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Headhunter wrote:I'm slightly tickled that Mr. Hyperbole is demanding nuance. This might be the first time Foo has looked at a political issue with nuance in years. He openly detests nuance about 99% of the time.

Perhaps through the black and white lens in which you babies the world, my nuance is largely lost? It is like taking a photo of a beautiful 4K tv with a 20 year old webcam.

It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: You can have it and not know it. You can have it and not want to admit it. Lots of other factors than just "u call me liar bro?"

what are the warning signs? what are the symptoms?

If you're showing signs of Head's pattern of anti-white, liberal weirdness than that is a textbook symptom.

Keep calling me either stupid for not knowing myself or a liar. Keep it up!

Jason wrote:

Foo wrote:What do you think of Castile driving while getting high with a child in the car?

He was arrested 22 times...

Marijuana is good for you, though. He smokes marijuana to clear his head so he can take better care of his child.

Omg I'd love to hear your moronic views on marijuana. You genuinely know nothing about it. Keep going.

Speaking of marijuana. A little off topic, but I've got a fairly interesting story I thought I'd share.

My friend's wife recently lost her marbles. They have a young daughter about two and just moved into a new home. But over the past few weeks she went pretty nutty and accused him of cheating on her (100% chance he would never do that, btw). She was stalking him at work, freaking out 24/7 about totally off the wall, bizarre ass shit. So they actually took her to the hospital and determined that because she had been recently using marijuana more frequently than normal, it caused a chemical imbalance in her brain. Another friend visited her in the hospital and she said the Ninja Turtles came. He thought she was joking or that maybe some people dressed up as Ninja Turtles were going around making kids happier or something. He had to be pulled to the side and told that she actually believed she saw real Ninja Turtles.

I'm not sure how they treated the chemical imbalance in her brain, but she is completely fine now. Pretty crazy shit.

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk. You don't want to hear it but it's truth. Sorry if you can't handle that it's a false equivalence.

Please pretend you can speak for a man you've done nothing but spit on.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk. You don't want to hear it but it's truth. Sorry if you can't handle that it's a false equivalence.

Please pretend you can speak for a man you've done nothing but spit on.

Only 100x safer? Not 200x safer? Not 300x safer?

We don't even have to consider how drunk or how high when we are talking about the magic weed!

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Foo wrote:What do you think of Castile driving while getting high with a child in the car?

He was arrested 22 times...

Marijuana is good for you, though. He smokes marijuana to clear his head so he can take better care of his child.

Omg I'd love to hear your moronic views on marijuana. You genuinely know nothing about it. Keep going.

I don't really have views on marijuana. Not something I'm interested in, not something I've ever done, also not something I know much about. I would say driving on marijuana would be equally ill-advised as driving while drinking.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk. You don't want to hear it but it's truth. Sorry if you can't handle that it's a false equivalence.

Please pretend you can speak for a man you've done nothing but spit on.

Only 100x safer? Not 200x safer? Not 300x safer?

We don't even have to consider how drunk or how high when we are talking about the magic weed!

All of the above, probably 500x. Maybe 1000x

I'm sorry you hate the facts. It's not even on the same scale as dangerous. And frankly, it's funny that you think you can be the judge of that when you've been smart enough to not drive under the influence of either.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk.

Annnd holy shit. lol.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Foo wrote:What do you think of Castile driving while getting high with a child in the car?

He was arrested 22 times...

Marijuana is good for you, though. He smokes marijuana to clear his head so he can take better care of his child.

Omg I'd love to hear your moronic views on marijuana. You genuinely know nothing about it. Keep going.

I don't really have views on marijuana. Not something I'm interested in, not something I've ever done, also not something I know much about. I would say driving on marijuana would be equally ill-advised as driving while drinking.

I would say you're wrong and it isn't even remotely close. Unfortunately, that's from personal experience. I'm not proud.

It is more dangerous to drive buzzed on alcohol than driving as high on weed as you can possibly be.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk.

Annnd holy shit. lol.

Ever driven drunk? Ever driven high? If not, how the hell would you know?

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Seb admits it.

Just reading up what it means, it suggests the assertion that White People should consider the historic racism and atrocities of the past in their reconciliation of the present. Which is exactly what I talk about when I talk about the blatant institutional racism present in the US and how it is visibly harder to be a black man than a white man in the US, now, and that this ties through to the difficult history of racism and slavery in the US, and the slow but painful movement towards equality. On that scale, I certainly fall more towards the "White people need to make amends" category than the "it's all good" category.

In this argument about cops, though, I have deliberately avoided that topic altogether as I don't think that was the central premise here.

i think you're trying hard to apply "white guilt" to your viewpoints for the sake of it, and i don't understand why. you can ackowledge that racism exists, or that white americans, at points in our history, behaved in a fucked up way toward mimorities, without feeling guilty yourself, for that history, or the racism you see in certain other people.

i don't feel guilty because of the actions of others. charles manson murdered a bunch of people in the past. but that does not impact me personally in any way. and it shouldn't be held against me, in any way, as a white male.

Reign in Blood wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote: You can have it and not know it. You can have it and not want to admit it. Lots of other factors than just "u call me liar bro?"

Pretty sure you're confusing the concept of white guilt with Herpes.

Syphilis?

Or both!

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk.

Annnd holy shit. lol.

Ever driven drunk? Ever driven high? If not, how the hell would you know?

It's pretty well-known that alcohol and marijuana affect everyone differently. Some people drive like saints and blow a .25. Some people drive recklessly and almost kill themselves when they're high. An old friend totaled his car and nearly killed himself, years back because he was smoking marijuana. Told me the story himself.
Did you read my marijuana/chemical imbalance story? It doesn't have equal affects on every person. Therefore, just as dangerous as driving on alcohol. Narcotics, sir.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk.

Annnd holy shit. lol.

Ever driven drunk? Ever driven high? If not, how the hell would you know?

It's pretty well-known that alcohol and marijuana affect everyone differently. Some people drive like saints and blow a .25. Some people drive recklessly and almost kill themselves when they're high. An old friend totaled his car and nearly killed himself, years back because he was smoking marijuana. Told me the story himself.
Did you read my marijuana/chemical imbalance story? It doesn't have equal affects on every person. Therefore, just as dangerous as driving on alcohol. Narcotics, sir.

It's definitely not as dangerous as driving on alcohol or narcotics. Sorry, that point is a non-starter in this convo.

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Seb admits it.

Just reading up what it means, it suggests the assertion that White People should consider the historic racism and atrocities of the past in their reconciliation of the present. Which is exactly what I talk about when I talk about the blatant institutional racism present in the US and how it is visibly harder to be a black man than a white man in the US, now, and that this ties through to the difficult history of racism and slavery in the US, and the slow but painful movement towards equality. On that scale, I certainly fall more towards the "White people need to make amends" category than the "it's all good" category.

In this argument about cops, though, I have deliberately avoided that topic altogether as I don't think that was the central premise here.

i think you're trying hard to apply "white guilt" to your viewpoints for the sake of it, and i don't understand why. you can ackowledge that racism exists, or that white americans, at points in our history, behaved in a fucked up way toward mimorities, without feeling guilty yourself, for that history, or the racism you see in certain other people.

i don't feel guilty because of the actions of others. charles manson murdered a bunch of people in the past. but that does not impact me personally in any way. and it shouldn't be held against me, in any way, as a white male.

In this case I definitely was not applying white guilt to any point whatsoever, just to be clear.

I think in other contexts, it acts as an obvious fulcrum for how to address imbalances in society, and that if you don't acknowledge the inequalities and redress them, you are by default omitting the historic imbalance of power.

And if we want to have an honest convo, it would be: who is safer behind the wheel, a stoner or an alcoholic? Both are used to the effects of their drug of choice. Not a single doubt in my mind the alcoholic is more dangerous.

Jason wrote:Speaking of marijuana. A little off topic, but I've got a fairly interesting story I thought I'd share.

My friend's wife recently lost her marbles. They have a young daughter about two and just moved into a new home. But over the past few weeks she went pretty nutty and accused him of cheating on her (100% chance he would never do that, btw). She was stalking him at work, freaking out 24/7 about totally off the wall, bizarre ass shit. So they actually took her to the hospital and determined that because she had been recently using marijuana more frequently than normal, it caused a chemical imbalance in her brain. Another friend visited her in the hospital and she said the Ninja Turtles came. He thought she was joking or that maybe some people dressed up as Ninja Turtles were going around making kids happier or something. He had to be pulled to the side and told that she actually believed she saw real Ninja Turtles.

I'm not sure how they treated the chemical imbalance in her brain, but she is completely fine now. Pretty crazy shit.

i obviously don't know how this works. but it seems weird to me. i haven't heard of marijuana being hallucinogenic to that point? do you know if she was taking other things as well?

as for the paranoia, i can see that more likely. there are all sorts of things that could trigger you to be more paranoid. mood altering drugs is probably high among them.