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Jmac Attack wrote:*I tell people to eat bags of dicks all the time, in case people get offended lol*

Very homo insensitive sir.

Jmac Attack wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Prescription drug abuse is out of control. It would seem like something easy to get control of but doctors and pharmaceutical companies are just continuing to pump that poison out as much as possible.

When people couldn't get their Oxys refilled anymore, all it did was revitalize the market for heroin all over the country. It's completely out of control.

One Percocet 30mg, goes for $30 a pill around here. Balloon of heroin....$10. This town is littered full of addicts. All of South Central and Southern Ohio is some of the worst in the country. Problem is, opiates are highly addictive. Doctors prescribe them, and most take them as prescribed. It doesn't take long to get hooked, even taking their scheduled doses. Next thing ya know, you have an addict and people act like they are scrum. Can't afford rehab, etc. I live around these people. All they do is send them of to jail or prison. Ya know, to teach them a lesson.

If they were taking them only as prescribed, there would not be such a black market. Why pretend that is even the case? They are drug abusers. If not that it would be something else.

I was prescribed painkillers when I had my wisdom teeth out. I took the pill the dentist gave me at the office and threw the prescription away. The pain passed. We all make choices when it comes to these drugs. Time to quit telling people they are weak and unable to make good choices to avoid addiction.

Jmac Attack wrote:And to anyone that thinks all addicts should just die and good riddance, needs to eat a bag/bags of dicks. I have a couple of people that are like family, get hooked on opiates because of Drs prescribing them, become a full blown addict....only to come out of it through hard work. My singer in Sever for example.....had a back injury (still has issues with it), and now he has a huge house on Lake Michigan.....a kick pass boat, and a successful painting business. If only he would have died while being addicted.......that's just fucking stupid to me.

Quit blaming the doctors. I would bet anything they are hard partiers and were or would be addicts to other substances.

Also, I am happy for anyone succeeding, but I don't give bonus points for being an addict at some point. Plenty of people have the good sense to never touch the stuff and get no recognition.

Foo, take 5mg of any opiate 3x a day for 6 months, then let me know how you are feeling. Stop giving doctors a pass.

And I did the same as you when prescribed Vicoden for 2nd degree burns. Took two, and threw the rest away. But, I am not gonna clap for myself for doing the same thing you did. If I had chronic back pain, then maybe I would have taken all of those pills. I cant say I would not. As I am not above those who need them.

My good old conservative Catholic town is littered with opiate abusers. Sure, those who are addicted deserve some of the blame, but there are doctors who only see dollar signs. The patient listens to their doctor, takes them as prescribed, gets hooked, and you wanna put all the blame on them. That's bullshit. It could happen to you, even with your wealth of knowledge regarding medicine. That's just how I feel about that.

Jmac Attack wrote:Foo, take 5mg of any opiate 3x a day for 6 months, then let me know how you are feeling. Stop giving doctors a pass.

I am not doing that. There are checks and balances in life, and one of those are representing our own best interests.

There was a world before drugs.

Jmac Attack wrote:And I did the same as you when prescribed Vicoden for 2nd degree burns. Took two, and threw the rest away. But, I am not gonna clap for myself for doing the same thing you did. If I had chronic back pain, then maybe I would have taken all of those pills. I cant say I would not. As I am not above those who need them.

People find excuses to abuse. Very rare is the prescription drug addict who is not also over indulging in alcohol, weed, or both, gidven the opportunity.

Jmac Attack wrote:My good old conservative Catholic town is littered with opiate abusers. Sure, those who are addicted deserve some of the blame, but there are doctors who only see dollar signs. The patient listens to their doctor, takes them as prescribed, gets hooked, and you wanna put all the blame on them. That's bullshit. It could happen to you, even with your wealth of knowledge regarding medicine. That's just how I feel about that.

Don't take the pills. Quit blaming the doctors. We have free will.

And I do not believe for a second that the majority of addicts continue to take them as prescribed. They are taking too many, mixing them with alcohol and weed, etc.

We have lost all concept of abuse. Abuse is taking an Louis daily for chronic pain. Abuse is getting drunk regularly. Abuse is using despite the consequences.

I know people who go to a bar and get intoxicated once per week. They think that is not abuse because in their social circle getting drunk a few times per month is normal. It is abuse.

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:My good old conservative Catholic town is littered with opiate abusers. Sure, those who are addicted deserve some of the blame, but there are doctors who only see dollar signs. The patient listens to their doctor, takes them as prescribed, gets hooked, and you wanna put all the blame on them. That's bullshit. It could happen to you, even with your wealth of knowledge regarding medicine. That's just how I feel about that.

Don't take the pills. Quit blaming the doctors. We have free will.

And I do not believe for a second that the majority of addicts continue to take them as prescribed. They are taking too many, mixing them with alcohol and weed, etc.

We have lost all concept of abuse. Abuse is taking an Louis daily for chronic pain. Abuse is getting drunk regularly. Abuse is using despite the consequences.

I know people who go to a bar and get intoxicated once per week. They think that is not abuse because in their social circle getting drunk a few times per month is normal. It is abuse.

Eating too. Table salt kills more than anything.

DAEBO wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:My good old conservative Catholic town is littered with opiate abusers. Sure, those who are addicted deserve some of the blame, but there are doctors who only see dollar signs. The patient listens to their doctor, takes them as prescribed, gets hooked, and you wanna put all the blame on them. That's bullshit. It could happen to you, even with your wealth of knowledge regarding medicine. That's just how I feel about that.

Don't take the pills. Quit blaming the doctors. We have free will.

And I do not believe for a second that the majority of addicts continue to take them as prescribed. They are taking too many, mixing them with alcohol and weed, etc.

We have lost all concept of abuse. Abuse is taking an Louis daily for chronic pain. Abuse is getting drunk regularly. Abuse is using despite the consequences.

I know people who go to a bar and get intoxicated once per week. They think that is not abuse because in their social circle getting drunk a few times per month is normal. It is abuse.

Eating too. Table salt kills more than anything.

Sugar is a HUGE problem.

It's weird it doesn't have a stigma It should. They are the most abused of anything.

DAEBO wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:My good old conservative Catholic town is littered with opiate abusers. Sure, those who are addicted deserve some of the blame, but there are doctors who only see dollar signs. The patient listens to their doctor, takes them as prescribed, gets hooked, and you wanna put all the blame on them. That's bullshit. It could happen to you, even with your wealth of knowledge regarding medicine. That's just how I feel about that.

Don't take the pills. Quit blaming the doctors. We have free will.

And I do not believe for a second that the majority of addicts continue to take them as prescribed. They are taking too many, mixing them with alcohol and weed, etc.

We have lost all concept of abuse. Abuse is taking an Louis daily for chronic pain. Abuse is getting drunk regularly. Abuse is using despite the consequences.

I know people who go to a bar and get intoxicated once per week. They think that is not abuse because in their social circle getting drunk a few times per month is normal. It is abuse.

Eating too. Table salt kills more than anything.

Sure. What we eat is just as important. I would not blame food companies for my weight fluctuations, however. Nor would I expect society to pay for the consequences of anyone's good choices.

Reason being, the next step is people have to overpay or can't have access to sodas because some folks can't control themselves.

DAEBO wrote:It's weird it doesn't have a stigma It should. They are the most abused of anything.

Women have curves!

*250 pound woman rides through wal-mart on electric scooter*

Foo wrote:

DAEBO wrote:It's weird it doesn't have a stigma It should. They are the most abused of anything.

Women have curves!

*250 pound woman rides through wal-mart on electric scooter*

So, you're saying it's not addictive?

You don't think diabetes people take pills? You don't they overdose?

I'm actually with you on your argument, I'm just expanding

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Foo, take 5mg of any opiate 3x a day for 6 months, then let me know how you are feeling. Stop giving doctors a pass.

I am not doing that. There are checks and balances in life, and one of those are representing our own best interests.

There was a world before drugs.

The world before any drugs wasnot a great one. Medically speaking anyway.

DAEBO wrote:I'm actually with you on your argument, I'm just expanding

I said earlier that I agree, I just don't think it is so black and white as he does, is all. According to him, people cant ever make mistakes. He doesn't realize how addicting opiates are and people trust their doctors. But, yeah, they probably overeat or abuse alcohol anyway according to him. So.....die and good riddance. Lol

showa58taro wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:Foo, take 5mg of any opiate 3x a day for 6 months, then let me know how you are feeling. Stop giving doctors a pass.

I am not doing that. There are checks and balances in life, and one of those are representing our own best interests.

There was a world before drugs.

The world before any drugs wasnot a great one. Medically speaking anyway.

Weed has been around forever!