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Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:37 pm
by Jason
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Been in only one big earthquake, but still not a Northridge level, in Washington. 6.8 was what it registered, and I was out on the road during it. Don't feel it in a moving car, but we knew something was up when the street lights were moving up and down.

I lost my McFarlane Ash and Snake Plissken figures in that earthquake too.

Oh I just looked up Northridge and it was only 6.7. Huh, Seattle didn't take anywhere near the same damage. I don't think.
Lose them in the gap between dimensions that the earthquake caused? :p

Or lost as in broke?

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:38 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:43 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
Right. He still served it and no evidence of it continued after. Should be able to get on with his life. Still has the right to work. Not far off from what that one SNL guy said about Louie CK recently in response to all the hate when Louie performed a show, defending that he has the right to move on with his life.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:44 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.
Let's not understate drug problems. How many kids are neglected every day because single momma needs her weed to get through the evenings...

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:48 pm
by Foo
Let's consider this for a moment. If someone commits a sex based offense, and you are going to push them to the edge of society and make them unemployable, even when in the company of no one but adults in a very secure setting, where does it ed up for them? Resorting to crime to live? Killing themselves?

If society deems the crimes so serious that this person can no longer be gainfully employed, should we be jailing them forever?

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:48 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Jason wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Been in only one big earthquake, but still not a Northridge level, in Washington. 6.8 was what it registered, and I was out on the road during it. Don't feel it in a moving car, but we knew something was up when the street lights were moving up and down.

I lost my McFarlane Ash and Snake Plissken figures in that earthquake too.

Oh I just looked up Northridge and it was only 6.7. Huh, Seattle didn't take anywhere near the same damage. I don't think.
Lose them in the gap between dimensions that the earthquake caused? :p

Or lost as in broke?
Broke. They fell off the shelves, among other things, but those two had to break. I was a sad panda.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:49 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
he did serve his time. and he got a black mark on his name.

i wouldn't like it, but they would be within their right if i had committed a crime. and it could even cause me to not be hired at all, even before having co-workers at all.

what kind of drug conviction? just recreational use or something worse?

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:49 pm
by Foo
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
Right. He still served it and no evidence of it continued after. Should be able to get on with his life. Still has the right to work. Not far off from what that one SNL guy said about Louie CK recently in response to all the hate when Louie performed a show, defending that he has the right to move on with his life.
People were seriously saying he should never work again. It is unreal.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:50 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.
Let's not understate drug problems. How many kids are neglected every day because single momma needs her weed to get through the evenings...
Drug problems are health problems.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:53 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Foo wrote:Let's consider this for a moment. If someone commits a sex based offense, and you are going to push them to the edge of society and make them unemployable, even when in the company of no one but adults in a very secure setting, where does it ed up for them? Resorting to crime to live? Killing themselves?

If society deems the crimes so serious that this person can no longer be gainfully employed, should we be jailing them forever?
That is how most repeat offenders occur, really. Society winds up refusing to let them move on, resorting to harassment till they break (by either getting themselves back into prison or killing themselves).

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:55 pm
by Foo
BTW, some old wrestling ribs:

- being a veteran, pulling your dick out, then extending your hand to a new guy to shake it after you grabbed your dick and it is still out

- Shitting in people's luggage

- having a ring rat blow you and then having them kiss another wrestler on the mouth

- cooking their dog and serving it to them

- putting an old dead fish in a woman's panties before she was to rub the crotch in a guy's face

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:57 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.
Let's not understate drug problems. How many kids are neglected every day because single momma needs her weed to get through the evenings...
Drug problems are health problems.
Drug problems are completely and easily preventable.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:58 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Rewatched Smokey & The Bandit for the gazillionth time. Never gets old.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:58 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.
Let's not understate drug problems. How many kids are neglected every day because single momma needs her weed to get through the evenings...
Drug problems are health problems.
Drug problems are completely and easily preventable.
A lot of health problems are.

Of course, in America, illness much like poverty is treated as a moral shortcoming.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:59 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:she wanted a sex offender out of the film. let's throw her under the bus, because of that. let's trash her character because of that.
He served his penalty to society, right? Do your co-workers get to dig into your past and get you ostracized because they object to your past?

Let's say it was a drug conviction, and not a sex crime?
That this is treated as some apples to apples thing is emblematic of some uniquely American problems that have been terrible for the country.
Let's not understate drug problems. How many kids are neglected every day because single momma needs her weed to get through the evenings...
Drug problems are health problems.
Drug problems are completely and easily preventable.
A lot of health problems are.

Of course, in America, illness much like poverty is treated as a moral shortcoming.
Yep.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:00 pm
by zombie
he should be able to move on with his life. victor salva is still able to make films. but throwing someone under the bus for just taking issue with his past feels weird to me. that's all.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:00 pm
by Foo
BTW, Asia Argento is now claiming the 17 year old sexually assaulted her, and is saying it is now time for "Phase Two" of the MeToo movement. lulz.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:02 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:BTW, Asia Argento is now claiming the 17 year old sexually assaulted her, and is saying it is now time for "Phase Two" of the MeToo movement. lulz.
she's still a creep, no matter how she tries to wriggle out of it or shift the narrative or whatever crap.

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:02 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:he should be able to move on with his life. victor salva is still able to make films. but throwing someone under the bus for just taking issue with his past feels weird to me. that's all.
Denouncing her actions = weird

Her destroying someone's opportunity at a normal life = not weird?

Re: September 6th 2018

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:05 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:BTW, Asia Argento is now claiming the 17 year old sexually assaulted her, and is saying it is now time for "Phase Two" of the MeToo movement. lulz.
she's still a creep, no matter how she tries to wriggle out of it or shift the narrative or whatever crap.
It's like a thug accidentally shooting himself in the face. Everyone's a winner!