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zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:as for spielberg vs. scorsese... spielberg has worked within a wider range of genres and managed great films in most of them. but scorsese has made better films from within his wheelhouse.

Doesn't Spielberg almost own his wheelhouse?

maybe as far as theme-wise. but he has done films in nearly every genre. horror, action, comedy. epic. science fiction. etc. scorsese has held mostly to crime and gangster films.

Feels like 50/50 with Scorsese. A lot of diversity within the non-gangster category too.

he has done other stuff. last temptation, after hours, hugo and such. but that's not what he's known for. it's not what gets remembered. that last part is more our fault than his. but it seems to be the case, regardless.

this is all just my take and understanding though. i'm not trying to tell you how to think of scorsese or spielberg.

Well, most of it isn't as good would be why it's not remembered. But how much of a legacy does Spielberg's non-paranormal adventure stuff have? It's just Schindler's and Saving Private Ryan, isn't it? Sounds funny to say "just" because those are two amazing movies but how much of the other stuff is viewed in that kind of regard?

Headhunter wrote: Well, most of it isn't as good would be why it's not remembered. But how much of a legacy does Spielberg's non-paranormal adventure stuff have? It's just Schindler's and Saving Private Ryan, isn't it? Sounds funny to say "just" because those are two amazing movies but how much of the other stuff is viewed in that kind of regard?

okay. maybe most of spielberg's films fall into two categories, theme-wise. the more fantastical kind of child-like stuff. (jaws et, hook, jurassic park, indy. etc) and the more adult moody type stuff. (empire of the sun, amistad, munich, war horse. etc) maybe it's not as varied as it seems to be, because he is known for certain themes and scorsese is known for a certain subgenre.

I think this breakdown illustrates how close it is and how hard it would be for other directors to match or surpass either of them.

Nolan hasn't really missed yet. That's something.

You can have any filmmaker's ten year run. Who you taking?

This one is hard to top:

Coppola - Patton (writer), The Godfather, The Godfather Pt. 2, The Conversation, Apocalypse Now

Hitchcock (1954-1963)

Dial M for Murder, Rear Window, To Catch a Thief, The Trouble with Harry, The Man Who Knew Too Much, The Wrong Man, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Psycho, The Birds

Dear god

Carpenter

Halloween (1978)
The Fog (1980)
Escape from New York (1981)
The Thing (1982)
Christine (1983)
Starman (1984)
Big Trouble in Little China (1986)
Prince of Darkness (1987)
They Live (1988)




Hitchcock

Stage Fright
Strangers on a Train
I Confess
Dial M for Murder
Rear Window
To Catch a Thief
The Trouble with Harry
The Man Who Knew Too Much
The Wrong Man
Vertigo
North by Northwest
Psycho

Headhunter wrote:I think this breakdown illustrates how close it is and how hard it would be for other directors to match or surpass either of them.

Nolan hasn't really missed yet. That's something.

i think you have to give nolan another decade, at least, before he may count among spielberg and scorsese. but he's on his way.

Spielberg (75-84)

Jaws
Close Encounters
1941
Raiders of the Lost Ark
ET
Poltergeist
Twilight Zone
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom


You can't make the ideal Scorsese decade. There's no "right" combination.

Headhunter wrote:Spielberg (75-84)

Jaws
Close Encounters
1941
Raiders of the Lost Ark
ET
Poltergeist
Twilight Zone
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom


You can't make the ideal Scorsese decade. There's no "right" combination.

you're counting producing, with poltergeist or of the camp that thinks hooper was an in-name-only director?

Wilder's 1950-1960 is also pretty remarkable.

Sunset Boulevard
Ace in the Hole
Stalag 17
Sabrina
The Seven Year Itch
The Spirit of St Louis
Love in the Afternoon
Witness for the Prosecution
Some Like it Hot
The Apartment

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Spielberg (75-84)

Jaws
Close Encounters
1941
Raiders of the Lost Ark
ET
Poltergeist
Twilight Zone
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom


You can't make the ideal Scorsese decade. There's no "right" combination.

you're counting producing, with poltergeist or of the camp that thinks hooper was an in-name-only director?

Puppet director. That was a Spielberg movie without a doubt IMO

Also if it's your screenplay I think you deserve as much credit in this exercise as the director as long as they didn't hack it up.

John Huston 1941-1950

High Sierra (writer)
The Maltese Falcon
Sergeant York (writer)
In This Our Life
The Killers (writer)
Three Strangers (writer)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Key Largo
We Were Strangers
The Asphalt Jungle

lots of great films on these lists. i'm struggling to find a great ten year span that you didn't post already. and one that i'm familiar enough with to judge quality as well.

Underrated one...Rob Reiner (1984-1993)

This is Spinal Tap
The Sure Thing
Stand by Me
The Princess Bride
When Harry Met Sally
Misery
A Few Good Men

what are your ten favorite directors, and how do they compare to these guys as far as ten year span goes? (some of the directors will probably make your lists too. i'm aware)

I had a dream last night about someone falling to their death out of a building.

Watched The Departed. It happened in that movie. I'm on the 7th episode of 11.22.63. It just happened in that episode.

Fucking freaky.

now if one of us falls out of a building and dies, i'm gonna hate you.

zombie wrote:now if one of us falls out of a building and dies, i'm gonna hate you.

Seriously. It's freaky. I've had shit like this happen before.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:now if one of us falls out of a building and dies, i'm gonna hate you.

Seriously. It's freaky. I've had shit like this happen before.

it is freaky coincidence. what's the last other time? give the details.