Headhunter wrote:BLM: We want our people to be able to walk the streets or drive without fear of being killed by police. We deserve equal protection under the law as American citizens.
Nazis: We want an all-white America. Fuck Jews. Fuck blacks. Fuck women who think their place is outside the kitchen or bedroom.
Totally the same!
are you trying to be the bizarro foo?
I'm tearing down the absolute joke of a false equivalence between BLM and white supremacists he brings up ALL the TIME.
some people who identify as blm are pretty crap. i don't think it's an organized thing though?
"Some people". Sounds like...every group ever. And yes, there's no formal structure. Their actual goals and desires are more noble than wanting another Holocaust, don't you think?
On the other hand, every single person who identifies as a white supremacist should go home right now, put a shotgun in their mouth and blow their brains out. If every single one of them died, the world would be better off.
the some people, from what i can tell, are considered to be "leaders" of blm in their area. otherwise, yeah, every group will include people that suck, on some level.
don't try to push that on me, like i am okay with white supremacists or any such crap. yes, fighting to be treated better by cops is a worthy cause. racial genocide is shit. (or genocide of any kind, so i cover my bases with you. )
Black Lives Matter is just the latest rebranding of the same old Democrat operatives. If speeches and motivations were a dinner, they would be re-heated hot dogs. Not the good hot dogs, either. Those ones for $2 a pack made with chicken peckers or something.
Headhunter wrote:BLM: We want our people to be able to walk the streets or drive without fear of being killed by police. We deserve equal protection under the law as American citizens.
Nazis: We want an all-white America. Fuck Jews. Fuck blacks. Fuck women who think their place is outside the kitchen or bedroom.
Totally the same!
are you trying to be the bizarro foo?
I'm tearing down the absolute joke of a false equivalence between BLM and white supremacists he brings up ALL the TIME.
some people who identify as blm are pretty crap. i don't think it's an organized thing though?
"Some people". Sounds like...every group ever. And yes, there's no formal structure. Their actual goals and desires are more noble than wanting another Holocaust, don't you think?
On the other hand, every single person who identifies as a white supremacist should go home right now, put a shotgun in their mouth and blow their brains out. If every single one of them died, the world would be better off.
the some people, from what i can tell, are considered to be "leaders" of blm in their area. otherwise, yeah, every group will include people that suck, on some level.
don't try to push that on me, like i am okay with white supremacists or any such crap. yes, fighting to be treated better by cops is a worthy cause. racial genocide is shit. (or genocide of any kind, so i cover my bases with you. )
There is no BLM headquarters or anything of the sort. Anyone can call themselves BLM and lead rallies if they see fit.
Do you think there are genuinely good, decent people who support the message of Black Lives Matter? How about the reverse, for the Ku Klux Klan or Nazis?
Foo wrote:Black Lives Matter is just the latest rebranding of the same old Democrat operatives. If speeches and motivations were a dinner, they would be re-heated hot dogs. Not the good hot dogs, either. Those ones for $2 a pack made with chicken peckers or something.
Headhunter wrote:Why is it fair to equate wanting all other races and cultures eradicated from the world to black people simply wanting to be treated fairly by police in this country?
I think those things are different. Just my take.
Why are those people all offended when you remind them that every life matters? Because there movement is about more than equality.
Headhunter wrote:Why is it fair to equate wanting all other races and cultures eradicated from the world to black people simply wanting to be treated fairly by police in this country?
I think those things are different. Just my take.
Why are those people all offended when you remind them that every life matters? Because there movement is about more than equality.
Because the response "all lives matter" is intended to be dismissive of black concerns, not a message of peace and understanding. You are spewing lies. Lazy ones too.
I already explained this to Tigg a while back, but here you go Foo. For your education.
You interpret BLM as "Only Black Lives Matter" because you want to, because it's the easiest way to slam them. In reality it means "Black Lives Matter Too".
Headhunter wrote:
There is no BLM headquarters or anything of the sort. Anyone can call themselves BLM and lead rallies if they see fit.
Do you think there are genuinely good, decent people who support the message of Black Lives Matter? How about the reverse, for the Ku Klux Klan or Nazis?
well those people should be called out and condemned, just as much as white supremacists should be. they do as much disservice to the cause.
yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
You responded with the "some people in BLM are crap" thing right? You were kind of excusing the comparison there.
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Anything targeting a single group versus everyone being treated equal should be dismissed. That is what makes it garbage. An innocent black teen dying is no lesser or greater tragedy than a teen of any other color. Of course, they can't make it about everyone because then it would not be a dog whistle to the Democratic Party.
We all agree the loss of an innocent life is tragic. Why not start there? Oh right, because that would make it apolitical. They are terrified to use a common sense approach because the Republicans might co-opt it.
It is not about black lives. It is about money and elections.
Foo wrote:Anything targeting a single group versus everyone being treated equal should be dismissed. That is what makes it garbage. An innocent black teen dying is no lesser or greater tragedy than a teen of any other color. Of course, they can't make it about everyone because then it would not be a dog whistle to the Democratic Party.
We all agree the loss of an innocent life is tragic. Why not start there? Oh right, because that would make it apolitical. They are terrified to use a common sense approach because the Republicans might co-opt it.
It is not about black lives. It is about money and elections.
BLM has attended vigils and rallies for white and Latino victims of police as well. The information you get about BLM is crap.
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
You responded with the "some people in BLM are crap" thing right? You were kind of excusing the comparison there.
not my intention. next time i'll look up the names. the shitty people that i've seen identify themselves as blm seem to be just as bad as many white supremacists, but that does not count to all of blm. as i said "some".
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
You responded with the "some people in BLM are crap" thing right? You were kind of excusing the comparison there.
not my intention. next time i'll look up the names. the shitty people that i've seen identify themselves as blm seem to be just as bad as many white supremacists, but that does not count to all of blm. as i said "some".
It's almost like extremists attach themselves to every existing group...
except when the entire group is extremists. Like KKK. Or Nazis.
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
You responded with the "some people in BLM are crap" thing right? You were kind of excusing the comparison there.
not my intention. next time i'll look up the names. the shitty people that i've seen identify themselves as blm seem to be just as bad as many white supremacists, but that does not count to all of blm. as i said "some".
It's almost like extremists attach themselves to every existing group...
except when the entire group is extremists. Like KKK. Or Nazis.
zombie wrote:yes, i agree that there are decent blm-ers. no, there are not decent white supremacists. but people do get that label pushed onto them that are decent. if you actively push for oppression or genocide or racism, you're garbage.
So you see how it's pretty absurd to equate BLM and white supremacist hate groups, right? Shitty people are everywhere, including part of BLM. But every single person involved in a white supremacy movement is shitty and deserves to die and you can't say the same about BLM. Kind of a key distinction.
but you're pushing that on to me. i didn't say that. *shrug*
You responded with the "some people in BLM are crap" thing right? You were kind of excusing the comparison there.
not my intention. next time i'll look up the names. the shitty people that i've seen identify themselves as blm seem to be just as bad as many white supremacists, but that does not count to all of blm. as i said "some".
It's almost like extremists attach themselves to every existing group...
except when the entire group is extremists. Like KKK. Or Nazis.
or antifa or isis. they all fucking suck.
Agreed, but why the All Sides Matter routine again?. A lot of people (NOT YOU) want to use Antifa's presence as a means for justifying the white supremacists being there. Just a rule of thumb, whichever side has Nazis will tend to be worse.