we live in where the inconvenience of jumping through some extra hoops outweighs cutting down on preventable tragedies. Are we that selfish?

we should probably bow to the gun control crowd, if only so that we can recognize that that won't end the talk of restricting things to curb some kind of violence or undesirable behavior.

[zombie]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

i don't have to like it, but let's do it. let's regulate guns or restrict guns. whatever satisfies. then we can move on to the next thing that will cut down on tragedies.

[Headhunter]

Sad world we live in where the inconvenience of jumping through some extra hoops outweighs cutting down on preventable tragedies. Are we that selfish?

we should probably bow to the gun control crowd, if only so that we can recognize that that won't end the talk of restricting things to curb some kind of violence or undesirable behavior.

It's more like "we should probably do everything possible to stop preventable tragedies from happening". You say we shouldn't do anything about guns even though it would save lives, so how would you make up the deficit of lives you didn't save by not passing common sense gun reforms?

[zombie]

Sad world we live in where the inconvenience of jumping through some extra hoops outweighs cutting down on preventable tragedies. Are we that selfish?

we should probably bow to the gun control crowd, if only so that we can recognize that that won't end the talk of restricting things to curb some kind of violence or undesirable behavior.

It's more like "we should probably do everything possible to stop preventable tragedies from happening". You say we shouldn't do anything about guns even though it would save lives, so how would you make up the deficit of lives you didn't save by not passing common sense gun reforms?

i am for gun regulation, as it relates to people who are unstable or show signs of violence toward others.

everyone's "common sense" is different. "everything possible", in regard to fire arms, would be banning their sale and legal possession.

[Headhunter]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

i don't have to like it, but let's do it. let's regulate guns or restrict guns. whatever satisfies. then we can move on to the next thing that will cut down on tragedies.

Is that supposed to be bad, working to find solutions to cut down on tragedies? If there's something else you can do that cut the deaths down even further, that's even better. This is how problem solving works. It's a lot more productive than "nothing can be done so don't try".

[zombie]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

i don't have to like it, but let's do it. let's regulate guns or restrict guns. whatever satisfies. then we can move on to the next thing that will cut down on tragedies.

Is that supposed to be bad, working to find solutions to cut down on tragedies? If there's something else you can do that cut the deaths down even further, that's even better. This is how problem solving works. It's a lot more productive than "nothing can be done so don't try".

it depends on your point of view. comic books were a dangerous influence on children. rock music needed to be regulated for our safety. now, it's video games. that will be the next thing after guns are handled.

it is funny how you always try to shame me into your position.

[Headhunter]

Sad world we live in where the inconvenience of jumping through some extra hoops outweighs cutting down on preventable tragedies. Are we that selfish?

we should probably bow to the gun control crowd, if only so that we can recognize that that won't end the talk of restricting things to curb some kind of violence or undesirable behavior.

It's more like "we should probably do everything possible to stop preventable tragedies from happening". You say we shouldn't do anything about guns even though it would save lives, so how would you make up the deficit of lives you didn't save by not passing common sense gun reforms?

i am for gun regulation, as it relates to people who are unstable or show signs of violence toward others.

everyone's "common sense" is different. "everything possible", in regard to fire arms, would be banning their sale and legal possession.

The "they want to take all our guns" straw man needs to die already. That bullshit straw man has been just used to keep the NRA machine rolling for years and you guys keep eating it up. It's unbelievable.

[Headhunter]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

i don't have to like it, but let's do it. let's regulate guns or restrict guns. whatever satisfies. then we can move on to the next thing that will cut down on tragedies.

Is that supposed to be bad, working to find solutions to cut down on tragedies? If there's something else you can do that cut the deaths down even further, that's even better. This is how problem solving works. It's a lot more productive than "nothing can be done so don't try".

it depends on your point of view. comic books were a dangerous influence on children. rock music needed to be regulated for our safety. now, it's video games. that will be the next thing after guns are handled.

it is funny how you always try to shame me into your position.

Would love to see someone walk into a school and try to kill a bunch of people with a comic book or video game disc. Not comparable.

[zombie]

Acting like death machines the can kill tons of people very quickly are irrelevant is a silly thing to do. The gun argument always gets dumbed down to a guns vs. mental health thing, but the "anti-gun" people also support mental health initiatives that Republicans always gut. Republicans' actual solutions to this stuff are for more God in schools.

it's still a way to avoid parental and local responsibility. but at least it's toward something that is designed to cause harm or death. regulate them. then restrict them. then ban them.... and then move onto the next thing that can be used to avoid personal responsibility.

It's a choice of some change vs. no change.

i like that we just had this whole discussion about parents taking responsibility... and now it's either do something about guns, or do nothing.

Well, you can implement common sense reforms that will cut down on tragedies, or you can not do that and have more tragedies than otherwise. I don't know what the hang-up on that idea is, it's a fact. They will happen less often. Obviously the parents taking responsibility is also important, but we can address multiple concerns at once.

i don't have to like it, but let's do it. let's regulate guns or restrict guns. whatever satisfies. then we can move on to the next thing that will cut down on tragedies.

Is that supposed to be bad, working to find solutions to cut down on tragedies? If there's something else you can do that cut the deaths down even further, that's even better. This is how problem solving works. It's a lot more productive than "nothing can be done so don't try".

it depends on your point of view. comic books were a dangerous influence on children. rock music needed to be regulated for our safety. now, it's video games. that will be the next thing after guns are handled.

it is funny how you always try to shame me into your position.

Would love to see someone walk into a school and try to kill a bunch of people with a comic book or video game disc. Not comparable.

it isn't comparable. has that kept people from looking to those as *the problem*? will it keep them from looking back that way, when there aren't mass shootings anymore?