Evoking Adolf Hitler and calling for racial genocide is not equivalent to either case, so no, because I'm not stupid.Foo wrote:Would you advocate firing everyone from their jobs because the attend a Bkack Lives Matter protest? How about a marijuana legalization rally?Headhunter wrote:Why do you hate personal responsibility so much, Foo? HE destroyed himself, not the media. Why you're so hurt by the idea that people can be held accountable for having disgusting beliefs is beyond me. Why is Mel Gibson entitled to that unique privilege?
For reference, every one of these Charlottesville losers deserve to lose their jobs if spotted by their employers. I know conservatives don't understand the concept of free speech constitutionally at all, but it doesn't protect you from consequences in the private sector. Don't be mad people chose not to work with a POS, be mad at the POS for publicly exposing what a POS he is. That's his fault.
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So unfair that Mel Gibson had to face the consequences of his hate speech. Gotta blame everyone but the bigot!
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I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
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Okay, here's a hypothetical that actually works.Foo wrote:I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
You have to hire Mel Gibson. Even if you hate every aspect of the man and what he stands for, he's entitled to a job and if you don't hire him you'e being unfair.
Total loser talk.
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So basically, you will tolerate some times of politics and not others, and those you do not tolerate deserve to lose their jobs?Headhunter wrote:Evoking Adolf Hitler and calling for racial genocide is not equivalent to either case, so no, because I'm not stupid.Foo wrote:Would you advocate firing everyone from their jobs because the attend a Bkack Lives Matter protest? How about a marijuana legalization rally?Headhunter wrote:Why do you hate personal responsibility so much, Foo? HE destroyed himself, not the media. Why you're so hurt by the idea that people can be held accountable for having disgusting beliefs is beyond me. Why is Mel Gibson entitled to that unique privilege?
For reference, every one of these Charlottesville losers deserve to lose their jobs if spotted by their employers. I know conservatives don't understand the concept of free speech constitutionally at all, but it doesn't protect you from consequences in the private sector. Don't be mad people chose not to work with a POS, be mad at the POS for publicly exposing what a POS he is. That's his fault.
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It is not politics to suggest black people are or are not not human beings. So no.Foo wrote:So basically, you will tolerate some times of politics and not others, and those you do not tolerate deserve to lose their jobs?Headhunter wrote:Evoking Adolf Hitler and calling for racial genocide is not equivalent to either case, so no, because I'm not stupid.Foo wrote:Would you advocate firing everyone from their jobs because the attend a Bkack Lives Matter protest? How about a marijuana legalization rally?Headhunter wrote:Why do you hate personal responsibility so much, Foo? HE destroyed himself, not the media. Why you're so hurt by the idea that people can be held accountable for having disgusting beliefs is beyond me. Why is Mel Gibson entitled to that unique privilege?
For reference, every one of these Charlottesville losers deserve to lose their jobs if spotted by their employers. I know conservatives don't understand the concept of free speech constitutionally at all, but it doesn't protect you from consequences in the private sector. Don't be mad people chose not to work with a POS, be mad at the POS for publicly exposing what a POS he is. That's his fault.
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So Foo, why should people have been forced to work with or hire Mel Gibson? What's unfair about personal choice?
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Can Mel flip burgers? He seems spry and witty. Would hire.Headhunter wrote:Okay, here's a hypothetical that actually works.Foo wrote:I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
You have to hire Mel Gibson. Even if you hate every aspect of the man and what he stands for, he's entitled to a job and if you don't hire him you'e being unfair.
Total loser talk.
I would also hire Malcom X to flip burgers if he was alive. Or Fidel Castro. Hugo Chavez, not so much, looked lethargic to me. Now Putin, you know that dude will work...
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"It's so unfair that a rich celebrity could ever be held accountable for his bigotry!"
Does Hollywood need a "bigot" quota to promote the fairness you're looking for? I didn't know you sought expansion to Affirmative Action.
Does Hollywood need a "bigot" quota to promote the fairness you're looking for? I didn't know you sought expansion to Affirmative Action.
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Foo- "I think you're the perfect candidate for the job. Is there anything you want to say before we end this interview?"
Applicant- "Yeah, I hate whitey, and yo mom's a ho."
Foo- "You're hired. We value diversity of opinions here!"
Applicant- "Yeah, I hate whitey, and yo mom's a ho."
Foo- "You're hired. We value diversity of opinions here!"
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Is being forced to work with the opposite of blackballing?Headhunter wrote:So Foo, why should people have been forced to work with or hire Mel Gibson? What's unfair about personal choice?
No one should be forced to. Seems odd there is no market for a person with his accomplishments, though.
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So nobody should have any personal choice in who they will or won't work. And it's everyone's fault but the guy who put himself in that position. Again, Foo, why do you hate personal responsibility so much?Foo wrote:Can Mel flip burgers? He seems spry and witty. Would hire.Headhunter wrote:Okay, here's a hypothetical that actually works.Foo wrote:I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
You have to hire Mel Gibson. Even if you hate every aspect of the man and what he stands for, he's entitled to a job and if you don't hire him you'e being unfair.
Total loser talk.
I would also hire Malcom X to flip burgers if he was alive. Or Fidel Castro. Hugo Chavez, not so much, looked lethargic to me. Now Putin, you know that dude will work...
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It is well known that people can say anything to me as long as they work and treat the customers with respect. If I have a problem with one, it is almost assuredly because they are not doing enough, not because they are saying too much.Jmac Attack wrote:Foo- "I think you're the perfect candidate for the job. Is there anything you want to say before we end this interview?"
Applicant- "Yeah, I hate whitey, and yo mom's a ho."
Foo- "You're hired. We value diversity of opinions here!"
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Uh, this may be news to you, but a group of people choosing not to work with someone known to be a piece of shit is not black balling, it's common sense, but cue the unfounded conspiracy theories.Foo wrote:Is being forced to work with the opposite of blackballing?Headhunter wrote:So Foo, why should people have been forced to work with or hire Mel Gibson? What's unfair about personal choice?
No one should be forced to. Seems odd there is no market for a person with his accomplishments, though.
Who was it that ranted about Jews? Who told a woman she should be raped by niggers? Who is responsible for those statements and their ensuing consequences?
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To me, it is all whining. Go to work, work hard, go home. I hope people can have fun in the process. People should be more focused on making themselves better, not he person they work with. Everyone has flaws, but ultimately we can only effectively address our own.Headhunter wrote:So nobody should have any personal choice in who they will or won't work. And it's everyone's fault but the guy who put himself in that position. Again, Foo, why do you hate personal responsibility so much?Foo wrote:Can Mel flip burgers? He seems spry and witty. Would hire.Headhunter wrote:Okay, here's a hypothetical that actually works.Foo wrote:I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
You have to hire Mel Gibson. Even if you hate every aspect of the man and what he stands for, he's entitled to a job and if you don't hire him you'e being unfair.
Total loser talk.
I would also hire Malcom X to flip burgers if he was alive. Or Fidel Castro. Hugo Chavez, not so much, looked lethargic to me. Now Putin, you know that dude will work...
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Foo is actually arguing that bigots deserve affirmative action because the consequences of being exposed as racist/sexist/etc. are "unfair". You can't make this stuff up.
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Wasn't he whole raping thing a warning about not hanging out with certain types, rather than a threat?Headhunter wrote:Uh, this may be news to you, but a group of people choosing not to work with someone known to be a piece of shit is not black balling, it's common sense, but cue the unfounded conspiracy theories.Foo wrote:Is being forced to work with the opposite of blackballing?Headhunter wrote:So Foo, why should people have been forced to work with or hire Mel Gibson? What's unfair about personal choice?
No one should be forced to. Seems odd there is no market for a person with his accomplishments, though.
Who was it that ranted about Jews? Who told a woman she should be raped by niggers? Who is responsible for those statements and their ensuing consequences?
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Everyone is racist and sexist. No affirmative action needed.Headhunter wrote:Foo is actually arguing that bigots deserve affirmative action because the consequences of being exposed as racist/sexist/etc. are "unfair". You can't make this stuff up.
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So, you would roll the dice and hope that the dude wouldn't be more likely to spit in whiteys burgers?Foo wrote:It is well known that people can say anything to me as long as they work and treat the customers with respect. If I have a problem with one, it is almost assuredly because they are not doing enough, not because they are saying too much.Jmac Attack wrote:Foo- "I think you're the perfect candidate for the job. Is there anything you want to say before we end this interview?"
Applicant- "Yeah, I hate whitey, and yo mom's a ho."
Foo- "You're hired. We value diversity of opinions here!"
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Agreed, it's all whining. Whining from anyone who thinks Mel Gibson deserves the special privilege of avoiding consequences. Because of course nobody can ever be held to account for their actions, that would be unfair..Foo wrote:To me, it is all whining. Go to work, work hard, go home. I hope people can have fun in the process. People should be more focused on making themselves better, not he person they work with. Everyone has flaws, but ultimately we can only effectively address our own.Headhunter wrote:So nobody should have any personal choice in who they will or won't work. And it's everyone's fault but the guy who put himself in that position. Again, Foo, why do you hate personal responsibility so much?Foo wrote:Can Mel flip burgers? He seems spry and witty. Would hire.Headhunter wrote:Okay, here's a hypothetical that actually works.Foo wrote:I employ people who certainly feel differently than I do. One employee is a believer in black liberation movements and the other has bumper stickers all over her car about taxing the rich, taxing the churches, Bernie sanders, etc.
I ask them to not wear shirts with statements and to not park their car in sight. We chat all the time. Why should it be a problem?
You have to hire Mel Gibson. Even if you hate every aspect of the man and what he stands for, he's entitled to a job and if you don't hire him you'e being unfair.
Total loser talk.
I would also hire Malcom X to flip burgers if he was alive. Or Fidel Castro. Hugo Chavez, not so much, looked lethargic to me. Now Putin, you know that dude will work...
He made his bed, nobody else did. Stop crying for him, the only injustice in the whole thing was the media hyping up his "comeback" story.
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