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Reign in Blood wrote:Maybe if you weren't using your crappy phone like Seb!

Maybe if yahoo actually did its job of... automatically saving so you don't have to click the tiny save button on the bottom... there would be no issue.

Make sure yahoo autosaves. Click refresh and make sure your changes went through every time.

Reign in Blood wrote:Maybe if you weren't using your crappy phone like Seb!

My phone has been rocking it. maybe if he WAS using a phone worth more than a cheese slice and some lint he might be able to participate.

This was hilarious. God, I miss Peyton.

Something tells me the picture in the end is an inside joke between him and Brees that none of us would get.

"It's been the greatest a thousand days of my life." lol.

In about two years it will be illegal to lay hands on a quarterback so guys will average 5000 yard seasons. All these records will look mundane.

Interesting thing about Brees is there was never a point where he was the best QB in the league. Peyton, then Brady/Rodgers. His greatness went under the radar for so long, he is going to be the guy people re-evaluate in a decade and wonder how people weren't geeking out over everything he accomplished at the time. His best year, Rodgers was just a little bit better. That kind of thing really hurts legacies, unfortunately.

Maybe this is sacrilegious, but when did people decide Peyton Manning was funny? I feel like his reputation is living off that SNL appearance. His whole schtick is just okay to me, feels very produced.

Montana
Elway
Marino
Young
Favre
Manning
Brady
Rodgers

Does Drew Brees crack this (chronological, not ranked) list? Or is he the ultimate "second tier" guy, ahead of but in the same tier as guys like Fouts, Kelly, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I can't decide.

Headhunter wrote:Maybe this is sacrilegious, but when did people decide Peyton Manning was funny? I feel like his reputation is living off that SNL appearance. His whole schtick is just okay to me, feels very produced.

I think some people make too much of it but he's had his moments.

Reign in Blood wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Maybe this is sacrilegious, but when did people decide Peyton Manning was funny? I feel like his reputation is living off that SNL appearance. His whole schtick is just okay to me, feels very produced.

I think some people make too much of it but he's had his moments.

He's on the dad humor spectrum, thought admittedly the funnier side of that spectru. Maybe it is the fact that everyone loses their shit over his humor every time that feels so off to me.

The greatest thing about comedy are the jokes you don't expect. Not all of Peyton's humor is a slam dunk obviously, but it's funny seeing a guy so reserved in his private life and in the media letting loose with a funny quote or commercial every other year or so. And how the hell can you not laugh at this video? This is spewing great comedy, and you all know how overrated I think Brady is.

Headhunter wrote:Montana
Elway
Marino
Young
Favre
Manning
Brady
Rodgers

Does Drew Brees crack this (chronological, not ranked) list? Or is he the ultimate "second tier" guy, ahead of but in the same tier as guys like Fouts, Kelly, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I can't decide.

Ultimate second tier is perfect. I have a lot of trouble with Philip Rivers being even second tier. Really good QB who has accumulated stats but way too many average teams captained. Had a couple great years, but even during them, never felt like he was the best in the league. Never truly dominant.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Montana
Elway
Marino
Young
Favre
Manning
Brady
Rodgers

Does Drew Brees crack this (chronological, not ranked) list? Or is he the ultimate "second tier" guy, ahead of but in the same tier as guys like Fouts, Kelly, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I can't decide.

Ultimate second tier is perfect. I have a lot of trouble with Philip Rivers being even second tier. Really good QB who has accumulated stats but way too many average teams captained. Had a couple great years, but even during them, never felt like he was the best in the league. Never truly dominant.

Would agree.

Saquon is amazing. Special back.

And he was 100% the wrong pick for the Giants.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Montana
Elway
Marino
Young
Favre
Manning
Brady
Rodgers

Does Drew Brees crack this (chronological, not ranked) list? Or is he the ultimate "second tier" guy, ahead of but in the same tier as guys like Fouts, Kelly, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I can't decide.

Ultimate second tier is perfect. I have a lot of trouble with Philip Rivers being even second tier. Really good QB who has accumulated stats but way too many average teams captained. Had a couple great years, but even during them, never felt like he was the best in the league. Never truly dominant.

The second tier to me is made for guys who were Hall of Fame great, had longevity but were never considered the best by anyone. Rivers could possibly be a stretch, though I wonder how things end up if he isn't stuck with a cheap, hapless franchise. Guy is a warrior and I will miss him when he's gone.

And yeah all these all-time QB numbers are going to look comical in a decade. The way QBs are protected combined with the pass-friendly nature of the league now, if guys can just stay healthy through their 30s there's no reason we won't have QBs playing at a high level for two decades. At a certain point with these older QBs, there's no defense you can throw at them that they haven't seen. They master the game. If they're healthy and their arms aren't shot, they can keep it going for a while. Brees might as well be 28 right now.

Peyton must be kicking himself watching Brady and Brees right now. His body just physically gave out or he could have stretched his career out a couple more years. I remember in 2014, the Rams put an absolute beating on him and he was never the same after that game.

Glad I remembered to put my Thursday pick in this week in the pickem. :p

Thursdays keep sneaking up on me. I'm over TNF, man.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Montana
Elway
Marino
Young
Favre
Manning
Brady
Rodgers

Does Drew Brees crack this (chronological, not ranked) list? Or is he the ultimate "second tier" guy, ahead of but in the same tier as guys like Fouts, Kelly, Roethlisberger and Rivers? I can't decide.

Ultimate second tier is perfect. I have a lot of trouble with Philip Rivers being even second tier. Really good QB who has accumulated stats but way too many average teams captained. Had a couple great years, but even during them, never felt like he was the best in the league. Never truly dominant.

The second tier to me is made for guys who were Hall of Fame great, had longevity but were never considered the best by anyone. Rivers could possibly be a stretch, though I wonder how things end up if he isn't stuck with a cheap, hapless franchise. Guy is a warrior and I will miss him when he's gone.

I like Rivers. In baseball terms, I see him as Tony Oliva or Mike Mussina. Guys who flirted around the upper tier but were never really in that conversation as the best, but also were franchise cornerstones for a long time. Like they get near MVP status but because they are so consistent and other top guys have an off year. They never had chance that defining moment that cemented them in the public consciousness as great, even though they were at times.

I would imagine if Rivers got to or won a SB he would be viewed a lot differently. I feel like he is going to be a victim of history. Kinda like the fourth best RB in the league when Smith and Sanders were dominating.

Headhunter wrote:And yeah all these all-time QB numbers are going to look comical in a decade. The way QBs are protected combined with the pass-friendly nature of the league now, if guys can just stay healthy through their 30s there's no reason we won't have QBs playing at a high level for two decades. At a certain point with these older QBs, there's no defense you can throw at them that they haven't seen. They master the game. If they're healthy and their arms aren't shot, they can keep it going for a while. Brees might as well be 28 right now.

Peyton must be kicking himself watching Brady and Brees right now. His body just physically gave out or he could have stretched his career out a couple more years. I remember in 2014, the Rams put an absolute beating on him and he was never the same after that game.

There will be some athletic guy who hangs around and evolves. He will throw 700 TDs against 200 INTs.