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Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:31 pm
by Headhunter
Best looking draft of the Elway era. He finally figured out it's better to take polished and productive football players over project athletes. I suspect it is more Kubiak's doing, however.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:35 pm
by Jason
Ok
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:37 pm
by Headhunter
Ok what? Elway just cut both of his 3rd round picks from a year ago. And his 1st rounder from two years ago. No stars since his first draft. Not great.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:46 pm
by Jason
He acquired 19/22 starters of a team that went to a Super Bowl after 4 years of being GM. He formed the greatest offense of all time and two years later transformed the team into one of the greatest defenses that ever existed.
Ok
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:50 pm
by Headhunter
Jason wrote:He acquired 19/22 starters of a team that went to a Super Bowl after 4 years of being GM. He formed the greatest offense of all time and two years later transformed the team into one of the greatest defenses that ever existed.
Ok
McDaniels for as bad as he was, brought in half that offense. Peyton is responsible for Denver becoming a free agent destination, thus Talib and Ware. Elway gets credit for signing him, but it's not exactly a genius move to think "Hey, let's sign a top 5 all-time QB!". The salary cap and draft are set up to make it relatively easy to turn around bad teams, it's harder to keep good teams on top and Elway's done a piss poor job of that. He unsuccessfully tried to pay Brock to be a franchise QB (only Houston's incompetence saved him) and when that didn't work out, drafted one of the worst first round QBs of our lifetime.
Name one great player he's drafted since Von Miller.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:57 pm
by Jason
Uhh... who brought in Peyton then...
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:58 pm
by Headhunter
Read my post. He gets credit for the close, not for the brilliant idea of signing a Hall of Fame QB. His QB the previous year couldn't throw a football. Yeah, you go after Peyton Manning. Duh.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:51 pm
by Foo
Headhunter wrote:Best looking draft of the Elway era. He finally figured out it's better to take polished and productive football players over project athletes. I suspect it is more Kubiak's doing, however.
So much luck involved. I don't think Elway is particularly good or bad.
Agree with you on Manning. Imagine Jay Cutler was a little better. Suddenly he is in Denver on a big contract when Manning becomes available. Things look a lot different. Maybe Elway is not even hired at all. Lots of luck on timing led to the Super Bowls, but again, that could be said for most winners.
Wings of a butterfly, etc.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:44 pm
by Tiggnutz
Yes Bell don't cave sit out as long as you can
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:00 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Yes Bell don't cave sit out as long as you can
If he shows up later this week, he won't be able to play but will get to keep his Week 1 game check. Might be the plan.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:01 pm
by Jason
This is why I told you guys you can have Bell. He was never in my draft plan. Dude is the definition of a prissy diva. Really screwed Reign over here. :p
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:02 pm
by Jason
Pittsburgh should just dump him, trade him, do something. Dude is a cancer to the team.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:03 pm
by Headhunter
Another team needs to agree to sign him to a contract for them to trade him. He's not under contract.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:04 pm
by Tiggnutz
Yes trade him away far away :twisted:
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:04 pm
by Headhunter
I say get your money about 100% of the time but he probably overplayed his hand this year. The league just doesn't value that position.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:05 pm
by Tiggnutz
Headhunter wrote:Another team needs to agree to sign him to a contract for them to trade him. He's not under contract.
The way fools are spending someone would give him what he wants
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:07 pm
by Headhunter
Tiggnutz wrote:Headhunter wrote:Another team needs to agree to sign him to a contract for them to trade him. He's not under contract.
The way fools are spending someone would give him what he wants
I think the league has gotten smarter with the position. Maybe there's a team out there but I think it would be tough.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:18 pm
by Jason
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:20 pm
by Reign in Blood
Jason wrote:This is why I told you guys you can have Bell. He was never in my draft plan. Dude is the definition of a prissy diva. Really screwed Reign over here. :p
It was p obvious mean-spirited trolling.
Re: NFL 2018: From the Draft to the Super Bowl
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:30 pm
by Jmac Attack
Reign in Blood wrote:Jason wrote:This is why I told you guys you can have Bell. He was never in my draft plan. Dude is the definition of a prissy diva. Really screwed Reign over here. :p
It was p obvious mean-spirited trolling.
Makes ya wanna hate the Steelers! I might offer Antonio Brown on a trade. I can't stand this. I tried. He was the best available because all these motherfuckers drafted all the good running backs before it was my turn. They played me Reign. They knew what they were doing.