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Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:49 am
by showa58taro
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:55 am
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.
yeah, the voters will get the blame for not voting a lemon. like i said.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:14 pm
by showa58taro
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.
yeah, the voters will get the blame for not voting a lemon. like i said.
But the DNC bit is absurd. This year had sone 20+ candidates from every political hone imaginable in the democratic field. If people wanted something else there was every chance to get that. It’s not the DNC who need to pick better anything. Voters now face the choice between Biden and Trump. And if you can live with Trump then don’t vote Biden. And vice versa. And then you get to live in that country for the next 4 years. It’s irrelevant what ideal or non-Lemon would’ve looked like. You forfeited better choices and now you get one of two outcomes and you decide which matters.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:18 pm
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.
yeah, the voters will get the blame for not voting a lemon. like i said.
But the DNC bit is absurd. This year had sone 20+ candidates from every political hone imaginable in the democratic field. If people wanted something else there was every chance to get that. It’s not the DNC who need to pick better anything. Voters now face the choice between Biden and Trump. And if you can live with Trump then don’t vote Biden. And vice versa. And then you get to live in that country for the next 4 years. It’s irrelevant what ideal or non-Lemon would’ve looked like. You forfeited better choices and now you get one of two outcomes and you decide which matters.
we're screwed either way. so be it.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:49 pm
by showa58taro
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.
yeah, the voters will get the blame for not voting a lemon. like i said.
But the DNC bit is absurd. This year had sone 20+ candidates from every political hone imaginable in the democratic field. If people wanted something else there was every chance to get that. It’s not the DNC who need to pick better anything. Voters now face the choice between Biden and Trump. And if you can live with Trump then don’t vote Biden. And vice versa. And then you get to live in that country for the next 4 years. It’s irrelevant what ideal or non-Lemon would’ve looked like. You forfeited better choices and now you get one of two outcomes and you decide which matters.
we're screwed either way. so be it.
Not to me, I think you can go with a return to normalcy that won’t light the world on fire and won’t last 8 (or even 4 perhaps) years or continued insanity that will ruin you. Definitely different shades.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:07 pm
by zombie
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
No. Not this. It’s not up to the DNC to find anything.
yeah, the voters will get the blame for not voting a lemon. like i said.
But the DNC bit is absurd. This year had sone 20+ candidates from every political hone imaginable in the democratic field. If people wanted something else there was every chance to get that. It’s not the DNC who need to pick better anything. Voters now face the choice between Biden and Trump. And if you can live with Trump then don’t vote Biden. And vice versa. And then you get to live in that country for the next 4 years. It’s irrelevant what ideal or non-Lemon would’ve looked like. You forfeited better choices and now you get one of two outcomes and you decide which matters.
we're screwed either way. so be it.
Not to me, I think you can go with a return to normalcy that won’t light the world on fire and won’t last 8 (or even 4 perhaps) years or continued insanity that will ruin you. Definitely different shades.
not to you. sure. but we have to live with it, here.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:57 pm
by Headhunter
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
Biden is capable of leading. He’s shown more leadership during this pandemic than the entire federal government because they are inept bullshit merchants. And he has no power right now.
Biden is not capable of tying his shoes.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:14 pm
by showa58taro
Headhunter wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:
zombie wrote:
showa58taro wrote:but if Bernie appealed to more people and ran a better campaign then he’d be the guy.
and if biden appeals to more people than trump, and looks like he actually is capable of leading, then he'll be the guy. then he'll get the votes.
100%. That’s democracy.
so it's up to the dnc to find and support better candidates, or at least make the ones they do have appealing to the voters. but the voters are going to get the blame for not voting someone who looks like he's incapable of leading.
Biden is capable of leading. He’s shown more leadership during this pandemic than the entire federal government because they are inept bullshit merchants. And he has no power right now.
Biden is not capable of tying his shoes.
The one thing I trust Biden to do is not surround himself with sycophant assclowns who bow to his every whim to be a God-king. That is the one thing he will do which will make him better. Trump literally can’t close an umbrella or make a coherent sentence so it’s not like that’s any better. But nobody will tell him he’s an idiot.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:38 am
by Jmac Attack
Now Trump is trying to fight governors. Yup....he says he has total power to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Fucking dumbass. That's our great leader folks. He has no idea what our constitution is.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:59 pm
by showa58taro
Patrick Chovanec put it best. Trump says he has all the power, but also none of the responsibility. Must be nice.


Great line.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:10 pm
by Jason
Jmac Attack wrote:Now Trump is trying to fight governors. Yup....he says he has total power to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. Fucking dumbass. That's our great leader folks. He has no idea what our constitution is.
showa58taro wrote:Patrick Chovanec put it best. Trump says he has all the power, but also none of the responsibility. Must be nice.

Great line.

Annnnd here's what he actually said...

"For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect. It is the decision of the President, and for many good reasons. With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!"

- President Trump




Thanks again for being wickedly disingenuous, guys. The lengths you'll go to in order to justified your weird obsession with hating him is astounding.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:39 pm
by Jmac Attack
Well smack my ass and call me weirdly obsessed-

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fox-news-anc ... 36120.html

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:43 pm
by Jason
I won't smack your ass because no homo, but I'll continue to say you guys are weirdly obsessed... Also... Nice pivot there, J-Mac. Trump literally addressed this in the actual quote. Fake News media misrepresenting and spreading false narratives. Then you post the exact shit Trump is talking about to try to justify the argument. Lol.

Read the God damn quote and stop listening to third party media outlets interpreting words for you. You guys are grown ups, you can do it! Read the actual quote! I'm willing to discuss with you all what he said with the actual quote, and how YOU interpret it... not willing to discuss how someone else's biased twist of words makes you feel about it. Seek genuinity, not justification for bias.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:48 pm
by zombie
i do not know the context around it, but trump did say that his "authority is total". that may be where jmac and seb are coming from, but again i don't know the context really.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:50 pm
by Jmac Attack
zombie wrote:i do not know the context around it, but trump did say that his "authority is total". that may be where jmac and seb are coming from, but again i don't know the context really.
Winner winner chicken dinner. Mang. :P

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:51 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:i do not know the context around it, but trump did say that his "authority is total". that may be where jmac and seb are coming from, but again i don't know the context really.
Just reading his quote is all that needs to be done. Neither of them did, obviously. Do you have a thought on his actual quote that you want to address? Or are you just indifferent? I thought it was a perfectly ok thing to say.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:52 pm
by Jmac Attack
"When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total."- Donald Trump

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:52 pm
by Jason
Jmac Attack wrote:
zombie wrote:i do not know the context around it, but trump did say that his "authority is total". that may be where jmac and seb are coming from, but again i don't know the context really.
Winner winner chicken dinner. Mang. :P
Oh how conveniently ignored...

"With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!"

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:54 pm
by Jmac Attack
Jason wrote:
Jmac Attack wrote:
zombie wrote:i do not know the context around it, but trump did say that his "authority is total". that may be where jmac and seb are coming from, but again i don't know the context really.
Winner winner chicken dinner. Mang. :P
Oh how conveniently ignored...

"With that being said, the Administration and I are working closely with the Governors, and this will continue. A decision by me, in conjunction with the Governors and input from others, will be made shortly!"
Look above!

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:54 pm
by Jason
Trump is the least authoritative president we've had in all of our lifetimes. The fact you're pissing about this fully shows your bias and why the News & Politics board is a total shitshow.