April 6th 2021

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

[zombie]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

[zombie]

take the exorcist or cujo... the fear was not the child or the dog, but what they had become, demonstrated by the actions taken against the other characters and/or to their own bodies. the familiar made unfamiliar still counts in my mind.

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

[zombie]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

[zombie]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

Sounds like that's pissing all over our fine Slaughter/Fish out of Water films. Time to take out the trash. :twisted:

[zombie]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

Sounds like that's pissing all over our fine Slaughter/Fish out of Water films. Time to take out the trash. :twisted:

that is still our world. but maybe you're right.

on another note: i recently bought a serbian film... was that a mistake to do?

[Reign in Blood]

"the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror."

And with that, we know ships of all kinds, even spaceships. So when the unknown comes aboard and terrorizes it, we understand just fine. Just because it's floating in blackness and not in the blue sky or out to sea means it's 86ed?

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

Sounds like that's pissing all over our fine Slaughter/Fish out of Water films. Time to take out the trash. :twisted:

that is still our world. but maybe you're right.

on another note: i recently bought a serbian film... was that a mistake to do?

If you got it for cheap, no.

[zombie]

"the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror."

And with that, we know ships of all kinds, even spaceships. So when the unknown comes aboard and terrorizes it, we understand just fine. Just because it's floating in blackness and not in the blue sky or out to sea means it's 86ed?

as far as she categorizes horror films, yeah. mine is more broad.

[Reign in Blood]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

Sounds like that's pissing all over our fine Slaughter/Fish out of Water films. Time to take out the trash. :twisted:

that is still our world. but maybe you're right.

And the Sawyer house ain't no place I ever been or known, fuck that.

[zombie]

If you got it for cheap, no.

relative to what i've usually seen it go for, i got it cheap. hopefully i don't mind it like you seem to.

[zombie]

how she thinks of horror as a film genre is as valid as anyone else's point of view or categorization of some given films.

Until she starts spouting nothing but the #1 bullshit, which she did in abundance.

make your case, change her mind. that would be my approach. *shrug*

What does the unknown versus known have to do with it? The unknown, like space, or even something more simple like the Abyss is frightening because you just don't fucking know what is out there. Meanwhile, when a beloved parent, sibling, child, pet, etc. turns on you, that can be the most terrifying shit one could imagine.

could be argued that the action against you (as the protagonist) by a loved one, child, pet etc is the unfamiliar or unknown. no?

Fine, which then this broad says isn't horror.

mah, i don't agree with her view. but that's not it.

What is it then? If the unknown/unfamiliar count, then why doesn't space? AND it's still reality based because space is real and that we do transverse, it ain't middle earth.

well... space by her estimation is too far removed from what we know. it's not our world anymore. where she feels like horror is fear of the unfamiliar or unknown coming into our world. the unfamiliar and unknown coming into the world we know and understand basically seems to be how she categorizes horror. but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

Sounds like that's pissing all over our fine Slaughter/Fish out of Water films. Time to take out the trash. :twisted:

that is still our world. but maybe you're right.

And the Sawyer house ain't no place I ever been or known, fuck that.

the saw is family. and everyone knows family.

[Slaughterhouserock]

on another note: i recently bought a serbian film... was that a mistake to do?

I still say A Serbian Film gets a bad rap. It's fucked up for the sake of being fucked up, but it's well made, the plot makes sense(unlike 99% of "fucked up" horror films), and it has one of the most hilarious line deliveries since Shark Attack 3: Megalodon. Definitely worth it, though you'll probably only watch it once.

[Slaughterhouserock]

the saw is family. and everyone knows family.

I'll disagree, because I don't get family. And there are plenty of people with no family. It's not a universal concept.

but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

You mean like, what makes horror horror? Generally some sense of fear. Usually it's the characters in the film, not the audience, experiencing the fear, but still. A sense of unease, isolation, or dread. The unknown, to take from the crazy lady, is usually a good source for some of those emotions, but not the only basis for horror. Gore is pretty common these days, but is unnecessary. It's just an easy way to make people uncomfortable(and it looks cool if done right). That's about the most basic example I can give.

[zombie]

the saw is family. and everyone knows family.

I'll disagree, because I don't get family. And there are plenty of people with no family. It's not a universal concept.

but can we move more into the discussion of the elements and their categorization and away from defending or trashing her?

You mean like, what makes horror horror? Generally some sense of fear. Usually it's the characters in the film, not the audience, experiencing the fear, but still. A sense of unease, isolation, or dread. The unknown, to take from the crazy lady, is usually a good source for some of those emotions, but not the only basis for horror. Gore is pretty common these days, but is unnecessary. It's just an easy way to make people uncomfortable(and it looks cool if done right). That's about the most basic example I can give.

"know" and "get" don't have to be the same thing. i can be related to someone without relating to them.

yeah, i guess so. in basic terms. i see horror as something that intends to frighten or shock or disturb or otherwise get under the skin of the viewer. for me, it has as much to do with the characters and what they're going through, as it does with the viewer and their baggage. or the baggage of the culture they are a part of. it's like metal or punk rock in cinematic visual form, more or less.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

Hot damn, a 2nd page on a Tuesday random chat

I just voted "yes" and moved on from that silly twitter question lol

[showa58taro]

I guess the argument would be s scary science fiction vs horror. I think you could overcome that objection by just labeling it both.

I can see an argument for out on some instances such as Sphere or Event Horizon being a science fiction movie with real scary bits (bit of a stretch, but I can see how one crafts that argument) but you can counter that (in my view) with Hellraiser 4, Jason X, and Leprechaun 4. All just horror film and horror franchise installment in Space. No science really. These surely prove that horror in Space is a thing. I would also argue that the first ones I mentioned are horror personally.