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i thought it was pretty obvious that he had a crush on her. and it wasn't requited. the death thing though... it didn't occur to me, til just now, that it could be significant that both died off screen. that could have been a deliberate choice for those characters, rather than just a different way to do some of the deaths.Jason wrote:Any opinions on the foreshadowing or the Ned observation?
what all of this means to me... i hate my birth month, as far as horror goes.Jason wrote: Only reason I point out Mrs. Voorhees anyway is because it's such a similar visual and it happened within two weeks of each other. I just find that kind of fascinating.
One survivor left can change the way a killer approaches the last one. Mrs. Voorhees was in the dark about it, because she couldn't just walk in anywhere guns blazing. She stalked them all and offed them one by one. And when she didn't have to hide anymore, she didn't hide.zombie wrote:i don't like how the reveal was handled. mrs. voorhees, upon revealing herself, was not consistent with the way the killer was all throughout the earlier parts of the movie.Jason wrote:The whole movie was set up to tie everything together in the end when Mrs. Voorhees reveals her intentions. Or are you saying you didn't like the final encounter with Alice?zombie wrote:saw the boat thing coming? they slowly pan toward her. what purpose did that serve other than for the coming scare. there was no reason for it narratively.Jason wrote:I don't know. Think about 1980 and the pace of the movie. I don't think anybody saw that coming. In fact, the first time I viewed this movie, I don't believe I saw it coming. I knew next to nothing going into this franchise. All I knew was Jason Voorhees was a big giant killer with a hockey mask. I don't even think I knew Mrs. Voorhees was the killer.zombie wrote:jason's appearance at the end did make for a decent scene though. they didn't do anything to hide that it was all built around a scare though. (but i guess the carrie scene that inspired didn't really try to hide that either, so yeah)
and as for the killer reveal, that you did in your big review. (i feel lame for my little rant / review now.
there was plenty of times that she didn't have to hide. she killed them one by one and usually alone. she never slapped any one around in desperation before alice. she never fumbled with the weapon before alice. it was not just the reveal. everyone saw the same person coming at them that alice did. does revealing your name and motive really take that much of your power away? i don't buy it.Jason wrote:One survivor left can change the way a killer approaches the last one. Mrs. Voorhees was in the dark about it, because she couldn't just walk in anywhere guns blazing. She stalked them all and offed them one by one. And when she didn't have to hide anymore, she didn't hide.zombie wrote:i don't like how the reveal was handled. mrs. voorhees, upon revealing herself, was not consistent with the way the killer was all throughout the earlier parts of the movie.Jason wrote:The whole movie was set up to tie everything together in the end when Mrs. Voorhees reveals her intentions. Or are you saying you didn't like the final encounter with Alice?zombie wrote:saw the boat thing coming? they slowly pan toward her. what purpose did that serve other than for the coming scare. there was no reason for it narratively.Jason wrote:I don't know. Think about 1980 and the pace of the movie. I don't think anybody saw that coming. In fact, the first time I viewed this movie, I don't believe I saw it coming. I knew next to nothing going into this franchise. All I knew was Jason Voorhees was a big giant killer with a hockey mask. I don't even think I knew Mrs. Voorhees was the killer.zombie wrote:jason's appearance at the end did make for a decent scene though. they didn't do anything to hide that it was all built around a scare though. (but i guess the carrie scene that inspired didn't really try to hide that either, so yeah)
and as for the killer reveal, that you did in your big review. (i feel lame for my little rant / review now.
Oh, I thought you were trying to claim Shining ripped it, lol.Jason wrote:I hear ya. But Nicholson made that image famous. If not fr him doing that, it would've just been another moment in the book.
Only reason I point out Mrs. Voorhees anyway is because it's such a similar visual and it happened within two weeks of each other. I just find that kind of fascinating.
Definitely not. Lol. They'd have to get the cast back and reshoot the whole scene within days. Not worth it for a quick movie blip. Now, if Betsy said "Heeeere's Mommy!", I'd be pretty suspicious that they ripped it from Friday. LolDancesWithWerewolves wrote:Oh, I thought you were trying to claim Shining ripped it, lol.Jason wrote:I hear ya. But Nicholson made that image famous. If not fr him doing that, it would've just been another moment in the book.
Only reason I point out Mrs. Voorhees anyway is because it's such a similar visual and it happened within two weeks of each other. I just find that kind of fascinating.
It's too damn hot, and neither my AC nor swamp cooler has the capability of even moderately cooling down the house while the sun is out. Probably gonna start Part 2 in a couple of hours and move on to 3 if I can pinch off a review in time.zombie wrote:gonna try to start part 2 in about an hour, and 3 tonight, probably.
Remember how films were released then and how people behaved. Is nothing like today.zombie wrote:the modern day stuff in friday the 13th happened on june 13th. which it actually was a friday that year, if google is correct. why did they not release it then, instead of doing it in may? i feel like it's begging for it, given the date of the film and the title. it seems like it would market itself, practically.
okay. so tell me how they were then, that friday the 13th couldn't have been released a month later than it was?Foo wrote:Remember how films were released then and how people behaved. Is nothing like today.zombie wrote:the modern day stuff in friday the 13th happened on june 13th. which it actually was a friday that year, if google is correct. why did they not release it then, instead of doing it in may? i feel like it's begging for it, given the date of the film and the title. it seems like it would market itself, practically.