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Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:38 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:"i am your president of law and order and an ally to all peaceful protestors." - donald trump

cue videos of police attacking peaceful protestors and even, sometimes, just random people or reporters that are not protestors at all. :P
It's too bad "Cop Saves Day" doesn't make the news. That's all you'd see every day on the news. Can't even imagine the criminal activity that would exist without law and order. National Guard needs to come in and KO all these fucking beta males.
anti-law&order is not, nor ever has been, what i'm about, so you can knock that off.
Ok, but it has to be acknowledged. America is burning to the ground because of one incident involving a guy who happened to be black and died because of a health condition. In the rare instances of police brutality, more white men are killed than black men, despite black men committing more crime. Black officers have killed white men and WOMEN. And nobody bats an eye until it's the other way around. A black police officer was killed during these riots, too. Nobody cares. Auto Zone is still on fire and the rioters are too busy roasting marshmallows to notice.
his health condition was being sat on by three cops until he went limp and unresponsive.

but you're right, it does need to be acknowledged. there are good cops. and they provide cover, unknowingly or not, for bad murderer cops (cops. not black cops, not white cops. just cops)
We don't have footage of what happened when Floyd was arrested. Only after the cop had detained him. He was awake and kicking in the back of the cop car. The media never shows that footage. They acknowledge he is dead, and only show video of him laying on the ground as if that was the moment he died. Hooray for chaos!

I can't apologize for my empathy. I feel for both sides, even the officer involved. His life is over. He had a wife and children.
No matter what, we have conflicting autopsies. Which means one party is lying. If he indeed died of strangulation and asphyxiation, it would have had to have been on the ride to the police station, as he was seen kicking in the back of the cop car. They'd had to have strangled him on the way there or when they got there. Which doesn't make sense.
show me this video, that happened after the asshole cop sat on his neck?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:38 pm
by Headhunter
He’s gonna kill himself? Pussy.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:42 pm
by zombie
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:"i am your president of law and order and an ally to all peaceful protestors." - donald trump

cue videos of police attacking peaceful protestors and even, sometimes, just random people or reporters that are not protestors at all. :P
It's too bad "Cop Saves Day" doesn't make the news. That's all you'd see every day on the news. Can't even imagine the criminal activity that would exist without law and order. National Guard needs to come in and KO all these fucking beta males.
anti-law&order is not, nor ever has been, what i'm about, so you can knock that off.
Ok, but it has to be acknowledged. America is burning to the ground because of one incident involving a guy who happened to be black and died because of a health condition. In the rare instances of police brutality, more white men are killed than black men, despite black men committing more crime. Black officers have killed white men and WOMEN. And nobody bats an eye until it's the other way around. A black police officer was killed during these riots, too. Nobody cares. Auto Zone is still on fire and the rioters are too busy roasting marshmallows to notice.
his health condition was being sat on by three cops until he went limp and unresponsive.

but you're right, it does need to be acknowledged. there are good cops. and they provide cover, unknowingly or not, for bad murderer cops (cops. not black cops, not white cops. just cops)
We don't have footage of what happened when Floyd was arrested. Only after the cop had detained him. He was awake and kicking in the back of the cop car. The media never shows that footage. They acknowledge he is dead, and only show video of him laying on the ground as if that was the moment he died. Hooray for chaos!

I can't apologize for my empathy. I feel for both sides, even the officer involved. His life is over. He had a wife and children.
No matter what, we have conflicting autopsies. Which means one party is lying. If he indeed died of strangulation and asphyxiation, it would have had to have been on the ride to the police station, as he was seen kicking in the back of the cop car. They'd had to have strangled him on the way there or when they got there. Which doesn't make sense.
show me this video, that happened after the asshole cop sat on his neck?
i've read and heard from multiple sources that the ambulance took his body away after coming onto the scene, and chauvin got off of his limp body. not that he was driven away under police custody. is that wrong?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:46 pm
by Headhunter
Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:50 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:what i'm reading is that both autopsies, hennepin county medical and the one performed via family request, indicate that it was homicide, but that the cause of death differs from one to other. show me different?
The news articles I have went and completely edited away any evidence of the other autopsy they reported on. Trying to archive it to see if I can catch them before they changed it.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:50 pm
by Jason
Headhunter wrote:Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner
The guy is dead now. Died in hospital.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner
The guy is dead now. Died in hospital.
show me

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:53 pm
by Jason
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:what i'm reading is that both autopsies, hennepin county medical and the one performed via family request, indicate that it was homicide, but that the cause of death differs from one to other. show me different?
The news articles I have went and completely edited away any evidence of the other autopsy they reported on. Trying to archive it to see if I can catch them before they changed it.
Archive is being weird and I'm not on a laptop. Maybe another day. I gotta go. Luvs u

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:54 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:what i'm reading is that both autopsies, hennepin county medical and the one performed via family request, indicate that it was homicide, but that the cause of death differs from one to other. show me different?
The news articles I have went and completely edited away any evidence of the other autopsy they reported on. Trying to archive it to see if I can catch them before they changed it.
Archive is being weird and I'm not on a laptop. Maybe another day. I gotta go. Luvs u
you're not going to. fair enough. i can only go by what i've read and heard. not from a hypothetical source that can't be sourced at all.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:11 pm
by Headhunter
Jason doubling down on the fake news now, huh?

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:16 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner
The guy is dead now. Died in hospital.
show me
This should be pretty obvious, but that’s not true.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:24 pm
by zombie
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner
The guy is dead now. Died in hospital.
show me
This should be pretty obvious, but that’s not true.
he believes it. i just wanna know why.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:27 pm
by Headhunter
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:Is this from the same source that said the alive machete guy who wasn’t a business owner was a dead innocent business owner
The guy is dead now. Died in hospital.
show me
This should be pretty obvious, but that’s not true.
he believes it. i just wanna know why.
Because his sources have no credibility? I’m more curious about why he’s invented this video of the cops hauling a dead man into a cop car who then comes back to life. That’s not believable in any way whatsoever.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:33 pm
by Headhunter
And yes, after the cop choked the life out of him, he was hauled away in an ambulance. Why this has to be explained is totally beyond me. Some serious nutjob conspiracy shit.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:59 am
by showa58taro
New York Times have a recreation of what happened to Floyd should anyone need it.

The protests are essential. The exposing of police brutality during a protest about police brutality is the greatest part of all this.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:02 am
by zombie
george floyd is dead because of an asshole cop.

former police captain david dorn is dead because of asshole looters.

let's don't become the monsters that we are supposed to be fighting to stop.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:19 am
by Headhunter
Police are an institution of power. Rioters are not. Need to stop conflating the two, “both sides”ing and obscuring the issue of fucked up policing in this country.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:26 am
by zombie
rioters are supposedly fighting for a necessary cause. looters are taking advantage of that cause. you need to stop conflating the two.

and i'm not obscuring anything by calling out murder for what it is. anymore than you're excusing murder because it may obscure the issue.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:05 am
by Headhunter
Because what we really need is to pay more attention to the rioters. The media hadn’t done enough of that yet.

Re: Random Political Comments

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am
by zombie
the difference between police and the rest of us is that police need direct oversight and regulation because of the basis of their jobs and the power afforded them in order to do their jobs. in very basic terms.

not that because there are assholes among the police that kill people unnecessarily and in heinous abuses of their power. there shouldn't be accountability when some of the rest of us kill people unnecessarily.