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Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:13 pm
by zombie
how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:04 pm
by Reign in Blood
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:If you are a black democrat, it is career suicide to suggest personal responsibility is a problem among black inner city culture. More programs and more handouts are the way to political power.
you and tigg both seem to acknowledge that personal responsibility is only one part of a larger problem.
Liberal policy is the other part
so force all liberals into their own region of the country? what do you propose to keep those policies from having a part in the system?
That's crazy talk moving people. Gotta convince people to stop electing people who do nothing but hurt them in the long run.
Is it fuck. If we combined some of the ideas from you and Footopia in this thread (because let's face it we'd still have some criminal riff raff and lazy fucks to deal with) and got rid of all the liberal ideology and policies, we could have quite possibly the greatest civilization man has ever seen!

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:05 pm
by showa58taro
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
Controlled censorship. Best way to make it work.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:07 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:08 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:If you are a black democrat, it is career suicide to suggest personal responsibility is a problem among black inner city culture. More programs and more handouts are the way to political power.
you and tigg both seem to acknowledge that personal responsibility is only one part of a larger problem.
Liberal policy is the other part
so force all liberals into their own region of the country? what do you propose to keep those policies from having a part in the system?
That's crazy talk moving people. Gotta convince people to stop electing people who do nothing but hurt them in the long run.
Is it fuck. If we combined some of the ideas from you and Footopia in this thread (because let's face it we'd still have some criminal riff raff and lazy fucks to deal with) and got rid of all the liberal ideology and policies, we could have quite possibly the greatest civilization man has ever seen!
at the very least you won't have liberals to blame your problems on anymore.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:09 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.
run to? i got the sense that these were mandatory zones? if you make the choice where you wanna be, then is it maintainable, one way or the other?

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:14 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.
run to? i got the sense that these were mandatory zones? if you make the choice where you wanna be, then is it maintainable, one way or the other?
There would be a process for granting citizenship. But if you decide you want to live in Baltimore on a grand scale, by all means GTFO.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:22 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.
run to? i got the sense that these were mandatory zones? if you make the choice where you wanna be, then is it maintainable, one way or the other?
There would be a process for granting citizenship. But if you decide you want to live in Baltimore on a grand scale, by all means GTFO.
so every single person on your side of america would be all independently wealthy and able to pick up and move, go through the process of aquiring citizenship to the liberal side of america, if ever they choose to? i'd like to see that.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:26 pm
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
Controlled censorship. Best way to make it work.
i am getting the sense from all of this that foo (and maybe reign too?) wants some sort of mix of north korea and an idealized 1950s america. but i want to give the chance to show that isn't the case. that their ideal would work with a more free and open media.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:35 pm
by Headhunter
I can't wait for the neutral zone, anything goes West Coast in this fantasy America.

I'll come visit Conservatopia for SEC college football games.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:50 pm
by Headhunter
Bleeding Heartland and Conservatopia will be collapse under the weight of their own insanity. Liberterria will be a never-ending party.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:55 pm
by Tiggnutz
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:If you are a black democrat, it is career suicide to suggest personal responsibility is a problem among black inner city culture. More programs and more handouts are the way to political power.
you and tigg both seem to acknowledge that personal responsibility is only one part of a larger problem.
Liberal policy is the other part
so force all liberals into their own region of the country? what do you propose to keep those policies from having a part in the system?
That's crazy talk moving people. Gotta convince people to stop electing people who do nothing but hurt them in the long run.
Is it fuck. If we combined some of the ideas from you and Footopia in this thread (because let's face it we'd still have some criminal riff raff and lazy fucks to deal with) and got rid of all the liberal ideology and policies, we could have quite possibly the greatest civilization man has ever seen!
Does sound kinda nice

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:57 pm
by Jmac Attack
Conservative and liberals have failed our inner cities. Let's stop pointing the finger at one side. Jobs......you bring jobs to any poor area and crime goes down. My city is a slum now......full of white meth heads. Ran by conservatives. Just a few miles up north in Columbus, business is booming. The "short north" used to be a ghetto. Now it's safer than my neighborhoods. Especially on the south side, which has Amazon and lots of factories that have moved in. I deliver every week to these places. Most of the workers are not white. Mostly black.

Now I have to go back and read 103 pages of you guys probably actually figuring the world out. Lol

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:01 pm
by Jmac Attack
Kind of off topic......I ran over a hallway full of Muslim prayer rugs the other day, pushing a cart full of soiled towels Lmao! America!

(It was on accident though)

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:22 pm
by Reign in Blood
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.
run to? i got the sense that these were mandatory zones? if you make the choice where you wanna be, then is it maintainable, one way or the other?
There would be a process for granting citizenship. But if you decide you want to live in Baltimore on a grand scale, by all means GTFO.
so every single person on your side of america would be all independently wealthy and able to pick up and move, go through the process of aquiring citizenship to the liberal side of america, if ever they choose to? i'd like to see that.
They got feet, don't they? Get your liberal citizenship granted and get walking, they will take care of your every want and need from there I'm sure.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:24 pm
by showa58taro
Jmac Attack wrote:Conservative and liberals have failed our inner cities. Let's stop pointing the finger at one side. Jobs......you bring jobs to any poor area and crime goes down. My city is a slum now......full of white meth heads. Ran by conservatives. Just a few miles up north in Columbus, business is booming. The "short north" used to be a ghetto. Now it's safer than my neighborhoods. Especially on the south side, which has Amazon and lots of factories that have moved in. I deliver every week to these places. Most of the workers are not white. Mostly black.

Now I have to go back and read 103 pages of you guys probably actually figuring the world out. Lol
Hey now, this was a topic for Foo and Jason and Tigg and Reign to craft their conservative paradise. They said they couldn't have a conversation about race etc with us, so here we are, trying it out. Seeing what they see of the world. Hell of a ride.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:25 pm
by zombie
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
zombie wrote:how would the news and entertainment media be handled? how would you ensure that public opinion didn't shift away from what you want in the system?
That is the beauty of my plan, you'd have a liberal utopia to run to should your opinion change and you sour on living the good life.
run to? i got the sense that these were mandatory zones? if you make the choice where you wanna be, then is it maintainable, one way or the other?
There would be a process for granting citizenship. But if you decide you want to live in Baltimore on a grand scale, by all means GTFO.
so every single person on your side of america would be all independently wealthy and able to pick up and move, go through the process of aquiring citizenship to the liberal side of america, if ever they choose to? i'd like to see that.
They got feet, don't they? Get your liberal citizenship granted and get walking, they will take care of your every want and need from there I'm sure.
i want a balance, but this isn't about me. it's all for you. :P

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:26 pm
by Foo
Jmac Attack wrote:Conservative and liberals have failed our inner cities. Let's stop pointing the finger at one side. Jobs......you bring jobs to any poor area and crime goes down. My city is a slum now......full of white meth heads. Ran by conservatives. Just a few miles up north in Columbus, business is booming. The "short north" used to be a ghetto. Now it's safer than my neighborhoods. Especially on the south side, which has Amazon and lots of factories that have moved in. I deliver every week to these places. Most of the workers are not white. Mostly black.

Now I have to go back and read 103 pages of you guys probably actually figuring the world out. Lol
Luckily they have a liberal prophet like J-Mac who can lead them to the light!

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:51 pm
by Tiggnutz
I hope people don't mistake my posts as some hunt for a conservative wonderland that's not my goal my goal is to show democrats and liberals have destoyed cities and generations of people. While we joke thousands of lives suffer.

Re: Crime, Poverty, and the Footopia

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:52 pm
by Tiggnutz
Baltimore is on pace for the most deadly year in its history.