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Headhunter wrote:It's fucking amazing how much zip is still on that ball by the time it gets to Shannon.

That was about a 60 yard throw with a flick of the wrist. Dude had the strongest arm I've ever seen. During one of the QB challenges in the 90s when Elway was about to retire he was slung it well over 80 yards.

He could do it all. GOAT.

I didn't know about the ACL, but I do remember how much of an asset his pigeon-toed movement ended up being. Made him so elusive, so easy to change direction. When his dad Jack first noticed the pigeon-toed walk he recalled giving up on him ever becoming an athlete.

The only guy I'd put up there with Elway as far as arm strength goes was Jeff George, who was Cutler before Cutler.

JaMarcus had a heat seeking missile he couldn't aim anywhere. Cunningham, Culpepper and Vick also had rockets. But Elway made it look easy.

I'd put Cunningham near the discussion. Favre probably tier 2.

Yeah Favre is Tier 2, gets a bit overrated in the GOAT arm conversations but stil great.

Right now Stafford stands out to me as having the strongest arm in the game. Sidearm chucks missiles into windows.

Stafford is definitely #1, right now. As far as arm strength.

One of my favorite nonsensical NFL tropes is the natural assumption that big, tall guys = big arms and shorter guys = weaker arms. Brock Osweiler was consistently tagged as having a "big arm" coming into the draft and that shit is weak as shit. It never even looked strong in college. lol

Fuck, man. Leave Drunk John Elway alone, TMZ.

It's pretty well known in league circles that Elway is...quite fond of the bottle, to say the least.

Fuck it. Why not? He's pushing 60. Had an all-time great athletic career. Has had more success throughout his entire life than 99.9% of all people could dream of.

He's always been a work hard, party hard guy. Apparently a legendary drinker. Our front office is full of them!

Pretty sweet vid of all Champ's picks in 2006. GOAT corner.

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GOAT!

Reign in Blood wrote:GOAT!

Him, Rod Woodson, and Charles Woodson are the best I have ever seen.

Who will be the next great CB? I think your boy Chris Harris has a good chance.

First six interceptions came in the red zone. Amazing.

Revis in his first Jets tenure is up there with the best corners. I think Chris Harris will have a chance to be the best slot CB of all time when his career is over.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chad-kelly-unc ... 35175.html

Liking what I'm hearing from that kid.

Headward, why are people calling him a head case? All I've seen is some drunken brawl in a bar with threats made or some such shit. Seems to me he was young and dumb but now gets to work with a first class crew, and has the talent.

Did you hear his rap song?

I can't believe Dirty Harry Douglas never caught on after that cheap shot on Chris Harris. I can't be the only one who thought of that. Come on, internet.

Reign in Blood wrote:https://sports.yahoo.com/chad-kelly-unc ... 35175.html

Liking what I'm hearing from that kid.

Headward, why are people calling him a head case? All I've seen is some drunken brawl in a bar with threats made or some such shit. Seems to me he was young and dumb but now gets to work with a first class crew, and has the talent.

He got kicked out of a club once and told the bouncer "I'mma get my AK and spray this place up". At Clemson, his buddy hit a parked car in a parking lot and he threatened to beat up the owner of the damaged car. This is one of the reasons he ended up having to transfer. Got into a fight at a high school game.

So..there's serious growing up problems there. But honestly, nothing malicious as far as I can tell. He grew up an entitled brat and probably a bit of a wigger, but I like what I've ever heard from him this summer and I think the growth is real. Was a GREAT pick by Denver.

Btw, Von Miller is holding a camp at Stanford for young pass rushers in the NFL and he's been coaching them up the last few days. Paid for their housing and transportation, His growth from potential head case into one of the NFL's great leaders is nothing short of incredible. Three years ago, he was literally a drug dealer. Not kidding.