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CNN blames Trump for violence

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... 4a551af4c2

Still waiting for them to accept blame for the guy who shot up the Republican softball game a couple years ago...
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sanders did make a statement about the shooter's connection to his campaign. and disavowed him and his actions.

trump is not responsible for the shit today. but the political climate, from both sides, probably did play a part in it happening. cnn does a lot to incite harassment, if not violence, themselves. but this is like blaming marilyn manson for columbine. or some violent movie for a more recent shooting or some other stupid crap. blame the people who actually did it. look for how they could have been stopped. don't use it to play some kind of political blame game.
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zombie wrote:sanders did make a statement about the shooter's connection to his campaign. and disavowed him and his actions.

trump is not responsible for the shit today. but the political climate, from both sides, probably did play a part in it happening. cnn does a lot to incite harassment, if not violence, themselves. but this is like blaming marilyn manson for columbine. or some violent movie for a more recent shooting or some other stupid crap. blame the people who actually did it. look for how they could have been stopped. don't use it to play some kind of political blame game.
Do you see how CNN even making such a claim is the biggest part of the problem in the political climate?

The so-called unbiased media amping up rhetoric despite Trump condemning the actions, and there being no suspect or motive discovered?
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zombie wrote:sanders did make a statement about the shooter's connection to his campaign. and disavowed him and his actions.

trump is not responsible for the shit today. but the political climate, from both sides, probably did play a part in it happening. cnn does a lot to incite harassment, if not violence, themselves. but this is like blaming marilyn manson for columbine. or some violent movie for a more recent shooting or some other stupid crap. blame the people who actually did it. look for how they could have been stopped. don't use it to play some kind of political blame game.
Do you see how CNN even making such a claim is the biggest part of the problem in the political climate?

The so-called unbiased media amping up rhetoric despite Trump condemning the actions, and there being no suspect or motive discovered?
in this particular instance, yeah. i'm not going to pretend that all of the fault for the political climate as it is, comes from the left. but that does have a large part in it.
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zombie wrote:sanders did make a statement about the shooter's connection to his campaign. and disavowed him and his actions.

trump is not responsible for the shit today. but the political climate, from both sides, probably did play a part in it happening. cnn does a lot to incite harassment, if not violence, themselves. but this is like blaming marilyn manson for columbine. or some violent movie for a more recent shooting or some other stupid crap. blame the people who actually did it. look for how they could have been stopped. don't use it to play some kind of political blame game.
Do you see how CNN even making such a claim is the biggest part of the problem in the political climate?

The so-called unbiased media amping up rhetoric despite Trump condemning the actions, and there being no suspect or motive discovered?
in this particular instance, yeah. i'm not going to pretend that all of the fault for the political climate as it is, comes from the left. but that does have a large part in it.
It always comes from the side not getting their way. I feel like this was tantamount to a call for escalation or retaliation rather than a call for civility, which coming from an organization constantly beating the drum that they are unbiased news is really out there.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:sanders did make a statement about the shooter's connection to his campaign. and disavowed him and his actions.

trump is not responsible for the shit today. but the political climate, from both sides, probably did play a part in it happening. cnn does a lot to incite harassment, if not violence, themselves. but this is like blaming marilyn manson for columbine. or some violent movie for a more recent shooting or some other stupid crap. blame the people who actually did it. look for how they could have been stopped. don't use it to play some kind of political blame game.
Do you see how CNN even making such a claim is the biggest part of the problem in the political climate?

The so-called unbiased media amping up rhetoric despite Trump condemning the actions, and there being no suspect or motive discovered?
in this particular instance, yeah. i'm not going to pretend that all of the fault for the political climate as it is, comes from the left. but that does have a large part in it.
It always comes from the side not getting their way. I feel like this was tantamount to a call for escalation or retaliation rather than a call for civility, which coming from an organization constantly beating the drum that they are unbiased news is really out there.
it is an incitement for escalation. i wish that someone in the public eye would actually try to work toward civility and calm and mend the divide, rather than look at how to widen it.
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I believe it is also a statement about how good things really are right now. Probably less fighting in the world than at any point in history. Little things must be escalated to alter the political landscape.
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i cannot share this sentiment. :P
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Also, weeks ago someone sent envelopes containing Ricin to republicans. Why is this incident so much different?

It feels like a Bernie supporter shooting up a Republican softball game is frowned upon, sending poisonous letters to Republicans is frowned upon, but when someone messes with the Dems...now we need to start throwing the blame!
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zombie wrote:i cannot share this sentiment. :P
Would you agree that war would top the list of man-made tragedy?

Would you agree that our country is engaging in less war now than anytime in our lifetime? In our lifetimes, when has our president been able to visit with the leaders of Russia, North Korea, China, etc.? The terror groups in the middle east have been beat down to their knees, and we are safer from foreign threats than we have ever been.

The fact that we argue over people getting their boobie touched 35 years ago rather than 19 year olds dying by the hundreds or thousands represents a lot.
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zombie wrote:i cannot share this sentiment. :P
Would you agree that war would top the list of man-made tragedy?

Would you agree that our country is engaging in less war now than anytime in our lifetime? In our lifetimes, when has our president been able to visit with the leaders of Russia, North Korea, China, etc.? The terror groups in the middle east have been beat down to their knees, and we are safer from foreign threats than we have ever been.

The fact that we argue over people getting their boobie touched 35 years ago rather than 19 year olds dying by the hundreds or thousands represents a lot.
we have argued about comparatively trivial stuff, among school shootings and terrorist attacks. but there is less big war. that's true.
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We have thousands upon thousands of troups in areas considered to be hostile or war zones. We have had 12 casualties this year. Not trying to diminish those deaths, but we lost 72,000 people to drug overdoses last year.
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Foo wrote:We have thousands upon thousands of troups in areas considered to be hostile or war zones. We have had 12 casualties this year. Not trying to diminish those deaths, but we lost 72,000 people to drug overdoses last year.
and yet, it feels like we're more divided on a social level, than any other time in our lifetime at least. we are more at odds politically. we are more at odds socially. or at least, it's being played up more from all sides, if it's not actual.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:We have thousands upon thousands of troups in areas considered to be hostile or war zones. We have had 12 casualties this year. Not trying to diminish those deaths, but we lost 72,000 people to drug overdoses last year.
and yet, it feels like we're more divided on a social level, than any other time in our lifetime at least. we are more at odds politically. we are more at odds socially. or at least, it's being played up more from all sides, if it's not actual.
But even then, compare the piddly bullshit now to slavery, women voting, social security, and other landmark things. People are fighting about small bullshit because the big stuff is decided. It really is a great time in history. We have come to agreement on like 98% of things, and now just push on each other about small stuff.
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The CNN thing? Greed to get ratings and clicks to get money. They don't care about you, me, or the country.

They hit upon a cinder and throw gas on it to get ratings. "White woman calls police on black man for staring at her!". Ok, so what?
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:We have thousands upon thousands of troups in areas considered to be hostile or war zones. We have had 12 casualties this year. Not trying to diminish those deaths, but we lost 72,000 people to drug overdoses last year.
and yet, it feels like we're more divided on a social level, than any other time in our lifetime at least. we are more at odds politically. we are more at odds socially. or at least, it's being played up more from all sides, if it's not actual.
But even then, compare the piddly bullshit now to slavery, women voting, social security, and other landmark things. People are fighting about small bullshit because the big stuff is decided. It really is a great time in history. We have come to agreement on like 98% of things, and now just push on each other about small stuff.
in our lifetimes, i said. we have come a long way compared to our history as a country.
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And conservatives blamed Obama for riots and police hate. He said "If I had a son, he would look like that." But Trump can say he likes guys who body slam reporters and we can't ask him to tone it down a little. Lol.
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Foo wrote:Also, weeks ago someone sent envelopes containing Ricin to republicans. Why is this incident so much different?

It feels like a Bernie supporter shooting up a Republican softball game is frowned upon, sending poisonous letters to Republicans is frowned upon, but when someone messes with the Dems...now we need to start throwing the blame!
Everyone condemned the dude who shot at and injured a Republican and called it a terrorist act. The ricin was reported too. I read about it. This has been a massive target and an act of terrorism. All of these absolutely should be condemned.
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zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:We have thousands upon thousands of troups in areas considered to be hostile or war zones. We have had 12 casualties this year. Not trying to diminish those deaths, but we lost 72,000 people to drug overdoses last year.
and yet, it feels like we're more divided on a social level, than any other time in our lifetime at least. we are more at odds politically. we are more at odds socially. or at least, it's being played up more from all sides, if it's not actual.
But even then, compare the piddly bullshit now to slavery, women voting, social security, and other landmark things. People are fighting about small bullshit because the big stuff is decided. It really is a great time in history. We have come to agreement on like 98% of things, and now just push on each other about small stuff.
in our lifetimes, i said. we have come a long way compared to our history as a country.
Like, for instance, 20 years ago when Democrats and Republicans alike agreed marriage was between a man and a woman and every major party politician agreed to make a law about it?
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Jmac Attack wrote:And conservatives blamed Obama for riots and police hate. He said "If I had a son, he would look like that." But Trump can say he likes guys who body slam reporters and we can't ask him to tone it down a little. Lol.
Don't give me your Whataboutism! :p

Do you know the reporter did not deserve to be body slammed? BTW, was it a scoop slam, powerslam, or like an Oklahoma stampede where he rammed him into the turnbuckle first?
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