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Seeing IT at 2:40 today

Want to see It: Chapter 2 again this weekend, hopefully I can squeeze out the cash

Saw IT last night. Pretty damn good.

Nice. Glad you liked it

Going to make IT my last horror movie until the Challenge I want to start October starving for horror movies

That’s brave.

I gave IT (2017) a 7 and since Saturday I've been mulling over what to give Chapter Two and i'm most likely looking at a 6. For 3 hours it felt rushed and disjointed, lost a lot of atmosphere, repeated story arch for each character, some moments of bad decisions, the De-aging stood out in a few parts (Mainly the underground clubhouse) and I felt Mcavoy was miscast as Bill. Seeing the deleted scenes from Chapter one inserted back into Chapter Two was odd, but oh well. Then the good. The direction, camera transitions and creature/monster moments were decent. Richie and Eddie was good as well.

The only thing I've had to complain about was the cgi. Which I slightly let slide with the first movie because of the lower budget, but this one had almost twice the budget and yeah I know it was mainly to compensate the adult actors, but the first movie made a fuck-ton of money, they could've easily used more to polish up some of those cgi spots, especially if they were going to have more of it.

But a step down from the first is pretty much the consensus. I gave the first a 9/10 I think, while this one I gave an 8. The gap is a lot closer to the first movie than the massive gap with the miniseries' parts.

I loved Chapter 1 I liked Chapter 2. Need to let it soak in before any grading

I also can't unsee Ritchie's shirt replicating one of Jesse's shirts in Nightmare on Elm Street 2. That had to be intentional.

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:The only thing I've had to complain about was the cgi. Which I slightly let slide with the first movie because of the lower budget, but this one had almost twice the budget and yeah I know it was mainly to compensate the adult actors, but the first movie made a fuck-ton of money, they could've easily used more to polish up some of those cgi spots, especially if they were going to have more of it.

But a step down from the first is pretty much the consensus. I gave the first a 9/10 I think, while this one I gave an 8. The gap is a lot closer to the first movie than the massive gap with the miniseries' parts.

The flaming head Bev scene was god awful, that was akin to Syfy channel/Asylum quality bad.

I gave chapter 1 a grade of A this is in the C+ range and that is a bummer because I had expected alot better.

Think the CGI definitely lets it down in the non-pennywise bits (as in when he’s a clown) but I still liked it. And it did t feel too long.

Apparently the Paul Bunyan scene was a direct request from King.

Havok wrote:

DancesWithWerewolves wrote:The only thing I've had to complain about was the cgi. Which I slightly let slide with the first movie because of the lower budget, but this one had almost twice the budget and yeah I know it was mainly to compensate the adult actors, but the first movie made a fuck-ton of money, they could've easily used more to polish up some of those cgi spots, especially if they were going to have more of it.

But a step down from the first is pretty much the consensus. I gave the first a 9/10 I think, while this one I gave an 8. The gap is a lot closer to the first movie than the massive gap with the miniseries' parts.

The flaming head Bev scene was god awful, that was akin to Syfy channel/Asylum quality bad.

Yeah I think that special effect was the biggest eyesore for me.

showa58taro wrote:Think the CGI definitely lets it down in the non-pennywise bits (as in when he’s a clown) but I still liked it. And it did t feel too long.

Apparently the Paul Bunyan scene was a direct request from King.

Never felt long for me either. In fact, when they went down for the final confrontation, I thought "we're here already? damn."

I do think the Losers got back to Derry too quick. I didn't think of that before, but the chinese restaurant sequence just appeared too soon for me.

But that's nitpicking.

Having not read the book some of the gripes I hear seem very odd and purist. “Bill’s wife wasn’t in it much” seems irrelevant. As does the complaint that Mike gets to the finale. Bloody weird to care about stuff not adapted when it’s a 1k page cocaine-fueled mess of a book in parts.

It felt long for me I was bored a few times

If anything I’d have had more character reunion bits and development if that alongside the rest.

I also really like the subtle background Pennywise bits.

showa58taro wrote:Having not read the book some of the gripes I hear seem very odd and purist. “Bill’s wife wasn’t in it much” seems irrelevant. As does the complaint that Mike gets to the finale. Bloody weird to care about stuff not adapted when it’s a 1k page cocaine-fueled mess of a book in parts.

I can only understand the griping of it not being 100% faithful if certain things are legitimately better. Most of the changes were about the same level of quality to me. And I liked allowing Ritchie to be a closet gay. It elevates the Adrian Melon murder at the beginning to meaning more because of Pennywise's taint on the town. In particular, this homophobic taint, that causes Ritchie to grow up locking that away. (Eddie was the one I always felt was possibly gay in the book, but let's not kill 2 gay characters in this climate, amirite?) I don't think the book's ending is better, because as the running joke says, the ending in general is just disappointing considering all the goods that comes before it. At least it isn't the miniseries ending

His wife following in the original always seemed a little forced to me (like a damsel needing rescued bit, we already got that in the first movie with Bev...mainly because they weren't sure if they'd do the adult half so they loaded their basket). I kept expecting her to show up here, until I realized we're at a near 3 hour movie already, so cramming her plotline in would be too much.