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Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

The Democrats have not gone super left. They undermine candidates who aren’t center-right.

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

The modern Dems really aren’t far from what Republican Party used to be before Reagan. The left has been irrelevant in US politics for more than 50 years.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

The Democrats have not gone super left. They undermine candidates who aren’t center-right.

Than why did Abe Simpson win so many states and win the nomination. Trump won because he was the middle can't believe you all have not caught on yet

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

The Democrats have not gone super left. They undermine candidates who aren’t center-right.

Than why did Abe Simpson win so many states and win the nomination. Trump won because he was the middle can't believe you all have not caught on yet

The entire spectrum is on the right. Modern Democrats are center-right. They are what Republicans used to be. There is no left in any meaningful sense. Born in 1929, died in 1968. Both parties are war-hungry corporate whores.

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

Oh, Trump will get four more years, no doubt. The Democrats are a bunch of losers who exist in a self-congratulatory bubble.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

The Democrats have not gone super left. They undermine candidates who aren’t center-right.

Than why did Abe Simpson win so many states and win the nomination. Trump won because he was the middle can't believe you all have not caught on yet

The entire spectrum is on the right. Modern Democrats are center-right. They are what Republicans used to be. There is no left in any meaningful sense. Born in 1929, died in 1968. Both parties are war-hungry corporate whores.

The majority of Americans are center left center right it's just fact so they will never buy into what the new left is and that is also fact

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:What a shit show. This feels worse than Clinton Vs. Trump somehow.

Democrats had three years to figure out how to beat Trump and they landed on a guy who gets lost mid-sentence. It's kind of insulting that they expect voters to fall in line with this.

Really because the democrats bailed on there voter base and went super left alienating the entire base.

The Democrats have not gone super left. They undermine candidates who aren’t center-right.

Than why did Abe Simpson win so many states and win the nomination. Trump won because he was the middle can't believe you all have not caught on yet

The entire spectrum is on the right. Modern Democrats are center-right. They are what Republicans used to be. There is no left in any meaningful sense. Born in 1929, died in 1968. Both parties are war-hungry corporate whores.

The majority of Americans are center left center right it's just fact so they will never buy into what the new left is and that is also fact

The “new left” is like 5 people in Congress. They will never matter so long as Goldman Sachs runs the country.

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Lol, please. The DNC cut deals with everyone to get behind Biden once Sanders became the favorite. That’s politics. The DNC would rather have a Trump presidency than a Sanders presidency, which is why they have no shame about rallying behind a dementia-ridden old creep. Goldman Sachs, Chase, Citibank and Big Pharma are what count, not voters.

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Voters do not buy into or like the pc nonsense or the potential socialist themes of the Democrat platform they may win congressional seats but never a president

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Lol, please. The DNC cut deals with everyone to get behind Biden once Sanders became the favorite. That’s politics. The DNC would rather have a Trump presidency than a Sanders presidency, which is why they have no shame about rallying behind a dementia-ridden old creep. Goldman Sachs, Chase, Citibank and Big Pharma are what count, not voters.

That sounds pretty far fetched to me. Seen no evidence of anything like it short of maybe Jihgy’s Facebook feed. It’s fiction. States hold primaries, people vote, votes decide who wins.

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Voters do not buy into or like the pc nonsense or the potential socialist themes of the Democrat platform they may win congressional seats but never a president

Yes, people in the US have been trained to understand that any government programs = socialism which = communism which = evil but that isn’t anything to be proud of as a country. Bernie was clearly the most popular candidate of the field. Joe Biden is the “ugh, I guess” candidate for everyone who supported a non-Bernie candidate, because their candidates all cut deals with the DNC to support Biden.

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Lol, please. The DNC cut deals with everyone to get behind Biden once Sanders became the favorite. That’s politics. The DNC would rather have a Trump presidency than a Sanders presidency, which is why they have no shame about rallying behind a dementia-ridden old creep. Goldman Sachs, Chase, Citibank and Big Pharma are what count, not voters.

That sounds pretty far fetched to me. Seen no evidence of anything like it short of maybe Jihgy’s Facebook feed. It’s fiction. States hold primaries, people vote, votes decide who wins.

It sounds far fetched that candidates cut deals with each other for support? Have you ever followed politics or understood human beings? Give me a break with that.

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Voters do not buy into or like the pc nonsense or the potential socialist themes of the Democrat platform they may win congressional seats but never a president

Yes, people in the US have been trained to understand that any government programs = socialism which = communism which = evil but that isn’t anything to be proud of as a country. Bernie was clearly the most popular candidate of the field. Joe Biden is the “ugh, I guess” candidate for everyone who supported a non-Bernie candidate, because their candidates all cut deals with the DNC to support Biden.

Disagree. That's a cop out Bernie was big on the Internet most people don't make decisions from the internet.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

showa58taro wrote:You don’t have to fall in line. You know how this works. You live with the consequences.

The Democrats clearly don’t care.

They got to vote in a primary same as every year. Everyone did. Young people who wanted Bernie or Warren showed up in low numbers. Older people in higher. Enough people want the safe bland oatmeal version of a candidate this time around. It’s a choice that at least has shown interest in taking on ideas from those candidates who were in the primary and has a pragmatist streak to his politics. But if the fact that he’s not exciting is an issue then stay home, vote Libertarian or Socialist or Vermin Supreme. Enough people do that and maybe Trump gets four more years. Then you get to live in that country. If that’s fine for you then Democracy yet again wins.

The entire apparatus of the party consolidated to make a dementia-ridden old creep the candidate. They don’t care.

There’s no party apparatus that matters here. It’s primary voting and voters decide. It’s about as boring a process as you can get.

Voters do not buy into or like the pc nonsense or the potential socialist themes of the Democrat platform they may win congressional seats but never a president

Yes, people in the US have been trained to understand that any government programs = socialism which = communism which = evil but that isn’t anything to be proud of as a country. Bernie was clearly the most popular candidate of the field. Joe Biden is the “ugh, I guess” candidate for everyone who supported a non-Bernie candidate, because their candidates all cut deals with the DNC to support Biden.

Disagree. That's a cop out Bernie was big on the Internet most people don't make decisions from the internet.

Short memory. Bernie was well ahead of the field in delegates until every other candidate but Warren (who would split the left vote) dropped out and supported Biden. Bernie steamrolled through Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada. That has nothing to do with the internet, these are actual results from people voting in real life. Then the DNC got to work.