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Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:again, eating bats has been linked to sars and to ebolavirus. people are still eating bats, and we got through those. take similar steps, here!

There is a chance that Covid mutates and turns into a virus that can wipe out 50% of the Earth's population. I'd rather not play with fire, here.

people in america are already playing with fire. coming on national tv to give bad medical advice. going to mass gatherings at churches because they are "covered in the blood of christ". etc.

i don't have all the answers. maybe you do.

Who gave bad medical advice?

i guess i should have said unproven medial advice, for this particular virus.

Who said what? Can you clarify?

i don't want to. because it's going to become about the person rather than about giving unproven medical advice on national tv.

Ok, what unproven advice?

advice about using an existing medication that is unverified in regard to effectiveness against the coronavirus.

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:again, eating bats has been linked to sars and to ebolavirus. people are still eating bats, and we got through those. take similar steps, here!

There is a chance that Covid mutates and turns into a virus that can wipe out 50% of the Earth's population. I'd rather not play with fire, here.

people in america are already playing with fire. coming on national tv to give bad medical advice. going to mass gatherings at churches because they are "covered in the blood of christ". etc.

i don't have all the answers. maybe you do.

Who gave bad medical advice?

i guess i should have said unproven medial advice, for this particular virus.

Who said what? Can you clarify?

Trump and Fox and Rudy keep pushing malaria medication for Coronavirus without it being proven effective and with some dying from those medications and suffering from side effects.

Are you talking about the person who drank fish tank cleaner?

Fish tank cleaner is not a medication.

No, although that one is on Trump as well. These are potent drugs that cause adverse effects. So to answer Trumps dumbest of dumb comments “what have you got to lose” the answer is quite a lot.

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much. There’s been a large number of novel viruses of various origins often going through an additional host animal (such as Civets or Camels or pigs) or directly from bats. Novel viruses are not going to stop if you stop eating bats, a thing eaten in many countries. And if not by that, a virus like this would spread anyway because of how good it is at being transmitted across species. The goal should be to find better controls, vaccines, testing and medical treatments. Not worry about getting to bash Chinese people b

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

so then why has it not verified and going into widespread use?

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much.

Oh, dear.

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much. There’s been a large number of novel viruses of various origins often going through an additional host animal (such as Civets or Camels or pigs) or directly from bats. Novel viruses are not going to stop if you stop eating bats, a thing eaten in many countries. And if not by that, a virus like this would spread anyway because of how good it is at being transmitted across species. The goal should be to find better controls, vaccines, testing and medical treatments. Not worry about getting to bash Chinese people b

i agree, absolutely, that it should not be about bashing chinese people.

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

No it’s not. It’s a terrible thing to have out there. The fantastic test Trump refers to which is where this originated had 0% die in the non-treatment group whereas one died, 3 had more severe reactions and one left the study due to side effects. Those 5 (15% of the study population) are excluded from the study. This needs actual randomized double blind testing and results validated and confirmed. As is, these bullshit anecdotes will get people panicked, hospitalized or killed.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

so then why has it not verified and going into widespread use?

Because it’s science, it needs tests and more tests.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

so then why has it not verified and going into widespread use?

It's verified already. The doctor went on to say that it should only be used on those who are very sick with the coronavirus, not those who have it mildly, because they don't want to blow through their supply of the drug. That's how effective hydroxychloroquine is at combating this virus. It is an extremely promising drug. Every patient of his was very ill, and within 8-12 hours of hydroxychloroquine+zinc, they were symptom free. That is unbelievably great news.

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much. There’s been a large number of novel viruses of various origins often going through an additional host animal (such as Civets or Camels or pigs) or directly from bats. Novel viruses are not going to stop if you stop eating bats, a thing eaten in many countries. And if not by that, a virus like this would spread anyway because of how good it is at being transmitted across species. The goal should be to find better controls, vaccines, testing and medical treatments. Not worry about getting to bash Chinese people b

i agree, absolutely, that it should not be about bashing chinese people.

And yet that’s where Jason has gone.

I know someone who takes hydroxychloroquine and found last week that the pharmacy was out of it. So there are adverse effects to Trump irresponsibly peddling the stuff.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

so then why has it not verified and going into widespread use?

It's verified already. The doctor went on to say that it should only be used on those who are very sick with the coronavirus, not those who have it mildly, because they don't want to blow through their supply of the drug. That's how effective hydroxychloroquine is at combating this virus. It is an extremely promising drug. Every patient of his was very ill, and within 8-12 hours of hydroxychloroquine+zinc, they were symptom free. That is unbelievably great news.

if it was verified to work against the coronavirus. it would be produced and prescribed nationwide, right?

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much. There’s been a large number of novel viruses of various origins often going through an additional host animal (such as Civets or Camels or pigs) or directly from bats. Novel viruses are not going to stop if you stop eating bats, a thing eaten in many countries. And if not by that, a virus like this would spread anyway because of how good it is at being transmitted across species. The goal should be to find better controls, vaccines, testing and medical treatments. Not worry about getting to bash Chinese people b

i agree, absolutely, that it should not be about bashing chinese people.

And yet that’s where Jason has gone.

and i already called that out.

Headhunter wrote:I know someone who takes hydroxychloroquine and found last week that the pharmacy was out of it. So there are adverse effects to Trump irresponsibly peddling the stuff.

Yup. People will die and he won’t give a fuck he caused it.

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

No it’s not. It’s a terrible thing to have out there. The fantastic test Trump refers to which is where this originated had 0% die in the non-treatment group whereas one died, 3 had more severe reactions and one left the study due to side effects. Those 5 (15% of the study population) are excluded from the study. This needs actual randomized double blind testing and results validated and confirmed. As is, these bullshit anecdotes will get people panicked, hospitalized or killed.

Remember when I would joke around and say Trump could cure cancer and people would find a way to dismiss it? Trump opening the eyes of the medical world to hydroxychloroquine fighting off the coronavirus is probably the closest thing we're gonna get to that. Medical doctors are swearing by hydroxychloroquine in correlation with a zinc supplement, and people are shitting on it because Orange Man Bad said it first.

These are dangerous times, indeed. I would've instantly become an Obama fan if the roles were reversed. Being stubborn in this pandemic is an awful mindset right now.

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:"The hydroxychloroquine opens up a zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery. Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very I'll. Within 8-12 hours, they were basically symptom free"

- Anthony Cardillo, ER Specialist & CEO, MEND Urgent Care




That's a pretty promising endorsement of this medication from a certified medical professional with a 100% success rate on all of his patients to combat coronavirus.

No it’s not. It’s a terrible thing to have out there. The fantastic test Trump refers to which is where this originated had 0% die in the non-treatment group whereas one died, 3 had more severe reactions and one left the study due to side effects. Those 5 (15% of the study population) are excluded from the study. This needs actual randomized double blind testing and results validated and confirmed. As is, these bullshit anecdotes will get people panicked, hospitalized or killed.

Remember when I would joke around and say Trump could cure cancer and people would find a way to dismiss it? Trump opening the eyes of the medical world to hydroxychloroquine fighting off the coronavirus is probably the closest thing we're gonna get to that. Medical doctors are swearing by hydroxychloroquine in correlation with a zinc supplement, and people are shitting on it because Orange Man Bad said it first.

These are dangerous times, indeed. I would've instantly become an Obama fan if the roles were reversed. Being stubborn in this pandemic is an awful mindset right now.

be careful not to disrespect people politically, with dismissing their opinion and telling them what they think.

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:China isnt just spreading the disease, they are actively creating them by eating bats and road kill. The flu exists and is a seasonal thing because of China.

what would you do about it?

To solve Jason’s fictitious problem? Dunno, magic fairy dust?

so, the eating bat stuff is just conspiracy nut kind of thing?

Pretty much. There’s been a large number of novel viruses of various origins often going through an additional host animal (such as Civets or Camels or pigs) or directly from bats. Novel viruses are not going to stop if you stop eating bats, a thing eaten in many countries. And if not by that, a virus like this would spread anyway because of how good it is at being transmitted across species. The goal should be to find better controls, vaccines, testing and medical treatments. Not worry about getting to bash Chinese people b

i agree, absolutely, that it should not be about bashing chinese people.

And yet that’s where Jason has gone.

I am bashing the Chinese government. Close the wet markets and our loved ones won't have to get sick and die. Or walk into the grocery stores with hazmat suits all fucking Spring. China is 100% to blame.

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I know someone who takes hydroxychloroquine and found last week that the pharmacy was out of it. So there are adverse effects to Trump irresponsibly peddling the stuff.

Yup. People will die and he won’t give a fuck he caused it.

He clearly owns stock in the company producing the shit. That seems obvious, right?