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Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:34 pm
by Jason
All viable alternatives!!

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:51 am
by showa58taro
You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:49 am
by Jmac Attack
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
Boom.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:00 am
by Jmac Attack
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
They wanna do away with all that shit. They are doing "God's work". Its the whole morality thang.

Anyway, back to the original post about the link I provided. An ectopic pregnancy can happen even with women who can't have kids. If it ever happens to my wife, and it has before, she could die.

And it almost happened. It's a long story, but she survived cervical cancer years before I met her. With this law, it would provide too much red tape for my wife to be able to get that procedure. Or worse. People could be prosecuted. I mean, this is over the top for me.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:04 am
by Jmac Attack
Jmac Attack wrote:
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
They wanna do away with all that shit. They are doing "God's work". Its the whole morality thang.

Anyway, back to the original post about the link I provided. An ectopic pregnancy can happen even with women who can't have kids. If it ever happens to my wife, and it has before, she could die.

And it almost happened. It's a long story, but she survived cervical cancer years before I met her. With this law, it would provide too much red tape for my wife to be able to get that procedure. Or worse. People could be prosecuted. I mean, this is over the top for me.
I guess I should wear rubbers!

It would be a really extreme and rare occurence for my wife to have another ectopic "pregnancy". But the option should be available for us to be able to make those decisions that could save her life.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:04 am
by Jason
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
Based on what? Blue states are the ones advocating for abortions, which is the topic at hand, here.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:06 am
by Jason
Jmac Attack wrote:
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
Boom.
Boom what? What's the "gotcha", here?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:19 am
by DancesWithWerewolves
They're just advocating to keep the choice available. They're not handing them out like candy. As the saying goes: don't want one don't get one.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:37 am
by Jason
Right. I'm for that, as well...

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:19 am
by zombie
Jason wrote:
showa58taro wrote:You say that as if sex Ed and contraceptives aren’t way more prevalent in Blue states than Red.
Based on what? Blue states are the ones advocating for abortions, which is the topic at hand, here.
the topic should be everything. abortion, contraception, sex education. trying to outlaw abortion clinics, trying to keep sex-ed out of schools. etc

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:02 pm
by Jason
So they should talk about that. All they're saying is how badly they want abortions. Wear condoms. Birth control pill. At least pull out, ffs.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:04 pm
by zombie
so we can agree that they should talk about and consider things that already being talked about and considered.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:19 pm
by Jason
Sure, but also do it in the mainstream and not limit it to how much they love abortions.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:25 pm
by zombie
instead of talking about the evils of abortions and how it needs to be outlawed, talk publicly about adoption and other "pro-life" options in the mainstream?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:53 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:instead of talking about the evils of abortions and how it needs to be outlawed, talk publicly about adoption and other "pro-life" options in the mainstream?
I see that far more often from the right, tbh... Left is "abort first, fix issue later"

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:07 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:instead of talking about the evils of abortions and how it needs to be outlawed, talk publicly about adoption and other "pro-life" options in the mainstream?
I see that far more often from the right, tbh... Left is "abort first, fix issue later"
if "pro-life options" are gonna come from anywhere, it'll be the right. yeah. but i don't see that. beyond you're a horrible person if you consider abortion. and let's outlaw abortion! let's also outlaw sex education in our schools! and no offering of actual pro-life options, just anti-abortion.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:18 pm
by Headhunter
It’s 100% fact that sex Ed and contraceptive access is more readily available in blue states. I didn’t even think it needed to be said.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:21 pm
by Jason
Odd that they don't use them and would rather hit the abortion clinic instead.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:22 pm
by Headhunter
Oh and again needless to say, this talking point of “wanting” abortions is a load of crap. It’s about access. No argument to be had if you can’t understand that basic point.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:23 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:Odd that they don't use them and would rather hit the abortion clinic instead.
You’re doing nothing but making shit up here. You badly need to brush up on the politics and history of this debate.