2019 HMF fantasy football

[Headhunter]

Jake Del Real for Broncos GM.

Imagine watching tape of Russell Wilson and Brock Osweiler and thinking Brock Osweiler is the better quarterback.

Not hard. Everyone and their mother had Osweiler projected to be a better QB because of his height. Not just Elway. That's why he fell to the mid-rounds.

Russell is a little overrated, anyway.

Not me and nobody I talked to about football felt that way. There were 18 picks between them, not rounds and rounds, and Wilson was the higher projected player coming into the draft, Os was a reach. Everyone who'd watched them play and didn't just view football as a measurable contest knew it was laughable to compare the two. We all knew he was a top 10 pick if he were three inches taller and how retarded it was.

Not surprising you have a bad Wilson take. Elway drafting anyone even half as good as Wilson in his worst years is a fantasy.

[Headhunter]

Because you love to imagine it.

Elway is an alcoholic idiot who no players or coaches have a good thing to say about and he's running this franchise into the ground. Must be nice being as delusional as you are about the Broncos.

[Headhunter]

I understand if you don't like that I criticize your childhood hero, but none of that shit matters. He's regressed from QB legend into a Scotch-soaked rambling idiot who is probably the worst QB evaluator I've ever seen at the pro level, burns bridges with everyone he works with, and has really become our own Horse Faced version of old Al Davis. He needs to step down, take steps toward sobriety and get back to the dealerships. This shit isn't for him.

[Jason]

Trying to keep track of all the major sports games I've been to. Stacking up against me. I spent like an hour trying to remember if I went to Denver at San Diego in 2014. I watched the highlights and remember being at that the game and watching Connor Barth nail 5 field goals because McManus was sucking bad and dropped him to the practice squad. Decided I'd post all the NFL games I've been to.

1) L, DEN at LAR -11-06-1994, 27-21
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcYLkH2LPEg
John Elway vs. Chris Chandler. Almost got to see an Elway 4th quarter comeback. We were down 24-3 near the end of the 3rd quarter. Hilliard got a pick, Atwater recovered a Jerome Bettis fumble. Some notable names from the game are John Elway, Shannon Sharpe, Jason Elam, Jerome Bettis, Simon Fletcher, Dennis Smith, Steve Atwater, Ray Crockett, Karl Mecklenburg. Howard Griffith scored his first NFL touchdown with the Rams, but he went on to be a Super Bowl winning full back with Denver. I remember tiny pieces of the game. Loss brought us to 3-6.

2) W, DEN at S.D. - 10-19-2009, 34-23
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cewf5J4L2H0
Kyle Orton vs. Philip Rivers. Monday Night Football. Eddie Royal scored a punt and kick return TD. Champ broke coverage and made a TD saving shoe lace tackle in the open field on a guy somebody else was guarding. Brandon Marshall threw a fit and kicked the ball, causing a delay of game. Win brought us to 6-0.

3) W, DEN at TEN - 10-03-2010, 26-20
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5faFPrqOWs
Kyle Orton vs. Vince Young. Mariani of Tennessee scored a kickoff return TD. On their kickoff, DeMaryius Thomas returned a kick to around the Titans 11 yard line, I think. Pretty sure we only got a field goal out of that one, though. Down 20-16 with 1:38 to play, Orton throws a T.D. to Correll Buckhalter to make it 23-20. Prater pooches it and Mariani fumbles. Denver recovers and we run out most of the clock and kick an insurance field goal. Vince Young was seen after the game leaving in a very expensive car. Probably a quarter million. A Tennessee fan points to the car and tells him it's Vince Young. Vince Young then rolls up his window. lol. This was Denver's 4-12 season, their only road victory and I drove my ass 2,000 miles across country to go see it. The win brought us to 2-2.

4) W, DEN at S.D. - 11-27-2011, 16-13 OT
Full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai1ga65wS9w
Tim Tebow vs. Philip Rivers. Tebowmania was running wild and I caught a game right in the middle of it. Low scoring affair, but Tebow and company came through when we needed it. Down 10-0, Tebow throws a beauty TD to Decker 1:00 before halftime. Down 13-10 late in the 4th, Tebow drives us inside the 10 yard line, but we fail to get the TD and have to settle for a game tying field goal with 1:38 left to play. The game goes into overtime. 3:31 left to play and the Chargers are in field goal range at the Denver 31. 3rd and 6, Von Miller penetrates the line and stops Mike Tolbert for a 4- yard loss. Forcing Novak to attempt a 53 yard field goal for the win. The kick is blocked by Marcus Thomas, but John Fox called a timeout before the kick. I remember feeling totally dejected when that happened. I thought for certain Novak would make it, but luckily he didn't. Denver ball with 2:31 to play in overtime at their own 43. The big play was from the Chargers 41 yard line when McGahee broke a 24-yard run to put us in the red zone. Prater kicked a game-winning 37 yard field goal with 0:33 left in overtime. Win brought us to 6-5.

5) W, DEN at S.D. - 11-10-2013, 28-20
Full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov974QaG0TI
Peyton Manning vs. Philip Rivers. First time seeing Peyton Manning. Traffic was ridiculous, despite leaving extra early for the game. Parking was full, missed most of the first quarter. Heard fans cheering loudly from outside the stadium, which I found out was Julius Thomas scoring a 74 yard TD pass. Dominated the game, going up 28-6 in the 3rd and kinda coasted the rest of the way. Gotta a little nerve-wrecking toward the end, but finished with a relatively easy W. This was Pat Bowlen's 300th win as an NFL owner. The win brought us to 8-1.

6) W, TEN at DEN - 12-08-2013, 51-28
Full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip3EPiM7Xos
Peyton Manning vs. Ryan Fitzpatrick. My first ever Denver Broncos home game and it was the coldest god damn game I've ever been to in my fucking life. I think it was like 13 degrees at kickoff. John Fox returned from heart surgery in this game and finally showed he had some balls. Denver went for it on 4th down twice and went 2-for-2. On our first possession, it was 4th and goal at the 1 and Manning threw a TD to Welker. Despite blowing out Tennessee, we were actually down 21-10 in this game and it was looking kinda scary for a minute here. Ryan Fitzmagic was in full form and he was tough to stop. As time expired in the 1st half, Matt Prater hit an NFL record 64 yard field goal to bring us within one point, 21-20. I still remember seeing we were at the Tennessee 46 when he lined up for the field goal and realized immediately Prater was attempting a record kick. He had altitude, but despite that, footballs DO NOT TRAVEL WELL in cold weather. We had lower level, 40-yard line seats so we had a perfect view of the kick (Skip to 1:20:21 in the youtube video to see the kick). I remember seeing it go right over Leon Washington's head and I was in stunned disbelief when the referees signaled it was good. I was telling some fellow Bronco fans next to me as the crowd was deafening that Prater just broke the NFL record. I don't know if they realized it or not at the time, because we don't have a broadcast, all we have is crowd noise. But that seemed to be what turned it around for the Broncos. We scored 31 second half points and Fitzy could not keep up. It was so cold. Win brought us to 11-2.

7) W, DEN at S.D. - 12-14-2014, 22-10
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ka4AGLU7Dw
Peyton Manning vs. Philip Rivers. This is the game I remember the least about. Connor Barth kicked 5 field goals in I believe his first game with the Broncos. Lots of defense here and a pretty uneventful game overall. I am quite sure our seats were at the nosebleed, in the very back row up against the wall. Still not a bad view. I miss Qualcomm. Win brought us to 11-3.

8) W, DEN at LAC - 12-06-2015, 17-3
Full game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_byDnpub97w
Brock Osweiler vs. Philip Rivers. Brock filled in for Peyton as he recovered from plantar fascitits. This game was all defense, and one of the most impressive defensive games I've ever seen in my life and I got to see it in person. Trevathan got a pick-6, Von forced a fumble and recovered it, Darien Stewart recovered a fumble, Denver forced two turnovers on downs, one to end the game. Denver allowed 93 rushing yards and 179 passing yards for a game total yardage of 272 yards, 0 TDs, 4 fumbles with 2 recoveries, a pick-6, 4 sacks and 2 4th down stoppages.The win brought us to 10-2 and we went on to win the Super Bowl this season, two months later.

9) W, TEN at DEN - 10-13-2019, 16-0
Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRyHdLl6mOI
Joe Flacco vs. Marcus Mariota. As poorly as Denver had played all year, I absolutely did not expect a shut out. In fairness, this was kind of a battle of two shitty offenses but our defense really did play quite well, though, I am still more impressed with the 17-3 outing from the game I described above. With that said, this game was still interesting in a lot of ways. We got a rare NFL shutout which is always awesome, but I also may have witnessed the last game of Marcus Mariota as a Tennessee Titan. The dude is in his 5th year and is just not cutting it. He is not playing like a #2 overall pick should be playing. He was benched for Ryan Tannehill, who looked way better than Mariota. Tannehill made me nervous for the duration of the game, but we closed out the shutout and got a nice W. The win brought us to 2-4. I bought an Emmanuel Sanders jersey immediately after the game ended only for him to be traded a week later.

I am 8-1 in games attended as a Broncos fan. 2-0 at home, 6-1 on the road. Broncos home games are indescribably loud. The stadium shakes. It is awesome.

[Jason]

Jake Del Real for Broncos GM.

Imagine watching tape of Russell Wilson and Brock Osweiler and thinking Brock Osweiler is the better quarterback.

Not hard. Everyone and their mother had Osweiler projected to be a better QB because of his height. Not just Elway. That's why he fell to the mid-rounds.

Russell is a little overrated, anyway.

Not me and nobody I talked to about football felt that way. There were 18 picks between them, not rounds and rounds, and Wilson was the higher projected player coming into the draft, Os was a reach. Everyone who'd watched them play and didn't just view football as a measurable contest knew it was laughable to compare the two. We all knew he was a top 10 pick if he were three inches taller and how retarded it was.

Not surprising you have a bad Wilson take. Elway drafting anyone even half as good as Wilson in his worst years is a fantasy.

Thank the fuck christ he didn't listen to you and draft Josh Rosenbum. I'll take Bradley Chubb and an aging Joe Flacco 100/100 times.

[Jason]

I understand if you don't like that I criticize your childhood hero, but none of that shit matters. He's regressed from QB legend into a Scotch-soaked rambling idiot who is probably the worst QB evaluator I've ever seen at the pro level, burns bridges with everyone he works with, and has really become our own Horse Faced version of old Al Davis. He needs to step down, take steps toward sobriety and get back to the dealerships. This shit isn't for him.

Criticize him all you want. We've had two straight losing seasons, going on three. I'm just baffled you refuse to give credit where it's due. He single handedly formed the greatest offense the NFL has ever seen in 2013, and two years later single-handedly formed arguably the greatest defense the NFL has ever seen in 2015 and brought a Super Bowl home. That is the most impressive run I've ever seen a GM make.

[Headhunter]

I understand if you don't like that I criticize your childhood hero, but none of that shit matters. He's regressed from QB legend into a Scotch-soaked rambling idiot who is probably the worst QB evaluator I've ever seen at the pro level, burns bridges with everyone he works with, and has really become our own Horse Faced version of old Al Davis. He needs to step down, take steps toward sobriety and get back to the dealerships. This shit isn't for him.

Criticize him all you want. We've had two straight losing seasons, going on three. I'm just baffled you refuse to give credit where it's due. He single handedly formed the greatest offense the NFL has ever seen in 2013, and two years later single-handedly formed arguably the greatest defense the NFL has ever seen in 2015 and brought a Super Bowl home. That is the most impressive run I've ever seen a GM make.

“Single handedly”. Lmao. Brian Xanders, Champ Kelly, Adam Peters and Tom Heckert would have a good laugh at that. And half of that offense came from Josh McDaniels and Mike Shanahan picks.

I gave Elway all due credit for several years and I challenge you to dispute that. You’ve never been critical of him once. That’s what’s “baffling”.

[Headhunter]

Jake Del Real for Broncos GM.

Imagine watching tape of Russell Wilson and Brock Osweiler and thinking Brock Osweiler is the better quarterback.

Not hard. Everyone and their mother had Osweiler projected to be a better QB because of his height. Not just Elway. That's why he fell to the mid-rounds.

Russell is a little overrated, anyway.

Not me and nobody I talked to about football felt that way. There were 18 picks between them, not rounds and rounds, and Wilson was the higher projected player coming into the draft, Os was a reach. Everyone who'd watched them play and didn't just view football as a measurable contest knew it was laughable to compare the two. We all knew he was a top 10 pick if he were three inches taller and how retarded it was.

Not surprising you have a bad Wilson take. Elway drafting anyone even half as good as Wilson in his worst years is a fantasy.

Thank the fuck christ he didn't listen to you and draft Josh Rosenbum. I'll take Bradley Chubb and an aging Joe Flacco 100/100 times.

Yeah, too bad he didn’t listen to me when I said Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch were horrible prospects. Too bad he didn’t listen to me when I said Russ was a top 10 pick with a few inches. Too bad he didn’t listen to me when It was clear Case Keenum and Joe Flacco were both scrubs. Too bad he didn’t listen to me when I absolutely loved both Mahomes and Watson coming out of the draft and thought the Bears were stupid to pick Trubisky over them.

But hey, you have your Rosen “gotcha”! We haven’t learned a thing about him yet, but you need something you can use. Unfortunately for both of us, my track record shows I’m 100x better at evaluating QB talent than John Elway over the course of his tenure.

[Headhunter]

Also, Elway passed on a future Hall of Fame offensive lineman to pick Chubb, a high floor prospect who doesn’t have an All-Pro ceiling. With a top 5 pick, that’s hitting a single. Still, when it’s the same guy who picked Paxton Lynch and Garett Bolles, two actual retards, and believed VJ could be a great coach...the “safe” Elway pick is the best you can hope for. But it won’t move the needle for Denver.

[Headhunter]

Expanding on the four execs I mentioned. Xanders was the one who showed Elway the ropes and he ran the operation for the first couple years while Elway learned. 2011 and 2012 happened to be our best drafts until 2018. Elway fires Xanders for whatever reason, and Elway institutes a full takeover of all operations while promoting Matt Russell to be his right-hand-man. The fuck has Matt Russell done in his 11 years except be a great drinking buddy for Elway? Nobody has tried to hire Matt Russell away all this time, and he's the most powerful actual football evaluator in the organization.

Meanwhile, Champ Kelly was the best pure talent evaluator this franchise had in this century, and they let him walk in a lateral move to the Bears. He'll be a GM within a couple years. Elway let Adam Peters walk to SF as a damn favor to John Lynch. Tom Heckert was getting phased out of personnel decision making until his unfortunate death. So Elway loses four valuable assets in his front office and makes no effort to replace them. The room has gotten smaller and it's the John Elway and Matt Russell show, with AJ Durso having some influence but not close to their level.

I would fire Elway and replace him with Champ Kelly in a second. Would be an amazing move for the franchise.

[Reign in Blood]

1 minute before game time I was debating to start Diggs or not. I start him, and what does the motherfucker do on the first play I watch? Motherfucking fumbles!

FML

[Jason]

Too bad he didn’t listen to me when It was clear Case Keenum and Joe Flacco were both scrubs.

"At least now we have a decent QB"
- You, regarding Keenum.

I called him a one year wonder and I was right. Siemian was a stud and carried a god awful team to a winning record with him under center and I'm right about him. Saint Nick beat the Evil Empire in the Super Bowl and everyone laughed at me for even suggesting he could start in this league. Don't pretend like you're a stud at evaluating QBs with your awful QB track record. Me, sir. I am God King at this.

[showa58taro]

Oh my god, how can you still be bringing up Trevor Splooge. Christ buddy, let him go quietly into that good night already.

[Jason]

Also, how convenient that Xanders, Peters, Kelly and Heckert are responsible for all the good stuff but only Elway made the poot decisions. Hating for the sake of hating is unbecoming.

[Headhunter]

Also, how convenient that Xanders, Peters, Kelly and Heckert are responsible for all the good stuff but only Elway made the poot decisions. Hating for the sake of hating is unbecoming.

lolz, not surprised that's the conclusion you jumped to. All you ever do is look for inconsistencies and proceed to slip on banana peels.

Nobody of consequence replaced any of those guys. When there are less influential voices in the room, the voices that are in the room are amplified. The pro personnel department went from best in the league to being in shambles. The scouting department downgrades at the top. So yes, when you get rid of high level execs and make it even more of an Elway/Russell dominated front office, things will get worse.

[Headhunter]

Too bad he didn’t listen to me when It was clear Case Keenum and Joe Flacco were both scrubs.

"At least now we have a decent QB"
- You, regarding Keenum.

I called him a one year wonder and I was right. Siemian was a stud and carried a god awful team to a winning record with him under center and I'm right about him. Saint Nick beat the Evil Empire in the Super Bowl and everyone laughed at me for even suggesting he could start in this league. Don't pretend like you're a stud at evaluating QBs with your awful QB track record. Me, sir. I am God King at this.

Lmao, your QB takes have been consistently horrible for over a decade. You hype up backup quarterbacks like Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nick Foles and Trevor Siemian. You're so bad at this, those are your victory laps. I've actually called my shot on college QBs being great in the NFL and been right. You don't know close to enough to call those shots. You make excuses for human beings with eyes viewing Brock Osweiler as a better football player than Russell Wilson.

You're almost as bad as Elway at evaluating QBs. You might actually get better at it when you quit watching football.

[Headhunter]

Oh, and...

John Elway continues his all out assault on a once proud franchise.

That's what I actually said when we signed Keenum. Jason just making things up I guess. And I was right. Actually, on that page you'll see Jason is the one who liked the signing lmao

[Jason]

Oh, and...

John Elway continues his all out assault on a once proud franchise.

That's what I actually said when we signed Keenum. Jason just making things up I guess. And I was right. Actually, on that page you'll see Jason is the one who liked the signing lmao

I liked Keenum as a person because of how excited he was to be part of Denver. Stop with the Fake News.

Keep digging. You'll find your Keenum love.

[Jason]

Too bad he didn’t listen to me when It was clear Case Keenum and Joe Flacco were both scrubs.

"At least now we have a decent QB"
- You, regarding Keenum.

I called him a one year wonder and I was right. Siemian was a stud and carried a god awful team to a winning record with him under center and I'm right about him. Saint Nick beat the Evil Empire in the Super Bowl and everyone laughed at me for even suggesting he could start in this league. Don't pretend like you're a stud at evaluating QBs with your awful QB track record. Me, sir. I am God King at this.

Lmao, your QB takes have been consistently horrible for over a decade. You hype up backup quarterbacks like Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nick Foles and Trevor Siemian. You're so bad at this, those are your victory laps. I've actually called my shot on college QBs being great in the NFL and been right. You don't know close to enough to call those shots. You make excuses for human beings with eyes viewing Brock Osweiler as a better football player than Russell Wilson.

You're almost as bad as Elway at evaluating QBs. You might actually get better at it when you quit watching football.

A charlatan with F-level QB takes critiquing my A+ level QB takes. Fitzmagic propelled Denver to the 1 seed in 2015 with his OT win over the Pats. He out dueled Drew Brees and is the best Titans QB since Steve McNair. The disrespect from a charlatan is laughable. Nobody ever said he's the best QB in the league or some shit, you weirdo. Saint Nicholas wasn't even on the map when you dismissed him. Superb Owl MVP in one of the greatest performances in history still doesn't earn the charlatan's respect. How shocking.

The reason I am better than you is because you evaluate Pee wee football talent, which in turn gives you pee wee level evaluation. It's easy to listen to everyone predict the same QB to be #1 out of college and echo the same sentiments. What's not easy is recognizing the talent of lesser known NFL caliber QBs that nobody would bat an eye at because you let the sports media form opinions for you. Graduate to the big leagues and then we'll talk.

[showa58taro]

I like Fitzpatrick as much as the next guy but he’s not a good QB as a starter is he.