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Foo wrote:You know, it is gonna be 92 degrees on Tuesday. Do I wanna wear shorts and flip flops or a black tent that covers me from head to toe. Tough choice! So many of us struggle with this choice. Glad we have choices!

yay. choices. you can choose to force someone else out of choosing to wear a hijab, or you can choose to let them have that choice.

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Is hajib porn a thing? Lol

Of course.

but it's oppressive. and the hijab is meant to be worn for modesty and you don't have the choice to wear it differently than how it was intended within a more muslim controlled culture.

Foo wrote:
He didn't have to shackle himself. We could just send him back to Africa! *man is unable to work, has never been to Africa, and has limited freedom*

He made the choice!

that has really nothing to do with the topic. but it's a fun diversion.

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Is hajib porn a thing? Lol

Of course.

Better have a hole cut out for anal!

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Is hajib porn a thing? Lol

Of course.

but it's oppressive. and the hijab is meant to be worn for modesty and you don't have the choice to wear it differently than how it was intended within a more muslim controlled culture.

Nuns are also easy lays, with breast implants, shaved pussies, and tanned bodies.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Is hajib porn a thing? Lol

Of course.

but it's oppressive. and the hijab is meant to be worn for modesty and you don't have the choice to wear it differently than how it was intended within a more muslim controlled culture.

Nuns are also easy lays, with breast implants, shaved pussies, and tanned bodies.

let's make habits illegal.

Apparently that time after 1AM UK time is Islamophobe o'clock here. Damn.

showa58taro wrote:Apparently that time after 1AM UK time is Islamophobe o'clock here. Damn.

Hehe. However, I admit that I might have some misgivings about why they want their girls covered from head to toe, I do the same with Judaism. Ultra orthodox in which the women are basically second class citizens ain't cool with me. The same goes with American Christians like apostolics....where the women have to wear skirts to their ankles, and cannot cut their hair.

So yeah, I ain't afraid to admit the things that either confuse me or turn me off. Or even seem like bigotry. But, I will also try to seek out answers. If that makes sense. :oops: Me

Jmac Attack wrote:

showa58taro wrote:Apparently that time after 1AM UK time is Islamophobe o'clock here. Damn.

Hehe. However, I admit that I might have some misgivings about why they want their girls covered from head to toe, I do the same with Judaism. Ultra orthodox in which the women are basically second class citizens ain't cool with me. The same goes with American Christians like apostolics....where the women have to wear skirts to their ankles, and cannot cut their hair.

So yeah, I ain't afraid to admit the things that either confuse me or turn me off. Or even seem like bigotry. But, I will also try to seek out answers. If that makes sense. :oops: Me

sure, it's fair to have issues with other cultures and customs. so long as that is within a larger free (or more free) society, then they have the choice to make themselves. it becomes less and less about actual oppression. and more and more solely a symbol and custom of their faith.

and looking for answers is a cool way to go. more information is always good, and i'd like to know what the justification is within a free culture. i would ask her though, specifically.

What are you going to say when he tells you it is because she is a lesser being who must remain covered while he is free to do what he likes?

Btw, if I considered myself a friend to those people, I would probably be bringing up the hijab all the time.

"Damn dude, why do you make your wife wear a tablecloth all the time?"

"Nothing says "I love you" like a new black tent to cover your head and body with..."

Foo wrote:Btw, if I considered myself a friend to those people, I would probably be bringing up the hijab all the time.

"Damn dude, why do you make your wife wear a tablecloth all the time?"

"Nothing says "I love you" like a new black tent to cover your head and body with..."

"i don't want to see you oppressed, but you're forbidden to wear that anymore. now you're free to dress the way you want to."

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Btw, if I considered myself a friend to those people, I would probably be bringing up the hijab all the time.

"Damn dude, why do you make your wife wear a tablecloth all the time?"

"Nothing says "I love you" like a new black tent to cover your head and body with..."

"i don't want to see you oppressed, but you're forbidden to wear that anymore. now you're free to dress the way you want to."

You do understand that those who wear the hijab are not free right?

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Btw, if I considered myself a friend to those people, I would probably be bringing up the hijab all the time.

"Damn dude, why do you make your wife wear a tablecloth all the time?"

"Nothing says "I love you" like a new black tent to cover your head and body with..."

"i don't want to see you oppressed, but you're forbidden to wear that anymore. now you're free to dress the way you want to."

You do understand that those who wear the hijab are not free right?

and those who are forced to stop wearing it, are free. i know.

I have no freedom because I can't walk around with my dick out!

i thought you were arguing that they aren't free. if everyone is not free (for that very silly reason) then they can be not free wearing the hijab, and not free wearing something other than the hijab.

zombie wrote:i thought you were arguing that they aren't free. if everyone is not free (for that very silly reason) then they can be not free wearing the hijab, and not free wearing something other than the hijab.

The point is that society sets standards of dress. To claim in any way that setting a dress standard is somehow a greater restriction than condoning the abuse and oppression of women is absurd. By allowing the hijab, you are assisting the abuse, rather than standing against it.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:i thought you were arguing that they aren't free. if everyone is not free (for that very silly reason) then they can be not free wearing the hijab, and not free wearing something other than the hijab.

The point is that society sets standards of dress. To claim in any way that setting a dress standard is somehow a greater restriction than condoning the abuse and oppression of women is absurd. By allowing the hijab, you are assisting the abuse, rather than standing against it.

if you want a mandatory dress code to be enforced for the nation, that's your call. i'm opposed to that. we live in a country where women are free. if you want to stand against abuse and oppression, support the things that we have in place to protect all women in this country. don't make a restriction, specific to muslim women because it suits your agenda.

the reason that it's oppressive in muslim majority cultures is because it is a law that it be worn. (at least in saudi arabia. i assume that's true of most though?) if you make a law that it not be worn, how is that not effectively doing the same thing? if it's a choice for the woman to make, then it is not oppression anymore.

also, for the sake of clarification, we seem to be using the word "hijab" to encompass all muslim traditional wear, as you keep calling it a tent. so i assume you mean the burqa, with that.