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Reign in Blood wrote:Woah, and thought Jason knew how to spin shit.

He’s not wrong though. The law is stupid and hurts everyone but will disproportionately hurt minorities.

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

Meh he’s been saying white people are the real victims of racism for a long time.

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

Meh he’s been saying white people are the real victims of racism for a long time.

i took him to be saying that democrats are hurting black people, while appearing to help so they can get the vote. maybe i misread.

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

I am no Republican, but there is no question they're not less moral and competent than democrats at this stage of the paradigm. The idea is not to provide less benefits, but to create opportunities and eliminate the incentive to live off the government. They're also not pushing for easier access to guns, they're for upholding the right to keep and bear arms. It is quite difficult to obtain a legal firearm and you would know that if you legally owned a firearm. The problem with this "unchecked law enforcement aggression" is it is such a rarity in the overall spectrum of law enforcement. 99.9% of all cops of every race would risk their lives if you or any other race were in danger. And the problem with the media and the left is the primary focus of shining the spotlight on the absolute rarest of negative circumstances. I won't be forever opposed to voting Democrat, but I cannot see myself considering a vote for them any time soon with the way they pander and divide the nation in an attempt to take a stronghold in government again. They need to be wiped out completely for an entire election cycle as a reality check that the divisiveness is not going to fly with the citizens of the U.S. anymore.

In short, unification and peace among citizens would be disastrous for their party, and they've forced themselves in a position to either become obsolete, or keep America divided in order to stay afloat.

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

Meh he’s been saying white people are the real victims of racism for a long time.

i took him to be saying that democrats are hurting black people, while appearing to help so they can get the vote. maybe i misread.

Yeah but he doesn’t actually care about any of that. It’s just partisan bullshit. If Republicans put black people in the same spot (which would be a drastic improvement from the potential reality of Republicans running cities), he’d be all good with it. There’s not much critical thinking going on in his mind.

Think about how delusional you have to be to criticize Democrats for being “divisive” while praising Trump whose entire strategy is to divide and piss people off. It’s simply partisan bullshit with Jason.

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

Meh he’s been saying white people are the real victims of racism for a long time.

i took him to be saying that democrats are hurting black people, while appearing to help so they can get the vote. maybe i misread.

Yeah but he doesn’t actually care about any of that. It’s just partisan bullshit. If Republicans put black people in the same spot (which would be a drastic improvement from the potential reality of Republicans running cities), he’d be all good with it. There’s not much critical thinking going on in his mind.

Think about how delusional you have to be to criticize Democrats for being “divisive” while praising Trump whose entire strategy is to divide and piss people off. It’s simply partisan bullshit with Jason.

I'm out.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

i was paying attention. point out how that undermines my post above?

What “opportunities” do Republicans create? All they are concerned with is cutting taxes for rich people and pandering to evangelicals and gun people. They don’t create shit.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

i was paying attention. point out how that undermines my post above?

I took as you saying I'm one sided in that I believe only white people can be victims?

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

i was paying attention. point out how that undermines my post above?

I took as you saying I'm one sided in that I believe only white people can be victims?

one sided, in that democrats are the only ones being institutionally racist.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

i was paying attention. point out how that undermines my post above?

I took as you saying I'm one sided in that I believe only white people can be victims?

one sided, in that democrats are the only ones being institutionally racist.

Oh. Well then you are correct!

Jason denies all oppression faced by black people since the Emancipation Proclamation except for access to government support from Democrats. Was apparently 70 years of smooth sailing until they flipped to FDR and the donkeys, now they’re being crushed under the weight of being able to maintain roofs over their heads in apartheid neighborhoods.

I’m supposed to believe that Republicans, who hate funding anything, will improve these cities? There’s no logical reason to believe that’s the case. Things would almost certainly be even worse.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

at least jason admitted to institutional racism, even if he feels like it's only one sided. baby steps.

We're you not paying attention when I went on that long rant about democrats suppressing minorities to gain their vote by making them dependent on the government?

i was paying attention. point out how that undermines my post above?

I took as you saying I'm one sided in that I believe only white people can be victims?

one sided, in that democrats are the only ones being institutionally racist.

Oh. Well then you are correct!

uh huh. i'm pretty decent at understanding people's point of view, even when i think they're wrong.

Can anyone name a single thing Republican policies would do to help places like South Side Chicago that have minimal tax dollar support?

I’m not going to deny Democrats haven’t done the best job helping. I want to know specific things Republicans would do if they had that power to help these places? I’ve laid out the timeline of problems plaguing these places several pages back. It’s a crazy set of circumstances that turn these places into what they are. What is the Republican vision here?

If you can’t answer that with anything real, I don’t want to hear about how voting for Democrats is the problem.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

I am no Republican, but there is no question they're not less moral and competent than democrats at this stage of the paradigm. The idea is not to provide less benefits, but to create opportunities and eliminate the incentive to live off the government. They're also not pushing for easier access to guns, they're for upholding the right to keep and bear arms. It is quite difficult to obtain a legal firearm and you would know that if you legally owned a firearm. The problem with this "unchecked law enforcement aggression" is it is such a rarity in the overall spectrum of law enforcement. 99.9% of all cops of every race would risk their lives if you or any other race were in danger. And the problem with the media and the left is the primary focus of shining the spotlight on the absolute rarest of negative circumstances. I won't be forever opposed to voting Democrat, but I cannot see myself considering a vote for them any time soon with the way they pander and divide the nation in an attempt to take a stronghold in government again. They need to be wiped out completely for an entire election cycle as a reality check that the divisiveness is not going to fly with the citizens of the U.S. anymore.

In short, unification and peace among citizens would be disastrous for their party, and they've forced themselves in a position to either become obsolete, or keep America divided in order to stay afloat.

the difference seems to be that democrats try to pander to minorities, while being divisive and underhanded. and republicans try to pander to churchgoers and blue collar workers, while being divisive and underhanded.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

I am no Republican, but there is no question they're not less moral and competent than democrats at this stage of the paradigm. The idea is not to provide less benefits, but to create opportunities and eliminate the incentive to live off the government. They're also not pushing for easier access to guns, they're for upholding the right to keep and bear arms. It is quite difficult to obtain a legal firearm and you would know that if you legally owned a firearm. The problem with this "unchecked law enforcement aggression" is it is such a rarity in the overall spectrum of law enforcement. 99.9% of all cops of every race would risk their lives if you or any other race were in danger. And the problem with the media and the left is the primary focus of shining the spotlight on the absolute rarest of negative circumstances. I won't be forever opposed to voting Democrat, but I cannot see myself considering a vote for them any time soon with the way they pander and divide the nation in an attempt to take a stronghold in government again. They need to be wiped out completely for an entire election cycle as a reality check that the divisiveness is not going to fly with the citizens of the U.S. anymore.

In short, unification and peace among citizens would be disastrous for their party, and they've forced themselves in a position to either become obsolete, or keep America divided in order to stay afloat.

the difference seems to be that democrats try to pander to minorities, while being divisive and underhanded. and republicans try to pander to churchgoers and blue collar workers, while being divisive and underhanded.

I’d like to slightly amend this. There’s a tendency to use blue collar worker as a euphemism for lower class white people, but in reality anyone can be a blue collar worker. They pander to white blue collar workers.

Isn’t it odd that lower class people in this country who should logically have similar economic and political goals are divided along racial lines?

It’s intentional and its roots are on Southern plantations and making sure indentured servants and slaves wouldn’t find common ground and make political gains at the expense of land owners.

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I would love to know which Republican policies would improve things, if we’re holding to this absurd premise that you can boil the state of black America down to voting Democrat, ignoring decades and decades of context and history that put things where they are today.

What are Republicans doing to help? Less benefits for poor people? Easier access to guns? Yet more unchecked law enforcement aggression? This is just extremely dumb.

I am no Republican, but there is no question they're not less moral and competent than democrats at this stage of the paradigm. The idea is not to provide less benefits, but to create opportunities and eliminate the incentive to live off the government. They're also not pushing for easier access to guns, they're for upholding the right to keep and bear arms. It is quite difficult to obtain a legal firearm and you would know that if you legally owned a firearm. The problem with this "unchecked law enforcement aggression" is it is such a rarity in the overall spectrum of law enforcement. 99.9% of all cops of every race would risk their lives if you or any other race were in danger. And the problem with the media and the left is the primary focus of shining the spotlight on the absolute rarest of negative circumstances. I won't be forever opposed to voting Democrat, but I cannot see myself considering a vote for them any time soon with the way they pander and divide the nation in an attempt to take a stronghold in government again. They need to be wiped out completely for an entire election cycle as a reality check that the divisiveness is not going to fly with the citizens of the U.S. anymore.

In short, unification and peace among citizens would be disastrous for their party, and they've forced themselves in a position to either become obsolete, or keep America divided in order to stay afloat.

the difference seems to be that democrats try to pander to minorities, while being divisive and underhanded. and republicans try to pander to churchgoers and blue collar workers, while being divisive and underhanded.

I’d like to slightly amend this. There’s a tendency to use blue collar worker as a euphemism for lower class white people, but in reality anyone can be a blue collar worker. They pander to white blue collar workers.

yeah, that's fair to say. any race can be a churchgoer too.