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Jmac Attack wrote:I'm confused. I've never once shit on a foreign film just because it's foreign. I know some people dont like to read while watching films, but other than that, say wut?

Anyway, I already saw someone on facebook saying shit like "fuckin chinks" etc. Those kinds of people are exactly who Trump was talking to. Jesus.

You hit the nail on the head here. It was a dog whistle. Red meat for the retards.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

Would he have made that argument against a French film?

Maybe, maybe not. He definitely wouldn't about any English language film, maybe this is a grey area in Trump's idiot mind.

It really makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in any case.

So now it's linguistics.
If France won instead of South Korea he would've doubled down on the thrashing and used it as a segue to insult Macron.

Lots of whiteys up there in France.

Is Jason now pivoting to a "why do foreign films receive affirmative action" platform

Headhunter wrote:Is Jason now pivoting to a "why do foreign films receive affirmative action" platform

Well, I'll applaud you for following along for maybe two posts in a row. But now you're lost again.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

Would he have made that argument against a French film?

Maybe, maybe not. He definitely wouldn't about any English language film, maybe this is a grey area in Trump's idiot mind.

It really makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in any case.

So now it's linguistics.
If France won instead of South Korea he would've doubled down on the thrashing and used it as a segue to insult Macron.

Lots of whiteys up there in France.

Again, it makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in either case.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Is Jason now pivoting to a "why do foreign films receive affirmative action" platform

Well, I'll applaud you for following along for maybe two posts in a row. But now you're lost again.

You have no business patronizing or talking down to anyone after being a complete dumb fuck in this thread all day.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

Would he have made that argument against a French film?

Maybe, maybe not. He definitely wouldn't about any English language film, maybe this is a grey area in Trump's idiot mind.

It really makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in any case.

So now it's linguistics.
If France won instead of South Korea he would've doubled down on the thrashing and used it as a segue to insult Macron.

Lots of whiteys up there in France.

Again, it makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in either case.

There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture. It's an equally silly argument for me to say that it's xenophobic to create a separate award system for foreign pictures. The "civil union" of award ceremonies. My god, what xenophobia and bigotry displayed by the academy awards, segregating foreign films into their own category. Shame.

See how silly that sounds?

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: There's no case to be made that it's not prejudice and xenophobia. The nationalist spin is also bullshit because as I've mentioned numerous times, there's 0% chance he says this about a British film winning and anyone who tries to argue otherwise is not coming from a place of intellectual honesty.

Would he have made that argument against a French film?

Maybe, maybe not. He definitely wouldn't about any English language film, maybe this is a grey area in Trump's idiot mind.

It really makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in any case.

So now it's linguistics.
If France won instead of South Korea he would've doubled down on the thrashing and used it as a segue to insult Macron.

Lots of whiteys up there in France.

Again, it makes no difference. The foundation of xenophobia is there in either case.

There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture.

Yeah, you're fucking hopeless. I feel bad for you, I honestly do.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Is Jason now pivoting to a "why do foreign films receive affirmative action" platform

Well, I'll applaud you for following along for maybe two posts in a row. But now you're lost again.

You have no business patronizing or talking down to anyone after being a complete dumb fuck in this thread all day.

You get what you give, sir.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture. It's an equally silly argument for me to say that it's xenophobic to create a separate award system for foreign pictures. The "civil union" of award ceremonies. My god, what xenophobia and bigotry displayed by the academy awards, segregating foreign films into their own category. Shame.

See how silly that sounds?

Yeah, you're fucking hopeless. I feel bad for you, I honestly do.

I throw your logic right back at you and you crumble.

Jason wrote:There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture. It's an equally silly argument for me to say that it's xenophobic to create a separate award system for foreign pictures. The "civil union" of award ceremonies. My god, what xenophobia and bigotry displayed by the academy awards, segregating foreign films into their own category. Shame.

See how silly that sounds?

Zomb, will you at least address this post? I'm interested in your take and then I'll leave the thread.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Is Jason now pivoting to a "why do foreign films receive affirmative action" platform

Well, I'll applaud you for following along for maybe two posts in a row. But now you're lost again.

You have no business patronizing or talking down to anyone after being a complete dumb fuck in this thread all day.

You get what you give, sir.

Actually that's never been the case when I've tried to present a serious argument to you. Ever. All you do is mock, troll and belittle things you don't understand. You offer absolutely nothing of value in terms of constructive, serious argument. And you never have. I've enjoyed political discussions with every single member of the board inclined to partake except for you. You can fuck off with equating my contributions to yours, it's not close.

trump parroted sentiments going around among some conservative pundits, that a foreign film doesn't deserve to win best picture, or presumably to even be nominated, because it's a foreign film. you're right actually, it's not racist. it's bigger than that. it's worse.

and none of us have ever argued that way. not even you, until this very thread.

Jason wrote:

Jason wrote:There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture. It's an equally silly argument for me to say that it's xenophobic to create a separate award system for foreign pictures. The "civil union" of award ceremonies. My god, what xenophobia and bigotry displayed by the academy awards, segregating foreign films into their own category. Shame.

See how silly that sounds?

Zomb, will you at least address this post? I'm interested in your take and then I'll leave the thread.

i see best foreign film as a way to honor foreign films and give them exposure that they wouldn't otherwise have, in america. if best picture was "best english language film" then i'd argue all day that parasite shouldn't qualify. but it is a "picture" in this context. so it qualifies to me.

I think it's very probable that the sentiment was in fact racist. That's not as 100% clear as the general bigotry and xenophobia though, which no person can argue.

zombie wrote:trump parroted sentiments going around among some conservative pundits, that a foreign film doesn't deserve to win best picture, or presumably to even be nominated, because it's a foreign film. you're right actually, it's not racist. it's bigger than that. it's worse.

and none of us have ever argued that way. not even you, until this very thread.

I'm not arguing for, or against, whether or not a foreign film should or shouldn't be considered for best picture. I've simply asked why is there even a category for best foreign film if a foreign film is already considered for best picture? Was the category of "best foreign film" not put in to honor foreign films? And to put a different perspective on that, would it not be xenophobic in itself to create a category for best foreign film? Why segregate foreign films?

Just asking questions. I don't understand how Trump jabbing the academy awards can garner this much uproar, especially on this site.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

Jason wrote:There is nothing xenophobic about clowning the academy awards for giving foreign film best picture. It's an equally silly argument for me to say that it's xenophobic to create a separate award system for foreign pictures. The "civil union" of award ceremonies. My god, what xenophobia and bigotry displayed by the academy awards, segregating foreign films into their own category. Shame.

See how silly that sounds?

Zomb, will you at least address this post? I'm interested in your take and then I'll leave the thread.

i see best foreign film as a way to honor foreign films and give them exposure that they wouldn't otherwise have, in america. if best picture was "best english language film" then i'd argue all day that parasite shouldn't qualify. but it is a "picture" in this context. so it qualifies to me.

I might agree entirely with that. But like you said, best foreign picture was put in to give foreign films exposure in America. But when it is considered for best overall picture, wouldn't it almost defeat the purpose of the separate category since it's getting even better exposure by winning the whole shebang?

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:trump parroted sentiments going around among some conservative pundits, that a foreign film doesn't deserve to win best picture, or presumably to even be nominated, because it's a foreign film. you're right actually, it's not racist. it's bigger than that. it's worse.

and none of us have ever argued that way. not even you, until this very thread.

I'm not arguing for, or against, whether or not a foreign film should or shouldn't be considered for best picture. I've simply asked why is there even a category for best foreign film if a foreign film is already considered for best picture? Was the category of "best foreign film" not put in to honor foreign films? And to put a different perspective on that, would it not be xenophobic in itself to create a category for best foreign film? Why segregate foreign films?

Just asking questions. I don't understand how Trump jabbing the academy awards can garner this much uproar, especially on this site.

we're not segregating foreign films. because they are also eligible for best picture. if the academy were to exclude them from nomination as best picture, that may very well be segregation.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:trump parroted sentiments going around among some conservative pundits, that a foreign film doesn't deserve to win best picture, or presumably to even be nominated, because it's a foreign film. you're right actually, it's not racist. it's bigger than that. it's worse.

and none of us have ever argued that way. not even you, until this very thread.

I'm not arguing for, or against, whether or not a foreign film should or shouldn't be considered for best picture. I've simply asked why is there even a category for best foreign film if a foreign film is already considered for best picture? Was the category of "best foreign film" not put in to honor foreign films? And to put a different perspective on that, would it not be xenophobic in itself to create a category for best foreign film? Why segregate foreign films?

Just asking questions. I don't understand how Trump jabbing the academy awards can garner this much uproar, especially on this site.

we're not segregating foreign films. because they are also eligible for best picture. if the academy were to exclude them from nomination as best picture, that may very well be segregation.

This segregation thing is an absurd reach.

Jason wrote:
I might agree entirely with that. But like you said, best foreign picture was put in to give foreign films exposure in America. But when it is considered for best overall picture, wouldn't it almost defeat the purpose of the separate category since it's getting even better exposure by winning the whole shebang?

do you feel this strongly about best animated film vs. their eligibility as best picture too?