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For example, in a free and transparent world, President Kennedy receives a proposed bill by the CIA to kill an undisclosed amount of citizens in order to start a war, not only should he veto it, but it should be brought to the attention of the public. "Look what these fuckers just put on my desk", etc... But it's clear that there are things put in place that prevent us from knowing the true goings on.
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it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.

have you seen arlington road, by chance? :P
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:03 pm For example, in a free and transparent world, President Kennedy receives a proposed bill by the CIA to kill an undisclosed amount of citizens in order to start a war, not only should he veto it, but it should be brought to the attention of the public. "Look what these fuckers just put on my desk", etc... But it's clear that there are things put in place that prevent us from knowing the true goings on.

that would start crazy riots and a crazy police response, if the public took it seriously. teachers were telling students to hide under their desks because of just the possibility of a russian bomb. :P
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And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.

have you seen arlington road, by chance? :P
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.

have you seen arlington road, by chance? :P
No. Is it good?
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
but they already have global control for decades if you listen to the people calling them out. but the world isn't destroyed. what are they waiting for, and how did they not account for someone who has been flirting with the presidency since the 80s?
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.
Styxhexendude has pretty good youtube content.

Speculation is really all we can truly run on unless you just want to believe what a certain source says about your favorite and least favorite candidates. I watched a documentary once about the controversial tower 7 building falling down on September 11th. It looks like a controlled demolition and there have been speculation for decades about whether or not it fell from heavy damage or was actually demolished. I haven't really fully formed an opinion on that whole thing and who I think is truly responsible, but to make a super long story short, in the documentary I saw, the guy that bought the World Trade Center two months before the attacks (Larry Silverstein) is on video saying he decided they needed to "pull it", meaning he decided to have tower 7 demolished. He's on video saying it was his decision to bring the building down. Problem is you need to rig the entire building with explosives which would take a hell of a lot longer than a couple of hours in between the two towers falling and the demolition of tower 7. The documentary is now impossible to find on youtube and tons of information has been scrubbed. You can see videos like this on rumble, though. And that is yet another giant can of worms.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.
Styxhexendude has pretty good youtube content.

Speculation is really all we can truly run on unless you just want to believe what a certain source says about your favorite and least favorite candidates. I watched a documentary once about the controversial tower 7 building falling down on September 11th. It looks like a controlled demolition and there have been speculation for decades about whether or not it fell from heavy damage or was actually demolished. I haven't really fully formed an opinion on that whole thing and who I think is truly responsible, but to make a super long story short, in the documentary I saw, the guy that bought the World Trade Center two months before the attacks (Larry Silverstein) is on video saying he decided they needed to "pull it", meaning he decided to have tower 7 demolished. He's on video saying it was his decision to bring the building down. Problem is you need to rig the entire building with explosives which would take a hell of a lot longer than a couple of hours in between the two towers falling and the demolition of tower 7. The documentary is now impossible to find on youtube and tons of information has been scrubbed. You can see videos like this on rumble, though. And that is yet another giant can of worms.
there are degrees of speculation and degrees of trust in your own speculation, or in speculation by others, even. how much do you let that affect how you view politics. how much do you let that affect how you view the people around you. be wary of the sources your choosing to trust just as much as those you're choosing not to.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
He’s not the only president that didn’t get us into new wars. Where did you get that from?
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:16 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
but they already have global control for decades it you listen to the people calling them out. but the world isn't destroyed. what are they waiting for, and how did they not account for someone who has been flirting with the presidency since the 80s?
I think they're genuinely terrified that Trump has the key to open the door that exposes their corruption and ends their stranglehold on the world. The government and media proclaimed that there was no doubt the disease originated from a Chinese person eating a bat. Speculation arose about it being formed in a lab which was ridiculed by every leftist media outlet on the planet and now it's well known that it was created in the lab and now nobody is talking about it. If it was created in a lab, how did it get leaked? Was it an accident? Was it leaked on purpose? The timing of crazy shit like this happening during an election year is a constant. Something bizarre always happens on the dot.

My best read through all of this gray area shit (and of course, I am fully admitting I could be wrong) is that they thought in 2016 that he was too big of an underdog to get control so they banked on HIlary winning and it backfired. In 2017 in Fauci's own words he said "No doubt Trump will face a deadly infectious disease outbreak during his presidency". They probably released Covid on purpose so they could use lockdowns under the guise of everyone needing to be protective of grandma, that way they could implement heavy mail-in ballots to rig the 2020 election. This is my best read, because I just find it extremely odd that in the previous elections there was always a steady rise of a couple million total votes and it was generally in the 50-60 million range and then suddenly in 2020, the election freezes in the middle of the night, all the fortified swing states that Trump had a commanding lead in over the course of weeks and months of counting the votes slowly evaporates and Joe Biden makes the biggest comeback ever in the history of anything. Joe Biden gets 81 million votes, out of nowhere and suddenly he's the winner. I read somewhere someone prophesizing this would happen about a month before that election took place and on election night I was waiting for it to happen. I was watching live as the votes suddenly stopped coming in and I knew in my heart it was done and they rigged it for Biden. I don't remember who said it or where I read it, but how could someone predict that happening exactly how it happened? When he announced he was running again in 2024, I realized that they would do everything they possibly could to prevent Trump from winning again. I fully expected someone to take a shot at him, and that happened too. It's just too big of a coincidence for me to believe that this shit isn't orchestrated by the corrupt world leaders that we never see or hear of.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:33 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
He’s not the only president that didn’t get us into new wars. Where did you get that from?
I meant in my lifetime, sorry.
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:24 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:18 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:06 pm it's fun to speculate, and i guess you can vote based on speculation but don't let it consume you. there isn't really a way to know if it is the government, or if it's actually some iranian or pakistani guy plotting or even just styxhexenhammer trying to stir shit up for his own reasons. don't fall down the rabbit hole too far, unnecessarily.
Styxhexendude has pretty good youtube content.

Speculation is really all we can truly run on unless you just want to believe what a certain source says about your favorite and least favorite candidates. I watched a documentary once about the controversial tower 7 building falling down on September 11th. It looks like a controlled demolition and there have been speculation for decades about whether or not it fell from heavy damage or was actually demolished. I haven't really fully formed an opinion on that whole thing and who I think is truly responsible, but to make a super long story short, in the documentary I saw, the guy that bought the World Trade Center two months before the attacks (Larry Silverstein) is on video saying he decided they needed to "pull it", meaning he decided to have tower 7 demolished. He's on video saying it was his decision to bring the building down. Problem is you need to rig the entire building with explosives which would take a hell of a lot longer than a couple of hours in between the two towers falling and the demolition of tower 7. The documentary is now impossible to find on youtube and tons of information has been scrubbed. You can see videos like this on rumble, though. And that is yet another giant can of worms.
there are degrees of speculation and degrees of trust in your own speculation, or in speculation by others, even. how much do you let that affect how you view politics. how much do you let that affect how you view the people around you. be wary of the sources your choosing to trust just as much as those you're choosing not to.
The only thing I absolutely know for certain is that we all know next to nothing. Once I got to this realization, I never let anyone's politics affect how I view them as a person. As strong or weak of an opinion someone has on anything makes me think no more or less of anyone. You can either pick and choose a side, pick and choose certain news outlets, or live in political purtagory and just be fully honest with yourself in the pursuit of truth and try to pick up on patterns and see where they lead.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:37 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:16 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
but they already have global control for decades it you listen to the people calling them out. but the world isn't destroyed. what are they waiting for, and how did they not account for someone who has been flirting with the presidency since the 80s?
I think they're genuinely terrified that Trump has the key to open the door that exposes their corruption and ends their stranglehold on the world. The government and media proclaimed that there was no doubt the disease originated from a Chinese person eating a bat. Speculation arose about it being formed in a lab which was ridiculed by every leftist media outlet on the planet and now it's well known that it was created in the lab and now nobody is talking about it. If it was created in a lab, how did it get leaked? Was it an accident? Was it leaked on purpose? The timing of crazy shit like this happening during an election year is a constant. Something always bizarre happens on the dot.

My best read through all of this gray area shit (and of course, I am fully admitting I could be wrong) is that they thought in 2016 that he was too big of an underdog to get control so they banked on HIlary winning and it backfired. In 2017 in Fauci's own words he said "No doubt Trump will face a deadly infectious disease outbreak during his presidency". They probably released Covid on purpose so they could use lockdowns under the guise of everyone needing to be protective of grandma, that way they could implement heavy mail-in ballots to rig the 2020 election. This is my best read, because I just find it extremely odd that in the previous elections there was always a steady rise of a couple million total votes and it was generally in the 50-60 million range and then suddenly in 2020, the election freezes in the middle of the night, all the fortified swing states that Trump had a commanding lead in over the course of weeks and months of counting the votes slowly evaporates and Joe Biden makes the biggest comeback ever in the history of anything. Joe Biden gets 81 million votes, out of nowhere and suddenly he's the winner. I read somewhere someone prophesizing this would happen about a month before that election took place and on election night I was waiting for it to happen. I was watching live as the votes suddenly stopped coming in and I knew in my heart it was done and they rigged it for Biden. I don't remember who said it or where I read it, but how could someone predict that happening exactly how it happened? When he announced he was running again in 2024, I realized that they would do everything they possibly could to prevent Trump from winning again. I fully expected someone to take a shot at him, and that happened too. It's just too big of a coincidence for me to believe that this shit isn't orchestrated by the corrupt world leaders that we never see or hear of.
this is all predicated on your pre-existing belief that he must be an outsider cause he said so. just be careful. *shrug*
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zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:44 pmthis is all predicated on your pre-existing belief that he must be an outsider cause he said so just be careful. *shrug*
My pre-existing belief is that Trump was running as a joke.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:45 pm
zombie wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:44 pmthis is all predicated on your pre-existing belief that he must be an outsider cause he said so just be careful. *shrug*
My pre-existing belief is that Trump was running as a joke.
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:38 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:33 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
He’s not the only president that didn’t get us into new wars. Where did you get that from?
I meant in my lifetime, sorry.
That’s incorrect though. Regan, Clinton,& Biden did not get us into any new wars either.
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Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:38 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:33 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
He’s not the only president that didn’t get us into new wars. Where did you get that from?
I meant in my lifetime, sorry.
That’s incorrect though. Regan, Clinton,& Biden did not get us into any new wars either.
I'm not sure we're on the same page. I mean even right now under Biden we have the Russia-Ukraine war?

Edit: I am now seeing where I mistyped my meaning. :P
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Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:39 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:18 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:38 pm
Lazerus wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:33 pm
Jason wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:10 pm And this is why I think Trump is genuine. He has been attacked and smeared like no other politician in our lifetime, people that used to love him suddenly hate him, he admits to taking advantage of loopholes in the tax code because of the corrupt system. If he was just another typical politician, there wouldn't be such a frenzy surrounding him. He's the only president that didn't get us into new wars, that points out the system is corrupt, that suggested we implement term limits for congress to make it harder to corrupt the system. I already know he isn't stupid, but what I'm not buying is he is some evil dictator type who is going to ruin the world. I think the people that are accusing him of these things are the ones who actually intend to do the things they're accusing him of.
He’s not the only president that didn’t get us into new wars. Where did you get that from?
I meant in my lifetime, sorry.
That’s incorrect though. Regan, Clinton,& Biden did not get us into any new wars either.
I'm not sure we're on the same page. I mean even right now under Biden we have the Russia-Ukraine war?

Edit: I am now seeing where I mistyped my meaning. :P
We’re not at war in Ukraine, Russia is.
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