Indeed. I feel horrible for the innocents who are potentially being harmed because of the cop's actions.zombie wrote:i just hope that you and i never have to face that "rightful wildfire" like some of the innocent citizens of minneapolis are right now. i guess i'll just have to leave it there.Jigsaw wrote:
I don't disagree, but focus is hard to come by when there is a rightful wildfire of rage being spread, and obviously, there's no central group there telling people where to riot/loot and where not too. If there was, I doubt it'd be successful, but then the blame goes on the society for causing that situation to begin with and not the people taking action in the only way they know how, even if it isn't productive to their cause.
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Even the black cops who kill white men and women?Jigsaw wrote:Pretty sure the real animals are the cops who kill people because they can. Fuck all of them.
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But you support the people harming them.Jigsaw wrote:Indeed. I feel horrible for the innocents who are potentially being harmed because of the cop's actions.zombie wrote:i just hope that you and i never have to face that "rightful wildfire" like some of the innocent citizens of minneapolis are right now. i guess i'll just have to leave it there.Jigsaw wrote:
I don't disagree, but focus is hard to come by when there is a rightful wildfire of rage being spread, and obviously, there's no central group there telling people where to riot/loot and where not too. If there was, I doubt it'd be successful, but then the blame goes on the society for causing that situation to begin with and not the people taking action in the only way they know how, even if it isn't productive to their cause.
Logic.
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This Twitter thread is incredibly funny.Jmac Attack wrote:Better not take a knee ! Dont be all uppity! It's ok when white people riot after an Ohio State football game though.
https://twitter.com/brokeymcpoverty/sta ... 08416?s=21
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Yes.Jason wrote:Even the black cops who kill white men and women?Jigsaw wrote:Pretty sure the real animals are the cops who kill people because they can. Fuck all of them.
I don't know what the story is behind that one, but if it was a cop, and he killed people unnecessary, then definitely fuck him.
Sorry if I wasn't clear - all cops, no matter what race or gender.
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They'll be harmed regardless if the underlying problems aren't fixed.Jason wrote:But you support the people harming them.Jigsaw wrote:Indeed. I feel horrible for the innocents who are potentially being harmed because of the cop's actions.zombie wrote:i just hope that you and i never have to face that "rightful wildfire" like some of the innocent citizens of minneapolis are right now. i guess i'll just have to leave it there.Jigsaw wrote:
I don't disagree, but focus is hard to come by when there is a rightful wildfire of rage being spread, and obviously, there's no central group there telling people where to riot/loot and where not too. If there was, I doubt it'd be successful, but then the blame goes on the society for causing that situation to begin with and not the people taking action in the only way they know how, even if it isn't productive to their cause.
Logic.
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Riots move the wheels of history.Jigsaw wrote:I stand with the protests, rioters, and looters. I'll always stand with them if they're dealing with an unjust system, which they clearly are. I don't see how that's a problem, and I feel no regret at all for my position.
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Your extreme takes are pretty over the top.Jigsaw wrote:They'll be harmed regardless if the underlying problems aren't fixed.Jason wrote:But you support the people harming them.Jigsaw wrote:Indeed. I feel horrible for the innocents who are potentially being harmed because of the cop's actions.zombie wrote:i just hope that you and i never have to face that "rightful wildfire" like some of the innocent citizens of minneapolis are right now. i guess i'll just have to leave it there.Jigsaw wrote:
I don't disagree, but focus is hard to come by when there is a rightful wildfire of rage being spread, and obviously, there's no central group there telling people where to riot/loot and where not too. If there was, I doubt it'd be successful, but then the blame goes on the society for causing that situation to begin with and not the people taking action in the only way they know how, even if it isn't productive to their cause.
Logic.
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and regardless of your position you can agree with that. it's a given. it's not a position or argument, it's more just the way it is.Headhunter wrote:Riots move the wheels of history.Jigsaw wrote:I stand with the protests, rioters, and looters. I'll always stand with them if they're dealing with an unjust system, which they clearly are. I don't see how that's a problem, and I feel no regret at all for my position.
war moves the wheels of history. terrorism moves the wheels of history. not a position or justification. just the way it is. *shrug*
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If we’re going with the extremely liberal definition of terrorism, how much of the prelude to the Revolutionary War could be considered terrorism? Targeted property destruction in cities, tar-and-feathering Tories etc.zombie wrote:and regardless of your position you can agree with that. it's a given. it's not a position or argument, it's more just the way it is.Headhunter wrote:Riots move the wheels of history.Jigsaw wrote:I stand with the protests, rioters, and looters. I'll always stand with them if they're dealing with an unjust system, which they clearly are. I don't see how that's a problem, and I feel no regret at all for my position.
war moves the wheels of history. terrorism moves the wheels of history. not a position or justification. just the way it is. *shrug*
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it could be considered terrorism. it depends on your perspective. i'm not telling you how to define terrorism.Headhunter wrote:If we’re going with the extremely liberal definition of terrorism, how much of the prelude to the Revolutionary War could be considered terrorism? Targeted property destruction in cities, tar-and-feathering Tories etc.zombie wrote:and regardless of your position you can agree with that. it's a given. it's not a position or argument, it's more just the way it is.Headhunter wrote:Riots move the wheels of history.Jigsaw wrote:I stand with the protests, rioters, and looters. I'll always stand with them if they're dealing with an unjust system, which they clearly are. I don't see how that's a problem, and I feel no regret at all for my position.
war moves the wheels of history. terrorism moves the wheels of history. not a position or justification. just the way it is. *shrug*
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I’m asking for your perspective.zombie wrote:it could be considered terrorism. it depends on your perspective. i'm not telling you how to define terrorism.Headhunter wrote:If we’re going with the extremely liberal definition of terrorism, how much of the prelude to the Revolutionary War could be considered terrorism? Targeted property destruction in cities, tar-and-feathering Tories etc.zombie wrote:and regardless of your position you can agree with that. it's a given. it's not a position or argument, it's more just the way it is.Headhunter wrote:Riots move the wheels of history.Jigsaw wrote:I stand with the protests, rioters, and looters. I'll always stand with them if they're dealing with an unjust system, which they clearly are. I don't see how that's a problem, and I feel no regret at all for my position.
war moves the wheels of history. terrorism moves the wheels of history. not a position or justification. just the way it is. *shrug*
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this isn't definitive, but i think that carrying out a violent act on an organized, large scale that is done with some sort of rebellion or grievance in mind could be considered a form of terrorism. this obviously does not include police or military action. that is something else entirely.Headhunter wrote: I’m asking for your perspective.
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I find what police and military do far, far worse than those commonly labeled "terrorists." It's all the worse because so many people actually support the military and the police despite the atrocity and commonplace nature of their crimes.zombie wrote:this isn't definitive, but i think that carrying out a violent act on an organized, large scale that is done with some sort of rebellion or grievance in mind could be considered a form of terrorism. this obviously does not include police or military action. that is something else entirely.Headhunter wrote: I’m asking for your perspective.
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Well, as fun as this is, I do have to watch Eden Lake, so you all have fun and remember, cops are terrible people.
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i wasn't making a judgment. abuse of police or military power/authority is wrong.Jigsaw wrote:I find what police and military do far, far worse than those commonly labeled "terrorists." It's all the worse because so many people actually support the military and the police despite the atrocity and commonplace nature of their crimes.zombie wrote:this isn't definitive, but i think that carrying out a violent act on an organized, large scale that is done with some sort of rebellion or grievance in mind could be considered a form of terrorism. this obviously does not include police or military action. that is something else entirely.Headhunter wrote: I’m asking for your perspective.
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eden lake is a great horror flick in my opinion. so tense and gut punchy in the end.Jigsaw wrote:Well, as fun as this is, I do have to watch Eden Lake, so you all have fun and remember, cops are terrible people.
people are terrible people.
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I can get behind that. I think some of the worst atrocities carried out under the “terrorism” umbrella just makes it such a loaded word. It’s a pretty wide spectrum.zombie wrote:this isn't definitive, but i think that carrying out a violent act on an organized, large scale that is done with some sort of rebellion or grievance in mind could be considered a form of terrorism. this obviously does not include police or military action. that is something else entirely.Headhunter wrote: I’m asking for your perspective.
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it is a loaded word, and i understand why.Headhunter wrote:I can get behind that. I think some of the worst atrocities carried out under the “terrorism” umbrella just makes it such a loaded word. It’s a pretty wide spectrum.zombie wrote:this isn't definitive, but i think that carrying out a violent act on an organized, large scale that is done with some sort of rebellion or grievance in mind could be considered a form of terrorism. this obviously does not include police or military action. that is something else entirely.Headhunter wrote: I’m asking for your perspective.
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It’s always going to be some awful stuff that moves the needle but I’m never going to hold the powerless fighting back to the same standard as the powerful crushing the powerless. I think that’s the scale to evaluate these things on.
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