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Tiggnutz wrote:Watched the whole Steelers Chiefs game. Mahomes is no flash in the pan kid is amazing has every tool in his bag with poise...scary

No doubt. He will be a top 5 qb this year and in the future. Very very impressed. Browns need to start Mayfield. He was making insane throws in pre-season. I get that Tyrod is a vet who has had some success. But he isn't even half of Dalton good. Nawm sayin'?

Headhunter wrote:Elway cheaping out on paying Wade was sure a great move.

Man....wish I could watch that game. Reddit used to be a good source. I tried the other night, and couldn't get shit.

Jmac Attack wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Watched the whole Steelers Chiefs game. Mahomes is no flash in the pan kid is amazing has every tool in his bag with poise...scary

No doubt. He will be a top 5 qb this year and in the future. Very very impressed. Browns need to start Mayfield. He was making insane throws in pre-season. I get that Tyrod is a vet who has had some success. But he isn't even half of Dalton good. Nawm sayin'?

I agree Baker is just better than Tyrod and gives a better chance of winning he's learning nothing watching Tyrod play

Brandon McMoney.

Case isn't good but at least he has balls, unlike the previous bums.

The excitement of the comeback really masks what a lame performance that was. Gruden got too cute in the second half.

Tiggnutz wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Watched the whole Steelers Chiefs game. Mahomes is no flash in the pan kid is amazing has every tool in his bag with poise...scary

No doubt. He will be a top 5 qb this year and in the future. Very very impressed. Browns need to start Mayfield. He was making insane throws in pre-season. I get that Tyrod is a vet who has had some success. But he isn't even half of Dalton good. Nawm sayin'?

I agree Baker is just better than Tyrod and gives a better chance of winning he's learning nothing watching Tyrod play

Tyrod is excellent at picking up the first down when it's 3rd and 6......but only from running. He looked way better with the Bills.

I honestly believe DeSean Jackson has had a Hall of Fame career. I believe that constitutes a hot take.

Think he'll get cockblocked like TO?

I don't know if there's any agenda thing there, I just don't think he's viewed by most people the same way I view him. He's the most dangerous deep threat the league has seen since Randy Moss and one of the few WRs who dictates what a defense can do every time he's on the field. It's really hard to make the Hall if you were never considered one of the top 3-5 guys at your position, and he's never been that guy.

It's very early but Tyreek Hill might be the guy in the DeSean mold who makes it. Just started his third year and he's on pace to blow away DeSean's big play production. A little more versatile, more physical, just a little bit faster and will have a great QB throwing to him for years. As an opposing fan, he scares me more than any receiver in football.

Headhunter wrote:I honestly believe DeSean Jackson has had a Hall of Fame career. I believe that constitutes a hot take.

2-3% chance

If Torry Holt is struggling to get in, Jackson has no chance.

Take DeSean Jackson's best year. It was basically what an average year was in Torry Holt's 8 year prime.

Jackson is gonna play longer, and it looks like he is still productive, so he will start to get closer in counting stats, but I think the case for him has already been closed because he never had that decent stretch of being All Pro level.

I knew it. I fucking knew the Patriots would pick up Gordon. I fucking knew it.

Foo wrote:

Headhunter wrote:I honestly believe DeSean Jackson has had a Hall of Fame career. I believe that constitutes a hot take.

2-3% chance

If Torry Holt is struggling to get in, Jackson has no chance.

Take DeSean Jackson's best year. It was basically what an average year was in Torry Holt's 8 year prime.

Jackson is gonna play longer, and it looks like he is still productive, so he will start to get closer in counting stats, but I think the case for him has already been closed because he never had that decent stretch of being All Pro level.

Oh he has 0% chance. I think 2009-2010 DeSean was All-Pro level but people won't remember what a nightmare he was for defenses every week, they'll just see the numbers which are good but don't stand out in any way.

I think he just broke Jerry Rice's record for most 60+ yard TDs. Or maybe tied it idk

Fitzy must be as good as Joe Montana.

Hall-of-Fame his ass too.

No.

Over/under line for Von Miller sacks this Sunday is 2.Over or Under pick one I say Over

Tiggnutz wrote:Over/under line for Von Miller sacks this Sunday is 2.Over or Under pick one I say Over

Under but the line should really be 1.5, no? I assume he'll be doubled/chipped plenty, he'll get one early and then they'll probably scheme him out.

I'm guessing the Ravens' RT is one of 20 or more NFL RTs who aren't good?

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Over/under line for Von Miller sacks this Sunday is 2.Over or Under pick one I say Over

Under but the line should really be 1.5, no? I assume he'll be doubled/chipped plenty, he'll get one early and then they'll probably scheme him out.

I'm guessing the Ravens' RT is one of 20 or more NFL RTs who aren't good?

line ranked 28th in the league

Tiggnutz wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Tiggnutz wrote:Over/under line for Von Miller sacks this Sunday is 2.Over or Under pick one I say Over

Under but the line should really be 1.5, no? I assume he'll be doubled/chipped plenty, he'll get one early and then they'll probably scheme him out.

I'm guessing the Ravens' RT is one of 20 or more NFL RTs who aren't good?

line ranked 28th in the league

With a good game plan, you guys will be fine. You can really take our rushers out of the game with short passes on 1st down + a power run game. Then, you'll be able to take some shots downfield off play action. Without Talib, our corners are downgraded at two spots.

I think this game will be a disaster for Denver. They almost never play well in Baltimore and have looked pretty mediocre at home against two teams who will be drafting in the top 10 next year.

I still put Miller at 2.5 sacks