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Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:17 pm
by Jmac Attack
Foo wrote:What would happen in Japan if a student were to disrespect and try to physically intimidate a school teacher?
Karate chop to the throat for the brat!

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:21 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
Why do inner city blacks shoot each other at a high rate? Could it be because the black family is in shambles and loving parents are replaced with violent rap culture?
why is the black family in shambles?

also, how many school shooters are black? if we are going to narrow this to one race or another, i want to make sure we're justified in doing that.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:23 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:As for violence in media, including video games and movies, it is a factor in desensitizing. If you are otherwise a happy and healthy person, you can handle it. Sadly, more and more cannot.

Dealing with the public for 25 years now, you see the changes and the broad array of issues.
otherwise? how about "if you are a happy and healthy person" period? you don't even have to be happy, necessarily. :P

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:25 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:What would happen in Japan if a student were to disrespect and try to physically intimidate a school teacher?
lack of respect for authority, may play a part too. i don't know.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:29 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do inner city blacks shoot each other at a high rate? Could it be because the black family is in shambles and loving parents are replaced with violent rap culture?
why is the black family in shambles?

also, how many school shooters are black? if we are going to narrow this to one race or another, i want to make sure we're justified in doing that.
Liberals destroyed the black family with welfare.

School shooters are not black because violent black people are gang bangers, and do not have the strong emotional connection with schools.

You know what the profile is for a school shooter?

- mainly white
- a disproportionately large number are first or 2nd generation immigrants
- have been on happy pills

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:34 pm
by Foo
Let me show a difference among our community. Many of us have a healthy relationship with horror. I tend to see the black comedy in much of it and empathize with the victim. I am also a docile person who does not fantasize about harming people.

Do you get the sense someone like Lucian saw it that way? Laz? etc.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:42 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do inner city blacks shoot each other at a high rate? Could it be because the black family is in shambles and loving parents are replaced with violent rap culture?
why is the black family in shambles?

also, how many school shooters are black? if we are going to narrow this to one race or another, i want to make sure we're justified in doing that.
Liberals destroyed the black family with welfare.

School shooters are not black because violent black people are gang bangers, and do not have the strong emotional connection with schools.

You know what the profile is for a school shooter?

- mainly white
- a disproportionately large number are first or 2nd generation immigrants
- have been on happy pills
liberals did not force the black family onto welfare. what was the reason that they turned to welfare? what circumstances enticed (or forced) them into it?

why are whites the majority?
legal or illegal immigrants? first or second generation from where?
how did the prescription of "happy pills" start? why did it start?

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:45 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:Let me show a difference among our community. Many of us have a healthy relationship with horror. I tend to see the black comedy in much of it and empathize with the victim. I am also a docile person who does not fantasize about harming people.

Do you get the sense someone like Lucian saw it that way? Laz? etc.
if it was really the fault of the movies, and not of the person, then wouldn't you and i not have a "healthy relationship with horror" as well?

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:06 pm
by Jason
What did Laz do?

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:11 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:What did Laz do?
just put up the vibe of a thug / jerk. unless foo has something else.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:27 pm
by Jason
He got mentioned in the same breath as Lucy so I thought I missed something. :p

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:29 pm
by zombie
well, both of them took a liking to the underworld movies, if memory serves. that's something. :P

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:41 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do you think society has become so accepting of divorce, single parents, etc.?

Is there any doubt the Florida shooter was not a toxic mic of everything I just described? Bad family, probably on pills, and probably obsessed with macabre and violence? Why do you think that is?
a lot of things probably. but i think a big part of the root is treating people like commodity or resource, as a culture.
Is that new? People have always been valued for their contributions.
valuing people for their work is not the same as treating someone like they owe you their work, like they are only worth what they can do for you.
Again, when has that ever not been the case? People have always hired each other for their labor and skills, and have been valued in the community as such. When has the lazy fuck ever been viewed in the same regard as the community's doctor or problem solver? Even in primitive times, intelligence and skills, and the ability to get things done were viewed as valuable commodities. Those folks were taken care of and protected while the village idiots were expendable cannon fodder.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:45 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do you think society has become so accepting of divorce, single parents, etc.?

Is there any doubt the Florida shooter was not a toxic mic of everything I just described? Bad family, probably on pills, and probably obsessed with macabre and violence? Why do you think that is?
a lot of things probably. but i think a big part of the root is treating people like commodity or resource, as a culture.
Is that new? People have always been valued for their contributions.
valuing people for their work is not the same as treating someone like they owe you their work, like they are only worth what they can do for you.
Again, when has that ever not been the case? People have always hired each other for their labor and skills, and have been valued in the community as such. When has the lazy fuck ever been viewed in the same regard as the community's doctor or problem solver? Even in primitive times, intelligence and skills, and the ability to get things done were viewed as valuable commodities. Those folks were taken care of and protected while the village idiots were expendable cannon fodder.
you don't want to take what i'm actually saying. so let's move on from this. apparently, we can only talk about what you think is the reason for why there is gun violence and abortion and all of those other things.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:49 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Let me show a difference among our community. Many of us have a healthy relationship with horror. I tend to see the black comedy in much of it and empathize with the victim. I am also a docile person who does not fantasize about harming people.

Do you get the sense someone like Lucian saw it that way? Laz? etc.
if it was really the fault of the movies, and not of the person, then wouldn't you and i not have a "healthy relationship with horror" as well?
Not everyone reacts the same way to stimulus. I have also basically stepped away from the stimulus for years now, so you can look at that as evidence of my relationship with it.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:50 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do you think society has become so accepting of divorce, single parents, etc.?

Is there any doubt the Florida shooter was not a toxic mic of everything I just described? Bad family, probably on pills, and probably obsessed with macabre and violence? Why do you think that is?
a lot of things probably. but i think a big part of the root is treating people like commodity or resource, as a culture.
Is that new? People have always been valued for their contributions.
valuing people for their work is not the same as treating someone like they owe you their work, like they are only worth what they can do for you.
Again, when has that ever not been the case? People have always hired each other for their labor and skills, and have been valued in the community as such. When has the lazy fuck ever been viewed in the same regard as the community's doctor or problem solver? Even in primitive times, intelligence and skills, and the ability to get things done were viewed as valuable commodities. Those folks were taken care of and protected while the village idiots were expendable cannon fodder.
you don't want to take what i'm actually saying. so let's move on from this. apparently, we can only talk about what you think is the reason for why there is gun violence and abortion and all of those other things.
Have you given a reason at all?

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:51 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Let me show a difference among our community. Many of us have a healthy relationship with horror. I tend to see the black comedy in much of it and empathize with the victim. I am also a docile person who does not fantasize about harming people.

Do you get the sense someone like Lucian saw it that way? Laz? etc.
if it was really the fault of the movies, and not of the person, then wouldn't you and i not have a "healthy relationship with horror" as well?
Not everyone reacts the same way to stimulus. I have also basically stepped away from the stimulus for years now, so you can look at that as evidence of my relationship with it.
is your approach to take away the stimulus from everyone though?

i'm not sure if dumping horror counts as a healthy relationship. :P

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:52 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Why do you think society has become so accepting of divorce, single parents, etc.?

Is there any doubt the Florida shooter was not a toxic mic of everything I just described? Bad family, probably on pills, and probably obsessed with macabre and violence? Why do you think that is?
a lot of things probably. but i think a big part of the root is treating people like commodity or resource, as a culture.
Is that new? People have always been valued for their contributions.
valuing people for their work is not the same as treating someone like they owe you their work, like they are only worth what they can do for you.
Again, when has that ever not been the case? People have always hired each other for their labor and skills, and have been valued in the community as such. When has the lazy fuck ever been viewed in the same regard as the community's doctor or problem solver? Even in primitive times, intelligence and skills, and the ability to get things done were viewed as valuable commodities. Those folks were taken care of and protected while the village idiots were expendable cannon fodder.
you don't want to take what i'm actually saying. so let's move on from this. apparently, we can only talk about what you think is the reason for why there is gun violence and abortion and all of those other things.
Have you given a reason at all?
not one that you want to actually take as it is.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:54 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:He got mentioned in the same breath as Lucy so I thought I missed something. :p
Head case, basically. Took everything literally, and seemed to hero worship the antagonists in an unhealthy way. Sociopathic liar. Scary, to me anyways.

Re: Exploiting tragedy

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Let me show a difference among our community. Many of us have a healthy relationship with horror. I tend to see the black comedy in much of it and empathize with the victim. I am also a docile person who does not fantasize about harming people.

Do you get the sense someone like Lucian saw it that way? Laz? etc.
if it was really the fault of the movies, and not of the person, then wouldn't you and i not have a "healthy relationship with horror" as well?
Not everyone reacts the same way to stimulus. I have also basically stepped away from the stimulus for years now, so you can look at that as evidence of my relationship with it.
is your approach to take away the stimulus from everyone though?

i'm not sure if dumping horror counts as a healthy relationship. :P
Not advocating that. Like anything, in the right context it is fine.

If you are watching knee replacement surgeries on youtube because you are a medical student and want to learn, it is a lot different than sniffing glue and jerking off to it.

I watched horror movies with my grandparents and family as a young child. There were limits and things were put into perspective.