NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl

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Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:We're broke and can't pay Kahlil Mack hey let's give a guy who's been out of football for 10 years and never did shit after inheriting a stacked Dungy team 100 million dollars. Dude.
Coach doesn't count against the cap. Not really a fair comparison.

I think knowing Mack's final contract demand would be interesting.
I know that.

Coach's money coming from somewhere.
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Headhunter wrote:Two out of 31 attempts more than 10 yards downfield. So many ways you can break down that hilarity
Pats do it all the time.
13 pass attempts over 10 yards downfield this week.
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I think there’s room for shorter “take what they give you” passes, but still.
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14 for Brady, actually.
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showa58taro wrote:I think there’s room for shorter “take what they give you” passes, but still.
If a defense thinks you pose no threat to attack them downfield, DBs will squat on short routes and completely shut down your offense. I remember the Colts did this vs. Peyton in a playoff game. So Peyton kept trying to throw bombs downfield to Sanders and couldn't hit anything. It was horrible.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Two out of 31 attempts more than 10 yards downfield. So many ways you can break down that hilarity
Pats do it all the time.
I was actually going to ask the average, as it was dwindling downward every year, league wide.

Remember there used to be a route called the deep post that was used for more than just running defenders out of a zone?
After looking at a few QBs from a few different offensive systems/trees, looks like about 40% of attempts are 10+ yards downfield. Lower than 25% in a game seems to be extremely rare.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Two out of 31 attempts more than 10 yards downfield. So many ways you can break down that hilarity
Pats do it all the time.
13 pass attempts over 10 yards downfield this week.
Wide open Gronk for an 11 yard throw on the left side and a 28 yard run after catch.

I'm impressed.
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Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
To be fair, it's not easy to get that low.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
To be fair, it's not easy to get that low.
But you manage. More power to ya.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
To be fair, it's not easy to get that low.
But you manage. More power to ya.
Dude, that's an awful comeback. And mine was mediocre to begin with. Come on...
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Headhunter wrote:Dude, that's an awful comeback. And mine was mediocre to begin with. Come on...
Just working with what you give me. :p
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D.T. was this wide open in what would've been the game-winner against K.C.

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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
Took those posts straight out of the stadium and into the parking lot.
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Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
Took those posts straight out of the stadium and into the parking lot.
I hold the same standard for every QB.

Context matters. :ugeek:
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I feel like I've posted "average yards of separation" stats for WRs too that showed Pats WRs were closer to the bottom of the league than the top.

I'm out here in these HMF streets slaying narratives. Van Helsing for bad takes.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
You realize, esquire, that your superior talent evaluation would lead someone who doesn't know any better to the conclusion that the Patriots consistently have the most stacked god-given talented receiver corps year after year, and should play that god damn Creed song on every play, right?
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Reign in Blood wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:14 for Brady, actually.
Does them fancy nextgenstats tell you how god damn wide open each player was? er no...
Moving the goalposts already I see...
There are levels to evaluating talent that you've yet to reach, HeadwardSan.
You realize, esquire, that your superior talent evaluation would lead someone who doesn't know any better to the conclusion that the Patriots consistently have the most stacked god-given talented receiver corps year after year, and should play that god damn Creed song on every play, right?
Maybe they should know better.

I could get into Pats shadiness if you want. :)
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