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Neither have had some official diagnosis but it’s very obvious Trump’s cognitive abilities are in severe decline.
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showa58taro wrote:Neither have had some official diagnosis but it’s very obvious Trump’s cognitive abilities are in severe decline.
I don’t see how it’s not equally obvious with Biden. Neither can speak coherently anymore but at least The Donald seems generally aware of his surroundings.

Listen to an interview with Biden in 2016, and anything he says in 2020. The change is stunning.
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To me Trump basically sounds the same as he did 20 years ago he uses a very small vocabulary and it makes him sound like an idiot. To me I can see the confusion that is associated with cognitive deterioration in Biden. I voted for Biden in the 2008 democratic primary he was my guy a solid blue collar Democrat.
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I'm quoting this from a medical professional on a Broncos forum for anyone who is curious.
This will be more than you probably want to know, but my hospital is the center of DOD medial research so we’re getting daily email blasts and I have had 3 f-ing meetings on the thing so I feel pretty up to date. Here’s what I know:

Coronaviruses are part of the bag that make up the common cold. COVID19 is mutating fast and now has 2 major haplotypes and dozens of subtypes. This is where a lot of the misinformation is coming from. That and leave it to America to politicize a goddamn plague. H1 which started in wuhan and went west is the most virulent and prevalent. This is what is decimating Italy right now. H2 went south and East and is what we’re getting a taste of in the states. It’s probably on par with a bad flu. There are reports of people carrying both strains so getting the “light version” doesn’t mean you can’t  get the bad one. Since most of the data coming out is on H1 that’s what the rest of this will be on.

 It’s pretty bad. Those that are saying it’s just like the flu are doing a disservice to the populace in an attempt to stabilize the market.

COVID19 is worse because it’s A) super contagious (most have an Ro if 1.4 meaning the average person will infect 1.4 people, so far this thing has an Ro of 2.9) and B) this one seems to hit older folks particularly hard. The average mortality rate is anywhere between 1-2%. Hard to tell because the numbers from China don’t make sense and are untrustworthy. But for people less than 50 it’s on par with a bad seasonal flu, around 0.4% but starting at age 60 it’s 3.5% and it seems to be a linear progression with age peaking with a whopping 20% mortality in people over 80.

Interestingly it seems to hit the part of the lungs that converts angiotensin so if you take an ACE inhibitor for high blood pressure you may be protected from getting the real bad version.

It will probably end up being similar but lighter than the 1918 Spanish flu which had a similar Ro but the mortality was around 4%. That ended up infecting roughly 60% of the world and killing between 20-100M people (there was a little conflict going on in Europe at the time so numbers are not known. It’s known as the Spanish flu because Spain was neutral and the only country reporting reliable numbers).

Given that there are 7 times as many people in the world now if we follow the Ro to estimate ~40% infected and if we go with 1-2% mortality rate (which is halfway between the 2 haplotypes) then quick back of the envelope math says we may end up seeing ~30-60M deaths world wide, mostly baby boomers.

Also like the 1918 flu (the first H1N1 strain) this will probably have a 4-5 year cycle that will be much lighter than the original. But I think we will all be getting coronavirus shots to go with our flu shots in the not to distant future.

So unless this thing suddenly evolves into a less deadly or virulent strain, things could get interesting around here between now and late June (projected worldwide saturation)
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Headhunter wrote:I'm quoting this from a medical professional on a Broncos forum for anyone who is curious.
This will be more than you probably want to know, but my hospital is the center of DOD medial research so we’re getting daily email blasts and I have had 3 f-ing meetings on the thing so I feel pretty up to date. Here’s what I know:

Coronaviruses are part of the bag that make up the common cold. COVID19 is mutating fast and now has 2 major haplotypes and dozens of subtypes. This is where a lot of the misinformation is coming from. That and leave it to America to politicize a goddamn plague. H1 which started in wuhan and went west is the most virulent and prevalent. This is what is decimating Italy right now. H2 went south and East and is what we’re getting a taste of in the states. It’s probably on par with a bad flu. There are reports of people carrying both strains so getting the “light version” doesn’t mean you can’t  get the bad one. Since most of the data coming out is on H1 that’s what the rest of this will be on.

 It’s pretty bad. Those that are saying it’s just like the flu are doing a disservice to the populace in an attempt to stabilize the market.

COVID19 is worse because it’s A) super contagious (most have an Ro if 1.4 meaning the average person will infect 1.4 people, so far this thing has an Ro of 2.9) and B) this one seems to hit older folks particularly hard. The average mortality rate is anywhere between 1-2%. Hard to tell because the numbers from China don’t make sense and are untrustworthy. But for people less than 50 it’s on par with a bad seasonal flu, around 0.4% but starting at age 60 it’s 3.5% and it seems to be a linear progression with age peaking with a whopping 20% mortality in people over 80.

Interestingly it seems to hit the part of the lungs that converts angiotensin so if you take an ACE inhibitor for high blood pressure you may be protected from getting the real bad version.

It will probably end up being similar but lighter than the 1918 Spanish flu which had a similar Ro but the mortality was around 4%. That ended up infecting roughly 60% of the world and killing between 20-100M people (there was a little conflict going on in Europe at the time so numbers are not known. It’s known as the Spanish flu because Spain was neutral and the only country reporting reliable numbers).

Given that there are 7 times as many people in the world now if we follow the Ro to estimate ~40% infected and if we go with 1-2% mortality rate (which is halfway between the 2 haplotypes) then quick back of the envelope math says we may end up seeing ~30-60M deaths world wide, mostly baby boomers.

Also like the 1918 flu (the first H1N1 strain) this will probably have a 4-5 year cycle that will be much lighter than the original. But I think we will all be getting coronavirus shots to go with our flu shots in the not to distant future.

So unless this thing suddenly evolves into a less deadly or virulent strain, things could get interesting around here between now and late June (projected worldwide saturation)
Let's hope this is wrong
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Circling back to our old as fuck presidential candidates, can we at least start nominating people in their 60s, or better yet 50s?

Good fuck, I can’t imagine wanting to do anything productive in my 70s. I might fuck around and get hooked on heroin at that point, my body is going to be a shit show and given the prevalence of Alzheimer’s in my family, I imagine my brain will be apple sauce by then.
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Headhunter wrote:Circling back to our old as fuck presidential candidates, can we at least start nominating people in their 60s, or better yet 50s?

Good fuck, I can’t imagine wanting to do anything productive in my 70s. I might fuck around and get hooked on heroin at that point, my body is going to be a shit show and given the prevalence of Alzheimer’s in my family, I imagine my brain will be apple sauce by then.
Alzheimers is just about standard in my family too
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Trump needs to resign now. He is not capable of handling this situation.
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Europe ban. Very nice. If only Europe had taken precaution from China travel. Fucking China, man...

Emergency action will be taken to provide financial relief for ill workers, anti-viral therapies are rapidly being made available, Trump met with health insurance leaders and they've agreed to waive all co-payments pertaining to the virus.

Liberals using this virus as a springboard to blame Trump for a Chinese flu is pretty disgusting.
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And here’s the Minister of Disinformation!

15 cases, soon to be 0.
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The disrespect in here is fucking disgusting.
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15 cases, soon to be 0.

Right, Baghdad Bob?
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I called this a pandemic more than two weeks ago.
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But how can that be? GOATUS said it’s a hoax and the 15 cases will be close to 0 soon.

Oh, he didn’t have a fucking clue what he was talking about, like always? You don’t say! Now engaging in pointless measures long past the point of pandemic? What a fucking shock. He’s a worthless piece of shit and with whatever dignity he has left, he should resign and never show his face again.
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This is fucking disgusting. I have no spleen, which means I have a far higher likelihood of dying from this than anyone on this site, by far. I stocked up WEEKS ago on food and necessities in preparation for this, fully expecting it to happen. I know a nurse, and she confirmed two cases at a local hospital, but they are avoiding announcing it. And I know it's because people panicking is only going to rise the death toll. I've been on record on this forum talking about this virus. If anyone needs to pay closer attention for health reasons, it's me. If I get an infection caused by this virus, I could be dead within hours. And people on this fucking forum are using this as a springboard to attack me too, not just Trump.
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Fucking disgusting. This board brings out the absolute worst in some people.
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Jason wrote:This is fucking disgusting. I have no spleen, which means I have a far higher likelihood of dying from this than anyone on this site, by far. I stocked up WEEKS ago on food and necessities in preparation for this, fully expecting it to happen. I know a nurse, and she confirmed two cases at a local hospital, but they are avoiding announcing it. And I know it's because people panicking is only going to rise the death toll. I've been on record on this forum talking about this virus. If anyone needs to pay closer attention for health reasons, it's me. If I get an infection caused by this virus, I could be dead within hours. And people on this fucking forum are using this as a springboard to attack me.
What do you mean “attack”? You’re proud to carry water for the Trump administration. Isn’t being his Minister of Information the highest of compliments?

Please understand nothing I say fucking matters, and every fuck up by your precious president’s administration DOES matter.
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Jason wrote:Fucking disgusting. This board brings out the absolute worst in some people.
You came into this thread pumping up our fucking idiot president whose awful “leadership” will lead to a lot of deaths. The fuck do you care about me busting your balls for? Wake the fuck up.
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Headhunter wrote:Please understand nothing I say fucking matters
Thank you.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Please understand nothing I say fucking matters
Thank you.
Don’t thank me, channel your anger in the right direction: at this incompetent administration. The fuck are you losing your shit at me for? I didn’t botch this situation, he did. You can’t spew outrage at me about your livelihood while sucking Trump’s cock. That’s the height of bullshit right there.
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