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Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:50 pm
by Foo
Here is a thought. Maybe they should be invited before they start their protest? Maybe they should consider the tone of the invitation? Maybe they should consider what is going on at that moment?

I am not sure why a potential White House invite is political at all. As a league champion of one of our premier national sports, you are invited to the nations capital by the president. It is not like a campaign rally. People should show some class.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:59 pm
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:When Brandon Marshall was doing the Kaepernickel, what did he do? He actually went to local police and engaged in conversation with them etc. I don't think Jason's fantasy is true at all because I think he would actually go to have a conversation with Trump. But you're right, it's politics, within the sports realm. Talking about Brandon Marshall and Kaepernickel would be lost on most in the politics forum.
I don't see why it would be lost one anyone, they're football players...that's about all there is to say I'd think.

I mean the Warriors play in shitass Oakland. They are the community role models already, what they do for the people there makes a far bigger measurable impact than chatting with Trump. Obviously food drives aren't gonna make national headlines or anything though.
So why not go? Nothing to lose.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:04 pm
by Headhunter
This is no different from the NBA moving its All Star Game out of North Carolina due to the bathroom laws. The NBA has long encouraged its members to openly celebrate and support liberal politics from the top down. All 30 teams would have done the same.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:09 pm
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:When Brandon Marshall was doing the Kaepernickel, what did he do? He actually went to local police and engaged in conversation with them etc. I don't think Jason's fantasy is true at all because I think he would actually go to have a conversation with Trump. But you're right, it's politics, within the sports realm. Talking about Brandon Marshall and Kaepernickel would be lost on most in the politics forum.
I don't see why it would be lost one anyone, they're football players...that's about all there is to say I'd think.

I mean the Warriors play in shitass Oakland. They are the community role models already, what they do for the people there makes a far bigger measurable impact than chatting with Trump. Obviously food drives aren't gonna make national headlines or anything though.
So why not go? Nothing to lose.
Your fanbase largely hates the administration? Regardless of how you guys feel, a lot of minority groups think the administration has emboldened prejudice and the NBA is the most popular of the big four sports among non-whites. Imagine having that perspective, for however much you can't understand it/think it's BS, and seeing your idols and heroes mixing it up with them? It's a pact of solidarity with communities who feel disenfranchised, that's it.

And none of that is my analysis, I'm telling you why they wouldn't want to.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:11 pm
by Foo
As role models, showing some class would send the message that the Bay Area needs.

I am sure you guys would be shocked to learn of some of the events my business has participated in. If you are invited and can go, you go likevthe champion you are and send a positive message about listening, learning, and showing respect.

These protests send the wrong messages to kids, the kind of messages that cause kids to struggle in life and school.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:15 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:When Brandon Marshall was doing the Kaepernickel, what did he do? He actually went to local police and engaged in conversation with them etc. I don't think Jason's fantasy is true at all because I think he would actually go to have a conversation with Trump. But you're right, it's politics, within the sports realm. Talking about Brandon Marshall and Kaepernickel would be lost on most in the politics forum.
I don't see why it would be lost one anyone, they're football players...that's about all there is to say I'd think.

I mean the Warriors play in shitass Oakland. They are the community role models already, what they do for the people there makes a far bigger measurable impact than chatting with Trump. Obviously food drives aren't gonna make national headlines or anything though.
So why not go? Nothing to lose.
Your fanbase largely hates the administration? Regardless of how you guys feel, a lot of minority groups think the administration has emboldened prejudice and the NBA is the most popular of the big four sports among non-whites. Imagine having that perspective, for however much you can't understand it/think it's BS, and seeing your idols and heroes mixing it up with them? It's a pact of solidarity with communities who feel disenfranchised, that's it.

And none of that is my analysis, I'm telling you why they wouldn't want to.
Should the Warriors also not do events with police? Is it more helpful for Steph Curry to be with Oakland police on events, or to snub police events?

I would argue that area does not need Anti-authority messages.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:18 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:When Brandon Marshall was doing the Kaepernickel, what did he do? He actually went to local police and engaged in conversation with them etc. I don't think Jason's fantasy is true at all because I think he would actually go to have a conversation with Trump. But you're right, it's politics, within the sports realm. Talking about Brandon Marshall and Kaepernickel would be lost on most in the politics forum.
I don't see why it would be lost one anyone, they're football players...that's about all there is to say I'd think.

I mean the Warriors play in shitass Oakland. They are the community role models already, what they do for the people there makes a far bigger measurable impact than chatting with Trump. Obviously food drives aren't gonna make national headlines or anything though.
So why not go? Nothing to lose.
Your fanbase largely hates the administration? Regardless of how you guys feel, a lot of minority groups think the administration has emboldened prejudice and the NBA is the most popular of the big four sports among non-whites. Imagine having that perspective, for however much you can't understand it/think it's BS, and seeing your idols and heroes mixing it up with them? It's a pact of solidarity with communities who feel disenfranchised, that's it.

And none of that is my analysis, I'm telling you why they wouldn't want to.
Should the Warriors also not do events with police? Is it more helpful for Steph Curry to be with Oakland police on events, or to snub police events?

I would argue that area does not need Anti-authority messages.
You are the one escalating the message, not them. I'm sure they support responsible policing.

It would be more helpful for him to show up to those events, especially if it's publicly known that he snubbed them which is not a good look. The NFL anthem kneelers all spent time with police/did events/ride-alongs, so for as much shit as they got the reaction to straight up disrespecting police would not be good.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:31 pm
by Headhunter
I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:36 pm
by Jason
You fags thought I was serious about Marshall? Lol. How long have you known me? 15 years or something?

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:38 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:You fags thought I was serious about Marshall? Lol. How long have you known me? 15 years or something?
Oh I didn't think you were serious, it was just very gay.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:41 pm
by Headhunter
The work NBA guys do in their cities/regions off the court is also why i find it ultimately petty to get upset when players leave in free agency and stuff of that nature. Fans can never tangibly appreciate the good work they've done off the court and it gets lost.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:44 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.
Tribalism is not really a worthy cause especially when it is wrapped in money.

Also, no one stresses the value of respect and education like the NBA!

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:47 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.
Tribalism is not really a worthy cause especially when it is wrapped in money.

Also, no one stresses the value of respect and education like the NBA!
I didn't say this was a worthy cause, just that it makes no differences. They already do a lot.

Go on...

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:57 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.
Tribalism is not really a worthy cause especially when it is wrapped in money.

Also, no one stresses the value of respect and education like the NBA!
I didn't say this was a worthy cause, just that it makes no differences. They already do a lot.

Go on...
Remember when Obama spoke of "teachable moments"? It is the same thing. At best, the appropriate response to the White House thing is to indicate you have not been invited. Upon the invite, if you can go, you go and show respect to the office. Acting like a bunch of classless fools when you fashion yourselves as role models is the opposite of what one should do.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:59 pm
by Headhunter
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.
Tribalism is not really a worthy cause especially when it is wrapped in money.

Also, no one stresses the value of respect and education like the NBA!
I didn't say this was a worthy cause, just that it makes no differences. They already do a lot.

Go on...
Remember when Obama spoke of "teachable moments"? It is the same thing. At best, the appropriate response to the White House thing is to indicate you have not been invited. Upon the invite, if you can go, you go and show respect to the office. Acting like a bunch of classless fools when you fashion yourselves as role models is the opposite of what one should do.
Much ado about nothing. Hurts nobody, makes the NBA look good to its consumers. They make a much more direct impact on their community all the time.

By the way, only Steve Kerr has been on record talking about this from the Warriors' perspective. He didn't address skipping it, but did suggest there was upside to it. Nothing but rumors at this point.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:02 pm
by Reign in Blood
:shock:

Fuck the Warios, Fuck the Warios, Fuck Warios, Oh Oh Oh! Somebody get Jason out here in a cheerleader outfit to sing this shit!

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:05 pm
by Headhunter
Steph Curry is also buddies with Obama.

You know, the guy who Trump shamelessly disrespected for years by championing the abhorrent birther movement? Any friends of Obama owe Trump no civility.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:06 pm
by Reign in Blood
Headhunter wrote:Steph Curry is also buddies with Obama.

You know, the guy who Trump disrespected for years by championing the abhorrent birther movement? Any friends of Obama owe Trump no civility.
Obama put shit aside to show decent respect.

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:09 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Foo wrote:
Headhunter wrote:I wonder how many events the Warriors do every year that benefit their community? And a symbolic gesture of respect is more important? Professional sports teams go above and beyond already, they embody what every citizen should strive to be as far as making a difference for the world around you, lending your time and money to good causes and inspiring less fortunate people.
Tribalism is not really a worthy cause especially when it is wrapped in money.

Also, no one stresses the value of respect and education like the NBA!
I didn't say this was a worthy cause, just that it makes no differences. They already do a lot.

Go on...
Remember when Obama spoke of "teachable moments"? It is the same thing. At best, the appropriate response to the White House thing is to indicate you have not been invited. Upon the invite, if you can go, you go and show respect to the office. Acting like a bunch of classless fools when you fashion yourselves as role models is the opposite of what one should do.
Much ado about nothing. Hurts nobody, makes the NBA look good to its consumers. They make a much more direct impact on their community all the time.

By the way, only Steve Kerr has been on record talking about this from the Warriors' perspective. He didn't address skipping it, but did suggest there was upside to it. Nothing but rumors at this point.
Think for a moment about what this says about their consumers...

Re: NBA Playoffs

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:10 pm
by Headhunter
Reign in Blood wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Steph Curry is also buddies with Obama.

You know, the guy who Trump disrespected for years by championing the abhorrent birther movement? Any friends of Obama owe Trump no civility.
Obama put shit aside to show decent respect.
Yes, Obama was the classier man.

Doesn't mean it wasn't disgustingly low. And Trump was THE public champion of that.