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Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:45 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Tiggnutz wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:You live in California dude
It's also huge, so, not noticing another section of the state is pretty common. Like Texas and Alaska, too.
Its not worldwide news?
It is to an extent, but we've also had a lot in recent time, so unless you follow or know those being affected, it could pass you by. I've known other people whose houses have burned in wildfires but not this one (not counting celebrities in Malibu), so ya know.
That's just wild it's on every news station here are you all just so used to it that it's like rain in Seattle
Fire season's almost over. Mudslide season's coming up. Our two seasons.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:46 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:It is kind of impossible to separate politics from the issue, it's very much a federal/state conundrum.
Well that's a bad situation to be in for sure

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:48 pm
by Tiggnutz
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:You live in California dude
It's also huge, so, not noticing another section of the state is pretty common. Like Texas and Alaska, too.
Its not worldwide news?
It is to an extent, but we've also had a lot in recent time, so unless you follow or know those being affected, it could pass you by. I've known other people whose houses have burned in wildfires but not this one (not counting celebrities in Malibu), so ya know.
That's just wild it's on every news station here are you all just so used to it that it's like rain in Seattle
Fire season's almost over. Mudslide season's coming up. Our two seasons.
Ours are murders are because it's to hot and murders because it's the holidays. 2 seasons

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:48 pm
by Reign in Blood
Tiggnutz wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:You live in California dude
It's also huge, so, not noticing another section of the state is pretty common. Like Texas and Alaska, too.
Its not worldwide news?
It is to an extent, but we've also had a lot in recent time, so unless you follow or know those being affected, it could pass you by. I've known other people whose houses have burned in wildfires but not this one (not counting celebrities in Malibu), so ya know.
That's just wild it's on every news station here are you all just so used to it that it's like rain in Seattle
Let us not go liberal-batshit-crazy. JASON, may not be aware of it, and it being the deadliest in Cali history etc. Plenty are aware, Jason might be uninitiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Tigg?

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:50 pm
by Tiggnutz
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:You live in California dude
It's also huge, so, not noticing another section of the state is pretty common. Like Texas and Alaska, too.
Its not worldwide news?
It is to an extent, but we've also had a lot in recent time, so unless you follow or know those being affected, it could pass you by. I've known other people whose houses have burned in wildfires but not this one (not counting celebrities in Malibu), so ya know.
That's just wild it's on every news station here are you all just so used to it that it's like rain in Seattle
Let us not go liberal-batshit-crazy. JASON, may not be aware of it, and it being the deadliest in Cali history etc. Plenty are aware, Jason might be uninitiated, but we are initiated, aren't we Tigg?
House Nutz donated money to help our west coast brothers and sisters

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:53 pm
by Foo
Tiggnutz wrote:No politics or anything but California has to do something to prepare for and try to lesson these fires. No politics talk but some measures must be taken
I am not sure how you keep politics out of it, when they literally refuse to adopt strategies to prevent such fires. Tree harvesting, controlled burns, etc. are viable options that they refuse. As demand for wood has increased, they have reduced logging by 75%.

I live directly adjacent to a huge state park. Hunting deer (so they are not flying into our cars every damn day) and thinning the forest are vital parts of managing the area. Downed trees are removed by locals who want it for fire wood, brush is cut back, and it there are times when contracts are given to remove some of the mature trees.

It takes a lot to burn up a living tree, but all the dead brush and downed trees change all that. there are plenty of companies and residents who would love that wood.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:54 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Oh, I have been hearing of this one, it just got mixed up with the recent huge one down here, lumping it with it, and never saw "Butte County" mentioned in any of it.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:55 pm
by Headhunter
The belief that all wildfires are bad and must be prevented is problematic in itself. Historically, wildfires were good for dry western forests and the government has artificially disrupted that. Now you get these uncontrollable monster fires.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:56 pm
by Foo
California's four seasons:

Fire, Flood, Earthquake, and Riot.

They could improve three of them.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:56 pm
by Jason
What caused this one?

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:57 pm
by Tiggnutz
To be honest I think that that part of the country ecologically is supposed to burn every few years

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:58 pm
by Tiggnutz
Jason wrote:What caused this one?
A campfire I think here it's called the campfire

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:58 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Foo wrote:California's four seasons:

Fire, Flood, Earthquake, and Riot.

They could improve three of them.
Eh, Earthquake and Riot are a year-round thing :P

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:59 pm
by Jason
Can't remember the last time I felt an earthquake.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:01 pm
by Jason
Flood. lol. Would have to get that mysterious thing they call "rain" to happen.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:03 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:To be honest I think that that part of the country ecologically is supposed to burn every few years
In these dry forests, you need some fire to clear out all the seedings and brush on the ground. They don't do anything at all with most of that land and ground fuels just continue to build. There are sites with foot tall layers of pine needles.

Coastal forests are a different story and require different management strategies.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:03 pm
by Foo
Jason wrote:Flood. lol. Would have to get that mysterious thing they call "rain" to happen.
Watch after the fire. Next big rain will cause all sorts of mudslides. It is all part of the ecosystem there.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:05 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Jason wrote:Flood. lol. Would have to get that mysterious thing they call "rain" to happen.
It's really Mudslide season. I'm sure it was a slip on Foo's part.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:05 pm
by Jason
Foo wrote:
Jason wrote:Flood. lol. Would have to get that mysterious thing they call "rain" to happen.
Watch after the fire. Next big rain will cause all sorts of mudslides. It is all part of the ecosystem there.
Yeah, but that shit ain't happening anywhere near me. lol.

Re: November 16th 2018

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:06 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:
Tiggnutz wrote:To be honest I think that that part of the country ecologically is supposed to burn every few years
In these dry forests, you need some fire to clear out all the seedings and brush on the ground. They don't do anything at all with most of that land and ground fuels just continue to build. There are sites with foot tall layers of pine needles.

Coastal forests are a different story and require different management strategies.
Also, that stuff can be burned for energy more cleanly than allowing it to slowly rot and then incinerate uncontrollably.