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Because it doesn't matter to him. If the Trumps did it, it's right. That's his moral compass in politics.Tiggnutz wrote:How can you defend something that he admits to doing. Thats crazyJason wrote:Holy fuck. lol. Seriously, you guys. Holy fuck...
Why was it Obama's responsibility to improve race relations? Was it also Bush's, Clinton's?Jmac Attack wrote:Obama's foreign policies were butt awful. He was bad with race relations. Hillary is crooked. Trump and his people are shady.Tiggnutz wrote:Tigg puts country first above political party and ive seen enough to call it what it was, attempted collusion. Just as scummy as Obama
All of us play favorites. It's human nature. But I am not sure there is a breaking point for him.Headhunter wrote:Because it doesn't matter to him. If the Trumps did it, it's right. That's his moral compass in politics.Tiggnutz wrote:How can you defend something that he admits to doing. Thats crazyJason wrote:Holy fuck. lol. Seriously, you guys. Holy fuck...
Trump could end up behind bars and Jason would still deny it. Nothing is more embarrassing to people than being wrong, admitting that is all that matters.Jmac Attack wrote:All of us play favorites. It's human nature. But I am not sure there is a breaking point for him.Headhunter wrote:Because it doesn't matter to him. If the Trumps did it, it's right. That's his moral compass in politics.Tiggnutz wrote:How can you defend something that he admits to doing. Thats crazyJason wrote:Holy fuck. lol. Seriously, you guys. Holy fuck...
I get ya. But even at the Dallas funeral, Obama admitted as much. I posted it here, but Ava scolded me about him, lol. Not sure he is ultimately responsible, but it seems that he wishes he could have done better. A lot of people feel like he didn't do so well in his speeches after any time a black dude was killed by a white dude and it gained national attention. So my assessment was that he wasn't that great in retrospect. It is a much bigger issue that we can't solely blame the president.Headhunter wrote:Why was it Obama's responsibility to improve race relations? Was it also Bush's, Clinton's?Jmac Attack wrote:Obama's foreign policies were butt awful. He was bad with race relations. Hillary is crooked. Trump and his people are shady.Tiggnutz wrote:Tigg puts country first above political party and ive seen enough to call it what it was, attempted collusion. Just as scummy as Obama
It's like the Dave Chapelle "R Kelly FiF" skit. "You know, any fat kid can hack and make it seem like I did it." Or something....lolHeadhunter wrote:Trump could end up behind bars and Jason would still deny it. Nothing is more embarrassing to people than being wrong, admitting that is all that matters.Jmac Attack wrote:All of us play favorites. It's human nature. But I am not sure there is a breaking point for him.Headhunter wrote:Because it doesn't matter to him. If the Trumps did it, it's right. That's his moral compass in politics.Tiggnutz wrote:How can you defend something that he admits to doing. Thats crazyJason wrote:Holy fuck. lol. Seriously, you guys. Holy fuck...
Obama was heavily criticized by both the black community and police supporters every time, it was always lose-lose. Not sure what he was supposed to do. With both sides angry, probably means he did okay.Jmac Attack wrote:I get ya. But even at the Dallas funeral, Obama admitted as much. I posted it here, but Ava scolded me about him, lol. Not sure he is ultimately responsible, but it seems that he wishes he could have done better. A lot of people feel like he didn't do so well in his speeches after any time a black dude was killed by a white dude and it gained national attention. So my assessment was that he wasn't that great in retrospect. It is a much bigger issue that we can't solely blame the president.Headhunter wrote:Why was it Obama's responsibility to improve race relations? Was it also Bush's, Clinton's?Jmac Attack wrote:Obama's foreign policies were butt awful. He was bad with race relations. Hillary is crooked. Trump and his people are shady.Tiggnutz wrote:Tigg puts country first above political party and ive seen enough to call it what it was, attempted collusion. Just as scummy as Obama
What is your take on it?
yeah, that's why i wanted to take that back out of the discussion. he'll latch onto it and use it to cloud the actual issue.Headhunter wrote:Other than getting hung up on calling Russia an "enemy state", which doesn't even matter in any way, Jason has no argument and he knows it. He's just wired to defend Trump at all costs but now he's stuck with this blatant case of attempted collusion so you can't expect any more rational responses from him on the subject for a long time. A rational response would mean eating crow, and he won't.
This is where Jason deflected from the original subject to talk about other things. It worked, to his credit.Jason wrote:Russia is an enemy? Fucking lol.Tiggnutz wrote:It doesnt matter if when they met she started singing Yankee Doodle they went with the intention of getting information from an enemy state to use in an election. Thats fucked dude.Jason wrote:"After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information".Headhunter wrote:Nevermind it was "by their fruit, you will know them". Messed up the fruit analogy. You also said you looked forward to hearing more from him, so today is your lucky day Jason.
*Yawn*
Welp, the media clearly brainwashed you, Tigg. Russia is not an enemy state.
This is pointless speculation to again deflect from anything related to the attempted collusion. Hillary lost. Get over it.Jason wrote:Don't change the subject, Tigg. You dinks are declaring Russia an enemy state. That is Liberal ideology 101.
If Hillary were elected, she would have legitimately made us an enemy of Russia and all the libs would support her warmongering.
It would be Cold War Pt. II: The Button Finally Gets Pushed Edition.
Here's an "everyone does it" argument. A classic deflection that almost always signals "Okay it happened, but it didn't matter". In what other sense could this be relevant? It couldn't. Amazing.Jason wrote:The world has only been doing things like this for the last 100 years. I'm glad you care, all of a sudden.zombie wrote:foreign governments should not be involved (or sought out to get involved) with our elections.
Lmao did you really try to pass off that hypothetical as comparable to this at all? An attempt to actively undermine democracy by influencing an election is not equivalent to solving a crime about a man who has been dead for 50+ yearsJason wrote:What's immoral about that? What if Canada somehow had dirt that proved who was behind the JFK Assassination or some shit, and they were willing to spill the beans? Should we not seek out that information?Tiggnutz wrote:Knowing Russia is manipulative and untrustworthy is common sense and has nothing to do with Liberals. And like Zombie said going to meet as you see them our good friend Russia to get dirt to use in our election is still wrong.Jason wrote:Don't change the subject, Tigg. You dinks are declaring Russia an enemy state. That is Liberal ideology 101.
If Hillary were elected, she would have legitimately made us an enemy of Russia and all the libs would support her warmongering.
It would be Cold War Pt. II: The Button Finally Gets Pushed Edition.
This entire thing is pretty retarded, fyi.
The media does suck sometimes. It always seemed like the media would report a story as soon as it happened, without all the details, then the White House would automatically respond with only one side of the story. I don't think it was on purpose. They generally meant well.Headhunter wrote:Obama was heavily criticized by both the black community and police supporters every time, it was always lose-lose. Not sure what he was supposed to do. With both sides angry, probably means he did okay.Jmac Attack wrote:I get ya. But even at the Dallas funeral, Obama admitted as much. I posted it here, but Ava scolded me about him, lol. Not sure he is ultimately responsible, but it seems that he wishes he could have done better. A lot of people feel like he didn't do so well in his speeches after any time a black dude was killed by a white dude and it gained national attention. So my assessment was that he wasn't that great in retrospect. It is a much bigger issue that we can't solely blame the president.Headhunter wrote:Why was it Obama's responsibility to improve race relations? Was it also Bush's, Clinton's?Jmac Attack wrote:Obama's foreign policies were butt awful. He was bad with race relations. Hillary is crooked. Trump and his people are shady.Tiggnutz wrote:Tigg puts country first above political party and ive seen enough to call it what it was, attempted collusion. Just as scummy as Obama
What is your take on it?
I am all over the place tonight. Lol.I get it, I've just noticed people had a tendency hold Obama to this higher standard of achieving racial harmony simply because he was black. Nobody ever directly said it but the implication was always there.Jmac Attack wrote:The media does suck sometimes. It always seemed like the media would report a story as soon as it happened, without all the details, then the White House would automatically respond with only one side of the story. I don't think it was on purpose. They generally meant well.Headhunter wrote:Obama was heavily criticized by both the black community and police supporters every time, it was always lose-lose. Not sure what he was supposed to do. With both sides angry, probably means he did okay.Jmac Attack wrote:I get ya. But even at the Dallas funeral, Obama admitted as much. I posted it here, but Ava scolded me about him, lol. Not sure he is ultimately responsible, but it seems that he wishes he could have done better. A lot of people feel like he didn't do so well in his speeches after any time a black dude was killed by a white dude and it gained national attention. So my assessment was that he wasn't that great in retrospect. It is a much bigger issue that we can't solely blame the president.Headhunter wrote:Why was it Obama's responsibility to improve race relations? Was it also Bush's, Clinton's?Jmac Attack wrote:Obama's foreign policies were butt awful. He was bad with race relations. Hillary is crooked. Trump and his people are shady.Tiggnutz wrote:Tigg puts country first above political party and ive seen enough to call it what it was, attempted collusion. Just as scummy as Obama
What is your take on it?
But Tigg was close to a lot of the racial tension the past couple of years, and I can see it pisses him off. In a way, we can say that Obama failed his community. But I won't call Obama a piece of shit for everything that happened.
Does that make sense? Lol. I am smoking really good weed tonight. Had a cluster headache earlier, and smoked some Jack Herer hybrid haze shit.
Ok.....bucket list.....Headhunter wrote:Sounds like a great excuse to go take some shrooms and post on HMF that night for the sake of community entertainment but hey, what do I know.
I haven't taken shrooms since college, but it is 10/10 fun.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.Headhunter wrote:Other than getting hung up on calling Russia an "enemy state", which doesn't even matter in any way, Jason has no argument and he knows it. He's just wired to defend Trump at all costs but now he's stuck with this blatant case of attempted collusion so you can't expect any more rational responses from him on the subject for a long time. A rational response would mean eating crow, and he won't.
That was an "Oh, how convenient that you decide to care now, because someone you didn't like won an election".Headhunter wrote:Here's an "everyone does it" argument. A classic deflection that almost always signals "Okay it happened, but it didn't matter". In what other sense could this be relevant? It couldn't. Amazing.Jason wrote:The world has only been doing things like this for the last 100 years. I'm glad you care, all of a sudden.zombie wrote:foreign governments should not be involved (or sought out to get involved) with our elections.
