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Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

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Jason wrote:

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Jason wrote:

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Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:It's stupid and careless but doesn't make him a POS.

Tell me what those 22 arrests were for. Fucking traffic stops. ZERO felony charges.

Sorry, still not a piece of shit.

What? If someone was drinking vodka with a child in the car and collided head on with some dude driving to work killing the child and the other person, are they not a piece of shit? Please don't pretend he cares about others when his behaviors indicate otherwise.

Sorry, driving high is 100x safer than driving drunk.

Annnd holy shit. lol.

Ever driven drunk? Ever driven high? If not, how the hell would you know?

It's pretty well-known that alcohol and marijuana affect everyone differently. Some people drive like saints and blow a .25. Some people drive recklessly and almost kill themselves when they're high. An old friend totaled his car and nearly killed himself, years back because he was smoking marijuana. Told me the story himself.
Did you read my marijuana/chemical imbalance story? It doesn't have equal affects on every person. Therefore, just as dangerous as driving on alcohol. Narcotics, sir.

It's definitely not as dangerous as driving on alcohol or narcotics. Sorry, that point is a non-starter in this convo.

Because you yourself are better driving high than driving drunk? Again, people handle both differently.

If you surveyed 100 people who have driven under both conditions, you'd be lucky to find two people who find driving high more dangerous. There's nothing realistic about that view.

The difference is reflected in the data both Seb and I have posted.

Kinda tough to figure out how x amount of pot compared to x amount of alcohol. Not sure how anything is proven with that.

The one time I drove under the influence of marijuana was terrible compared to the times I drove after having drinks.

More logical to assume you're right when there's no data at all you can possibly manipulate to support your conclusions? Okay. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say I'm right.

Because you ate a damn edible lmao. The effects of edibles are far more unpredictable and intense than smoking weed.

Uhh. I think Foo knows his own body better than you do. Are you calling him a liar? Such blatant disrespectOMG,

Headhunter wrote:You also have zero marijuana tolerance and I assume hadn't used it in years so keep that in mind. I'd be hesitant to let someone who never goes out and drinks drive me home even if I knew they were nowhere near drunk and well below the legal limit.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I could have driven your car and felt fine although it's not an ideal scenario.

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:You also have zero marijuana tolerance and I assume hadn't used it in years so keep that in mind. I'd be hesitant to let someone who never goes out and drinks drive me home even if I knew they were nowhere near drunk and well below the legal limit.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I could have driven your car and felt fine although it's not an ideal scenario.

I have not even been close to being drunk in years. Even on vacation, two drinks in a day would be tops. I drink for the flavor, not the inebriation.

Foo wrote:And I am not gonna smoke anything, sucking any sort of smoke into ones lungs is a bad idea.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Well, booya. You finally admitted the point I was making. Not all experiences are the same. Stop pretending weed is 1000x "safer" to drive under than alcohol. They are equally dangerous overall. One more dangerous than the other, depending on the person. Stop calling Foo a liar. Disrespectful. OMG

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:You also have zero marijuana tolerance and I assume hadn't used it in years so keep that in mind. I'd be hesitant to let someone who never goes out and drinks drive me home even if I knew they were nowhere near drunk and well below the legal limit.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I could have driven your car and felt fine although it's not an ideal scenario.

I have not even been close to being drunk in years. Even on vacation, two drinks in a day would be tops. I drink for the flavor, not the inebriation.

So why even compare to the times you drove after drinking if you didn't feel at all inebriated?

ALSO...what do you drink?

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:You also have zero marijuana tolerance and I assume hadn't used it in years so keep that in mind. I'd be hesitant to let someone who never goes out and drinks drive me home even if I knew they were nowhere near drunk and well below the legal limit.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I could have driven your car and felt fine although it's not an ideal scenario.

I have not even been close to being drunk in years. Even on vacation, two drinks in a day would be tops. I drink for the flavor, not the inebriation.

So why even compare to the times you drove after drinking if you didn't feel at all inebriated?

ALSO...what do you drink?

I am sure you have no trouble comparing the times you were drunk as a skunk to the times you were slightly buzzed on weed to prove your point about the relative safety. I enjoy sobriety and clarity, so comparing times I am fall down drunk to times I am passed out stoned is gonna be difficult.

Anything really. If someone recommends a drink with a meal, I will have that. Could be beer, tequila, mixed drink, girly drink, or whatever. Not very fond of most wine though.

Foo wrote:And on weed, when we know of someone using, why aren't we always asking about why they are doing so to address the real problems? To me, using a mood altering drug recreationally raises the same red flags as a person popping OxyContin.

Foo wrote:And on weed, when we know of someone using, why aren't we always asking about why they are doing so to address the real problems? To me, using a mood altering drug recreationally raises the same red flags as a person popping OxyContin.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Well, booya. You finally admitted the point I was making. Not all experiences are the same. Stop pretending weed is 1000x "safer" to drive under than alcohol. They are equally dangerous overall. One more dangerous than the other, depending on the person. Stop calling Foo a liar. Disrespectful. OMG

It's almost like people can have their own unique experiences based on a number of parameters including drug tolerance and it's still also true that all things equal weed is 1000x safer to drive under. How you "feel" based on a friend's story does not mean a thing in reality. Data is much more relevant.

Again, get over that I called you out. No one cares, least of all me.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Well, booya. You finally admitted the point I was making. Not all experiences are the same. Stop pretending weed is 1000x "safer" to drive under than alcohol. They are equally dangerous overall. One more dangerous than the other, depending on the person. Stop calling Foo a liar. Disrespectful. OMG

It's almost like people can have their own unique experiences based on a number of parameters including drug tolerance and it's still also true that all things equal weed is 1000x safer to drive under. How you "feel" based on a friend's story does not mean a thing in reality. Data is much more relevant.

Again, get over that I called you out. No one cares, least of all me.

I'm not trying to push buttons, but you've said yourself on multiple occasions that you do not trust yourself with alcohol. It is just different with every body. Some people prefer one to the other. Some people can handle one over the other better. Some people are more prone to getting addicted over one than the other. You prefer marijuana, that is no secret. But there are other people like you who will make the exact same argument about alcohol over marijuana.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Well, booya. You finally admitted the point I was making. Not all experiences are the same. Stop pretending weed is 1000x "safer" to drive under than alcohol. They are equally dangerous overall. One more dangerous than the other, depending on the person. Stop calling Foo a liar. Disrespectful. OMG

It's almost like people can have their own unique experiences based on a number of parameters including drug tolerance and it's still also true that all things equal weed is 1000x safer to drive under. How you "feel" based on a friend's story does not mean a thing in reality. Data is much more relevant.

Again, get over that I called you out. No one cares, least of all me.

I'm not trying to push buttons, but you've said yourself on multiple occasions that you do not trust yourself with alcohol. It is just different with every body. Some people prefer one to the other. Some people can handle one over the other better. Some people are more prone to getting addicted over one than the other. You prefer marijuana, that is no secret. But there are other people like you who will make the exact same argument about alcohol over marijuana.

Their argument is false though. Alcohol is a far more dangerous substance. I can smoke all the weed in my house right now and just get a great night's sleep. What would happen if you drank all the alcohol in your house right now?

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:You also have zero marijuana tolerance and I assume hadn't used it in years so keep that in mind. I'd be hesitant to let someone who never goes out and drinks drive me home even if I knew they were nowhere near drunk and well below the legal limit.

In all honesty, I'm pretty sure I could have driven your car and felt fine although it's not an ideal scenario.

I have not even been close to being drunk in years. Even on vacation, two drinks in a day would be tops. I drink for the flavor, not the inebriation.

So why even compare to the times you drove after drinking if you didn't feel at all inebriated?

ALSO...what do you drink?

I am sure you have no trouble comparing the times you were drunk as a skunk to the times you were slightly buzzed on weed to prove your point about the relative safety. I enjoy sobriety and clarity, so comparing times I am fall down drunk to times I am passed out stoned is gonna be difficult.

Anything really. If someone recommends a drink with a meal, I will have that. Could be beer, tequila, mixed drink, girly drink, or whatever. Not very fond of most wine though.

I've been as drunk as you can be and as high as you can be. If you want to compare the relative safety of those two things, yeah it's not close and not a good look for alcohol. You'd have to smoke a physically impossible amount of THC to overdose on weed, alcohol poisoning can always be just a couple shots away if you party too hard.

I never got into wine either, just gave me headaches. Ever drink IPA beers? Sierra Nevada torpedo, Stone, Lagunitas etc.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:Everyone can have their own personal experiences that differs from the consensus.

Well, booya. You finally admitted the point I was making. Not all experiences are the same. Stop pretending weed is 1000x "safer" to drive under than alcohol. They are equally dangerous overall. One more dangerous than the other, depending on the person. Stop calling Foo a liar. Disrespectful. OMG

It's almost like people can have their own unique experiences based on a number of parameters including drug tolerance and it's still also true that all things equal weed is 1000x safer to drive under. How you "feel" based on a friend's story does not mean a thing in reality. Data is much more relevant.

Again, get over that I called you out. No one cares, least of all me.

I'm not trying to push buttons, but you've said yourself on multiple occasions that you do not trust yourself with alcohol. It is just different with every body. Some people prefer one to the other. Some people can handle one over the other better. Some people are more prone to getting addicted over one than the other. You prefer marijuana, that is no secret. But there are other people like you who will make the exact same argument about alcohol over marijuana.

Their argument is false though. Alcohol is a far more dangerous substance. I can smoke all the weed in my house right now and just get a great night's sleep. What would happen if you drank all the alcohol in your house right now?

That's the closed-mindedness I'm talking about. "Their argument is false" because you want it to be or refuse to believe it. Marijuana literally caused a chemical imbalance in someone's brain that I know personally and nearly drove her insane. Maybe we don't know as much about marijuana as everyone pretends to.

If I drank all the alcohol in my house I would get a tiny buzz. I've got like 4 shots of Devil's Cut left.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:And on weed, when we know of someone using, why aren't we always asking about why they are doing so to address the real problems? To me, using a mood altering drug recreationally raises the same red flags as a person popping OxyContin.

do you ask your friends who drink, why they do it?

i suspect it's because they like the way they feel under the influence of it. and i would feel nosy prying about it. unless it was actually noticeably harmful to them in some way.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:And on weed, when we know of someone using, why aren't we always asking about why they are doing so to address the real problems? To me, using a mood altering drug recreationally raises the same red flags as a person popping OxyContin.

do you ask your friends who drink, why they do it?

i suspect it's because they like the way they feel under the influence of it. and i would feel nosy prying about it. unless it was actually noticeably harmful to them in some way.

No, but I usually disassociate with them. It is not necessarily me judging them, it is just not a lifestyle I wish to pursue.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:And on weed, when we know of someone using, why aren't we always asking about why they are doing so to address the real problems? To me, using a mood altering drug recreationally raises the same red flags as a person popping OxyContin.

Really, you're as concerned with me smoking at home as you would be if I announced I was gonna buy a script of Oxys? That stuff is just lab-made heroin. Unlike weed, it's physically addicting.