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Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:15 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Sniffing gasoline makes me happy! Obviously if it makes me happy, it is good!
no. you should be miserable with no way to ease it at all. just suffer through it cause it makes me feel more comfortable with you. i'll offer condemnation and judgment if you can't just suffer through it.
Have you tried being productive to ease the misery? Can't do the same things and expect different results.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:15 pm
by Jigsaw
"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:18 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Sniffing gasoline makes me happy! Obviously if it makes me happy, it is good!
no. you should be miserable with no way to ease it at all. just suffer through it cause it makes me feel more comfortable with you. i'll offer condemnation and judgment if you can't just suffer through it.
Have you tried being productive to ease the misery? Can't do the same things and expect different results.
yes. i've tried being productive. if trying to be productive doesn't work, do i keep trying it expecting different results?

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:21 pm
by Foo
Jigsaw wrote:"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.
My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:23 pm
by Jigsaw
I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:26 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Went to cut cable to lighten my financial load, they gave me 12 months at half off. I've always heard those companies really want people to stay with them, but never experienced it till now.

And coming down sick, so yay.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:28 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Sniffing gasoline makes me happy! Obviously if it makes me happy, it is good!
no. you should be miserable with no way to ease it at all. just suffer through it cause it makes me feel more comfortable with you. i'll offer condemnation and judgment if you can't just suffer through it.
Have you tried being productive to ease the misery? Can't do the same things and expect different results.
yes. i've tried being productive. if trying to be productive doesn't work, do i keep trying it expecting different results?
Do you think your efforts at productivity would be similar to my idea of productivity? Again, find purpose. Become a part of something bigger that leads you to a better future. Escapism is only temporary.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:29 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.
My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.
if you knew someone in venezuela who was smoking weed to take their mind off of their shitty situation, would you tell them to just buck up and be productive instead, or would you take a step back and see whether it actually helped them or not?

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:30 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Jigsaw wrote:I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?
In your defense, you didn't call it the shittiest system, just a shitty system :p Of course there's worse.

I think the question if you're addicted or not is if you can actually quit without getting the urges. Though that's probably a blurry line between actual addiction and habit.

I wish weed or other drugs could comfort my general stress, anxiety, and depression...but the combination of weed not really effecting me much and it irritating my throat, the value just isn't there for me. Plus, prescription drugs that are supposed to help have way too many side effects I'd be comfortable.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:31 pm
by Foo
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Went to cut cable to lighten my financial load, they gave me 12 months at half off. I've always heard those companies really want people to stay with them, but never experienced it till now.

And coming down sick, so yay.
Mark it on your calendar to call them in 11.5 months. They love to jack it right back up. I always forget.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:34 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Foo wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:Went to cut cable to lighten my financial load, they gave me 12 months at half off. I've always heard those companies really want people to stay with them, but never experienced it till now.

And coming down sick, so yay.
Mark it on your calendar to call them in 11.5 months. They love to jack it right back up. I always forget.
Yeah, they do.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:34 pm
by Jigsaw
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?
In your defense, you didn't call it the shittiest system, just a shitty system :p Of course there's worse.

I think the question if you're addicted or not is if you can actually quit without getting the urges. Though that's probably a blurry line between actual addiction and habit.

I wish weed or other drugs could comfort my general stress, anxiety, and depression...but the combination of weed not really effecting me much and it irritating my throat, the value just isn't there for me. Plus, prescription drugs that are supposed to help have way too many side effects I'd be comfortable.
Indeed. Just because some countries have it far worse than we do doesn't make this country's system good. It's not difficult to understand that, so I think Foo is intentionally not understanding.

Depends on how you define urges. There was a two-year period when I had absolutely no weed. I wanted some at times, just like how you might sometimes want a coffee drink or a chocolate-covered pretzel.

Weed's not for everyone, which is why I have never forced anyone to try it. But if someone wants to try it, as long as their in a safe place, screw it, go ahead. What kind of asshole would I be to say "no, don't do that, you'll get addicted even though I can't answer how long you have to smoke before you can get addicted."

In quotes, that's supposed to be Foo, if you don't get it. :P

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:36 pm
by Foo
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.
My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.
if you knew someone in venezuela who was smoking weed to take their mind off of their shitty situation, would you tell them to just buck up and be productive instead, or would you take a step back and see whether it actually helped them or not?
If I cared about them, I would. I care about you guys. It hurts me to see you miserable. The easiest thing in the world would be to sit back and say it will all be ok if you stay on the same path.

When I am working with someone, we talk like this. When I am firing them, I tell them they should just keep on doing all the same stuff and everything will be great.

Have one right now. 35 years old, single mom, two baby daddies, custody of one kid, lives with parents and still smokes and parties despite telling everyone she sees she is the mother of the year. Will probably let her go within two weeks.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:39 pm
by DancesWithWerewolves
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.
My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.
if you knew someone in venezuela who was smoking weed to take their mind off of their shitty situation, would you tell them to just buck up and be productive instead, or would you take a step back and see whether it actually helped them or not?
If I cared about them, I would. I care about you guys. It hurts me to see you miserable. The easiest thing in the world would be to sit back and say it will all be ok if you stay on the same path.

When I am working with someone, we talk like this. When I am firing them, I tell them they should just keep on doing all the same stuff and everything will be great.

Have one right now. 35 years old, single mom, two baby daddies, custody of one kid, lives with parents and still smokes and parties despite telling everyone she sees she is the mother of the year. Will probably let her go within two weeks.
Because of you not approving her personal life or because she's a bad employee?

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:40 pm
by Foo
Jigsaw wrote:I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?
How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:46 pm
by Jigsaw
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?
How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.
:lol:

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:46 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Sniffing gasoline makes me happy! Obviously if it makes me happy, it is good!
no. you should be miserable with no way to ease it at all. just suffer through it cause it makes me feel more comfortable with you. i'll offer condemnation and judgment if you can't just suffer through it.
Have you tried being productive to ease the misery? Can't do the same things and expect different results.
yes. i've tried being productive. if trying to be productive doesn't work, do i keep trying it expecting different results?
Do you think your efforts at productivity would be similar to my idea of productivity? Again, find purpose. Become a part of something bigger that leads you to a better future. Escapism is only temporary.
no. probably not. but we're different people. i don't think i could ever make a business work the way you do. not everyone is going to be able to make that work, and more people are not going to ever be in a position to see if that could work.

how many other people does it take for you to be able to run your food truck? from actual co-workers to people delivering your goods for making the food. etc?

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:49 pm
by Foo
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:"Meaning steps"?

Who's to determine that? Right now I have little choice but to work because if I don't work, my family won't be able to get by because of this shitty system that you adore.

What replaces satisfaction is how difficult it is to actually get stuff done, not weed, which is a pleasant distraction from this shitty country.
My girlfriend has spent the last two days consoling her friend who was denied a student visa to come here. You don't know what a shitty country is.

Spend some time in Venezuela, if the people don't murder you to steal your shoes or find out what is in your wallet, you will emerge with a different perspective of "shitty". Maybe they murder you because you walked down the wrong road and think you witnessed them disposing of another body.

My future mother in law has to decide if she wants bars OVER her small yard that already has an electric fence.
if you knew someone in venezuela who was smoking weed to take their mind off of their shitty situation, would you tell them to just buck up and be productive instead, or would you take a step back and see whether it actually helped them or not?
If I cared about them, I would. I care about you guys. It hurts me to see you miserable. The easiest thing in the world would be to sit back and say it will all be ok if you stay on the same path.

When I am working with someone, we talk like this. When I am firing them, I tell them they should just keep on doing all the same stuff and everything will be great.

Have one right now. 35 years old, single mom, two baby daddies, custody of one kid, lives with parents and still smokes and parties despite telling everyone she sees she is the mother of the year. Will probably let her go within two weeks.
Because of you not approving her personal life or because she's a bad employee?
She is not trustworthy. She is the one I caught in a lie. So then, I felt like I could still work with her as long as she was supervised, but she kept throwing her lack of hours in my face and the fact that she is a single mom and has bills.

So, the single mom with bills has worked with us for two months, and has voluntarily taken off 9 days that would be about $1,200 in income, plus lost two more because of the lie. She complained one day because we did a catering job instead of a regular day. She lost $24 in pay, but each of the staff got $75 in tips. She says to me, "You know, if not for that big tip, I would not be able to pay my bills."

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:54 pm
by Foo
Jigsaw wrote:
Foo wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:I live in the USA, Foo. I know what a shitty country is. Because I live here.

Shouldn't be hard to comprehend.

Still wondering why I've not gotten addicted to weed, yet. Still haven't explained that one. How much does one need to smoke before becoming addicted?
How much? It is exactly, to the gram, the amount it takes for the drug to be a replacement for achievement.
:lol:

So not medical addiction, just whatever you determine addiction is. Got it. *thumbs up*
Sure, because I cut through the bullshit. You don't need a medical diagnosis to see addiction.

Re: September 7th 2018

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:57 pm
by zombie
Foo wrote:
If I cared about them, I would. I care about you guys. It hurts me to see you miserable. The easiest thing in the world would be to sit back and say it will all be ok if you stay on the same path.

When I am working with someone, we talk like this. When I am firing them, I tell them they should just keep on doing all the same stuff and everything will be great.

Have one right now. 35 years old, single mom, two baby daddies, custody of one kid, lives with parents and still smokes and parties despite telling everyone she sees she is the mother of the year. Will probably let her go within two weeks.
my path does not involve smoking weed. if i found that smoking weed made me feel better and thus more driven to be productive in the way that you want me to be, would you still tell me to stop? would you want me to find a different path?