Random Political Comments

[Headhunter]

So I was kind of joking when I brought it up, but apparently he actually does own stock in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine. Lol.

So yeah. Always follow the money and always tune out the snake oil salesmen.

[Jason]

Or, give up and die because Trump is a big meanie and you don't want to give him the satisfaction of saving a life by spreading the word about the effectiveness of the drug.

[zombie]

Proven is not the word for this.

agreed. clinical tests are there for a reason. you need to take into account other things, beyond this random patient took it and looks to be on the mend.

Not patient, *patients. If doctors are swearing by this, fully endorsing it, and now reserving the supply for the very ill because they don't want to blow through the entire medical supply of the drug, it is clearly working at a wonderfully promising rate.

random patients. not patients in a controlled trial. if it works, awesome. it will be certified by the fda and used across the board. and the argument will be moot. but until we get there.....

[Jason]

people are scared. the president gave a suggestion. and thus a run on the drug. that is why the shelves were empty, in head's anecdote. we'll have to see what comes with this, ultimately. but make no mistake, this is playing with fire, until we actually know that it works across the board.

if it does work, then the coronavirus is over and beaten, and we don't have to worry about anyone's cuisine choices.

Doctors have to prescribe the drug. You can't just get it without a doctor's endorsement. It is flying off the shelves because it's working. Now is the time to step back and only prescribe it to patients who are very ill so we can avoid blowing through our supplies. That's how effective it is.

Until a new strain mutates that has a 50% kill rate. China needs to stop eating road kill. The fact we're living under quarantine in the middle of a pandemic because of China and you're not bothered by them continuing the ritual that caused it is bizarre. THIS is playing with fire.

i'm not going on national tv suggesting anything, or hell, even on twitter. i'm not giving any kind of advice one way or the other on any remotely large scale. i am not playing with fire.

i just see the history. eating bats has been linked to other viruses. we've beaten them. if you're right, we're beating the coronavirus. china is not the only one to eat bats or "road kill" either. so if that is indeed the cause and we haven't beaten the virus or if there is solid evidence to suggest that covid will mutate, do something about it worldwide, including china.

You're also not surrounded by a team of medical professionals. You think Trump just thunk up hydroxychloroquine the other day and decided to advise the rest of the medical world to look into it? If he did, it would make him an irrefutably educated genius of an orange man.

All the viruses are linked to China. Specifically the wet markets. Specifically in Wigan. Spanish Flu, bird flu, Sars, ebola... All linked to China's wet markets.

he didn't just recommend it to doctors or the medical world. that would have been cool. i wouldn't have even heard about it, really. either. let's don't make this about the person that gave the advice. but the advice given.

i question the validity of your second statement.

Again, the only people that can prescribe hydroxychloroquine are medical professionals. You can't just go out and buy it.

[Headhunter]

Zero evidence to suggest that the Spanish flu started in China, of course. A lot of origins have been suggested, including France and the US. The first recorded case was in Kansas for all that’s worth.

[zombie]

Again, the only people that can prescribe hydroxychloroquine are medical professionals. You can't just go out and buy it.

and there is a history of people pressuring doctors into prescribing things, is there not?

[Headhunter]

Proven is not the word for this.

agreed. clinical tests are there for a reason. you need to take into account other things, beyond this random patient took it and looks to be on the mend.

Not patient, *patients. If doctors are swearing by this, fully endorsing it, and now reserving the supply for the very ill because they don't want to blow through the entire medical supply of the drug, it is clearly working at a wonderfully promising rate.

random patients. not patients in a controlled trial. if it works, awesome. it will be certified by the fda and used across the board. and the argument will be moot. but until we get there.....

Yup. Let the process play out and if it really is the miracle drug, the process will bear that out. Which wouldn’t make Trump’s current TV peddling any less irresponsible. Serious crisis of leadership in this country right now.

[Jason]

Spanish Flu that killed 50 million Originated in China, Historians Say

https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.nation ... nce-health

[Headhunter]

Yes, that’s one of the theories. That it’s just a theory is even reflected in the subheading...

[Jason]

Proven is not the word for this.

agreed. clinical tests are there for a reason. you need to take into account other things, beyond this random patient took it and looks to be on the mend.

Not patient, *patients. If doctors are swearing by this, fully endorsing it, and now reserving the supply for the very ill because they don't want to blow through the entire medical supply of the drug, it is clearly working at a wonderfully promising rate.

random patients. not patients in a controlled trial. if it works, awesome. it will be certified by the fda and used across the board. and the argument will be moot. but until we get there.....

It's not impossible to get. Doctors all across the nation could prescribe it throughout the pandemic with a 100% success rate without the FDA ever getting off their asses.

[Jason]

Yes, that’s one of the theories. That it’s just a theory is even reflected in the subheading...

Not just a theory. It's an "all signs point to" situation.

"We are only slightly less certain that Spanish Flu came from China, but all the other flus, yeah, we're certain".

If I have a dog and I come home to him hiding in the corner with trash strewn about the house, I'm fairly certain the dog is responsible.

[Headhunter]

No, not really. There isn’t nearly enough information available to get to that point and there has been plenty of scholarship making a compelling argument for both sides, much like the Kansas, UK and France theories.

[Jason]

Well, I certainly lean toward the serial flu spreaders being the pesky culprit in this one, too.

[showa58taro]

Proven is not the word for this.

agreed. clinical tests are there for a reason. you need to take into account other things, beyond this random patient took it and looks to be on the mend.

Indeed. To suggest anything else is a moral failing.

[Headhunter]

You can bitch about the Chinese until the cows come home, but it doesn’t matter. It’s here and it’s bad and everything that happens now that it’s here is the responsibility of the US government. The failure at the top cannot be ignored.

[showa58taro]

So I was kind of joking when I brought it up, but apparently he actually does own stock in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine. Lol.

So yeah. Always follow the money and always tune out the snake oil salesmen.

Colour me surprised.

[Jason]

You can bitch about the Chinese until the cows come home, but it doesn’t matter. It’s here and it’s bad and everything that happens now that it’s here is the responsibility of the US government. The failure at the top cannot be ignored.

Thank goodness for the border wall Trump is making that you're all so against. And thank goodness he ignored the WHO in January when they advised him not to suspend travel because Covid is not contagious.

100% blame: China, WHO (divvy it up to your liking!)
0% blame: Literally everything else

[Jason]

So I was kind of joking when I brought it up, but apparently he actually does own stock in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine. Lol.

So yeah. Always follow the money and always tune out the snake oil salesmen.

Colour me surprised.

Color me apathetic!

[Headhunter]

Yeah that border wall is really shutting the virus down. Lmao.

Awfully convenient that the US government isn’t responsible for how they respond to the crisis. Keep shaking your first at the Chinese though. That will do so much good while thousands of idiots pack churches and go to the beach.

[showa58taro]

So I was kind of joking when I brought it up, but apparently he actually does own stock in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine. Lol.

So yeah. Always follow the money and always tune out the snake oil salesmen.

Colour me surprised.

Color me apathetic!

Why the a- prefix?