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Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

Headhunter wrote:

Headhunter wrote:3 workhorse RBs in a small league is a good play. And Gronk is Gronk. Can't go wrong.

Please note my objectivity as I crossed my fingers for Gronk tbh.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

I would say Gruden's problem is more that he's not a good coach than any "shake fist at clouds" generational gap.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

I would say Gruden's problem is more that he's not a good coach than any "shake fist at clouds" generational gap.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

I would say Gruden's problem is more that he's not a good coach than any "shake fist at clouds" generational gap.

Well, they can't all be great like Marvin Lewis.

showa58taro wrote:I don’t know what I’m seeing.

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

I would say Gruden's problem is more that he's not a good coach than any "shake fist at clouds" generational gap.

Well, they can't all be great like Marvin Lewis.

Was this supposed to be a post defending Jon Gruden? Why would that ever be a thing? lmaoooo

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

showa58taro wrote:

Jason wrote:Ahahahahahaha beautiful trade. No longer have to hear Raiders fans make the horrible claim that he is better than Von.

Also, I wanted to interchange the Rams and Jags defenses on a given week. Leave me alone.

You draft your way buddy. I’m sure there was a strategy.

It’s like we missed being the LolRaiders since big Al died, but we hired Gruden to get us back to the promise land of never making the playoffs again. Here’s hoping the offense rocks at least.

I fear Gruden's style will not work in this era. He's rebuilding the cuture, which could be brilliant, but these entitled kids are getting paid millions and Gruden is a known hard ass. Guarantee these players, ESPECIALLY in the Raiders organization, are gonna give him lip when he chews them out. They're not gonna have some white ass dude yelling at them. Worked 15-20 years ago to yell at a player, not so much anymore.

I would say Gruden's problem is more that he's not a good coach than any "shake fist at clouds" generational gap.

Well, they can't all be great like Marvin Lewis.

Was this supposed to be a post defending Jon Gruden? Why would that ever be a thing? lmaoooo

Yeah, Gruden has seen far more success as a coach than most have.

They couldn't come to terms with someone on a contract. That is no reflection on anyone unless it becomes a habit. Sometimes teams and players just don't agree on value. At least the Raiders got a fair return on him.

Headhunter wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:Table shows we're only 7 balls deep, let's roll. Tried texting J-Mac, don't know if number is valid.

We're like 12 rounds in, Jason blows at updating his table

Jason wrote:"I hate to be on Jason's side here, but"- is all I heard. :p