Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:03 pmYou do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.
How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.
You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored
There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol
And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.
No man you just aren’t getting it at all. SURE does not “certify” anything. They exist completely independent of the electoral process. They are not under any obligation under state law to certify anything because that is not something they do.
I never once said that SURE certifies the election. The state of PA certified their own election despite SURE discrepancies. State officials and courts changed state legislative law during the election campaign which violated the equal protection and due process rights. This is just a small sample of corruption and shenanigans.
882,777 uninspected ballots were entered without any independent observation. This is literally required and completely against the law of Pennsylvania, and it was all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. Biden's margin of "victory" was 80,555.
Even if you account for PA's last second law changes, there are still several instances of illegal measures that were taken during the certification process that were completely ignored and are still ignored today.
And this is only Pennsylvania. We can dig deeper into more corrupt counties in key swing states that mystery dropped ballots in the middle of the night in 2020.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:03 pmYou do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.
How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.
You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored
There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol
And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.
No man you just aren’t getting it at all. SURE does not “certify” anything. They exist completely independent of the electoral process. They are not under any obligation under state law to certify anything because that is not something they do.
I never once said that SURE certifies the election. The state of PA certified their own election despite SURE discrepancies. State officials and courts changed state legislative law during the election campaign which violated the equal protection and due process rights. This is just a small sample of corruption and shenanigans.
882,777 uninspected ballots were entered without any independent observation. This is literally required and completely against the law of Pennsylvania, and it was all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. Biden's margin of "victory" was 80,555.
Even if you account for PA's last second law changes, there are still several instances of illegal measures that were taken during the certification process that were completely ignored and are still ignored today.
And this is only Pennsylvania. We can dig deeper into more corrupt counties in key swing states that mystery dropped ballots in the middle of the night in 2020.
You still aren’t getting my point since you keep referencing SURE as if it’s a relevant electoral data point (it isn’t) or believe its numbers have any bearing on the certification process (they don’t) so I’m not going to keep hammering that point. Better to just move on.
But yeah, I’ve seen everything you’ve referenced. There’s nothing new under the sun here. There’s a reason Trump’s team lost every single case. They were never able to present anything resembling evidence when prompted to.
I think I’m all set with this convo. Trump will likely lose again on Tuesday because he is wildly unpopular and ran a terrible campaign.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:03 pmYou do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.
How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.
You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored
There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol
And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.
No man you just aren’t getting it at all. SURE does not “certify” anything. They exist completely independent of the electoral process. They are not under any obligation under state law to certify anything because that is not something they do.
I never once said that SURE certifies the election. The state of PA certified their own election despite SURE discrepancies. State officials and courts changed state legislative law during the election campaign which violated the equal protection and due process rights. This is just a small sample of corruption and shenanigans.
882,777 uninspected ballots were entered without any independent observation. This is literally required and completely against the law of Pennsylvania, and it was all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. Biden's margin of "victory" was 80,555.
Even if you account for PA's last second law changes, there are still several instances of illegal measures that were taken during the certification process that were completely ignored and are still ignored today.
And this is only Pennsylvania. We can dig deeper into more corrupt counties in key swing states that mystery dropped ballots in the middle of the night in 2020.
You still aren’t getting my point since you keep referencing SURE as if it’s a relevant electoral data point (it isn’t) or believe its numbers have any bearing on the certification process (they don’t) so I’m not going to keep hammering that point. Better to just move on.
But yeah, I’ve seen everything you’ve referenced. There’s nothing new under the sun here. There’s a reason Trump’s team lost every single case. They were never able to present anything resembling evidence when prompted to.
SURE is a relevant data point and only one of several other points of contention I made. This is also the biggest discrepancy in their data the state has ever seen and it isn't even close.
They picked and chose which cases to look at and blatantly ignored the obvious ones, as stated above. But it is definitely best to move on from this. Even ignoring the legality of it all, if we can't even come to an agreement that this discrepancy and sudden dumping of ballots in the middle of the night, uninspected, which had a 99.5% result for Biden and resulted in the state just barely receiving enough votes to get him the victory is not even the least bit suspicious, then there is absolutely no point in arguing politics. It's more obvious than finding a guilty looking dog next to the overturned trash can when the dog was the only person home and saying it couldn't have possibly been the dog.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:03 pmYou do not want the answers because you are in the tank for Trump.
How am I supposed to respond to something negative like this? I could very easily say you are rejecting my evidence in a cop out because you have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I'm tired of politics going that route.
You reframed my evidence of illegal DoS/SURE certification by suggesting it is an electoral numbers issue when the fact that they certified it is illegal based on their own state laws. These are where the questions arise, and are either reframed or ignored
There’s a reason I keep mentioning that the state’s voter registration database (SURE) has nothing to do with election certification. What you are saying is factually incorrect, and this is now the third time I’ve told you why lol
And this is now the third time where I've stated that based on PA law they are not allowed to legally certify an election based on their recorded discrepancies.
No man you just aren’t getting it at all. SURE does not “certify” anything. They exist completely independent of the electoral process. They are not under any obligation under state law to certify anything because that is not something they do.
I never once said that SURE certifies the election. The state of PA certified their own election despite SURE discrepancies. State officials and courts changed state legislative law during the election campaign which violated the equal protection and due process rights. This is just a small sample of corruption and shenanigans.
882,777 uninspected ballots were entered without any independent observation. This is literally required and completely against the law of Pennsylvania, and it was all done in the middle of the night, when Biden was behind by 600,000 votes. Biden's margin of "victory" was 80,555.
Even if you account for PA's last second law changes, there are still several instances of illegal measures that were taken during the certification process that were completely ignored and are still ignored today.
And this is only Pennsylvania. We can dig deeper into more corrupt counties in key swing states that mystery dropped ballots in the middle of the night in 2020.
You still aren’t getting my point since you keep referencing SURE as if it’s a relevant electoral data point (it isn’t) or believe its numbers have any bearing on the certification process (they don’t) so I’m not going to keep hammering that point. Better to just move on.
But yeah, I’ve seen everything you’ve referenced. There’s nothing new under the sun here. There’s a reason Trump’s team lost every single case. They were never able to present anything resembling evidence when prompted to.
SURE is a relevant data point and only one of several other points of contention I made. This is also the biggest discrepancy in their data the state has ever seen and it isn't even close.
They picked and chose which cases to look at and blatantly ignored the obvious ones, as stated above. But it is definitely best to move on from this. Even ignoring the legality of it all, if we can't even come to an agreement that this discrepancy and sudden dumping of ballots in the middle of the night, uninspected, which had a 99.5% result for Biden and resulted in the state just barely receiving enough votes to get him the victory is not even the least bit suspicious, then there is absolutely no point in arguing politics. It's more obvious than finding a guilty looking dog next to the overturned trash can when the dog was the only person home and saying it couldn't have possibly been the dog.
Just want to add that what I’m saying about SURE is not a matter of opinion. It is not accounted for in the certification process. It’s not a relevant data point. Just a completely independent statistic that is used for other purposes.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:38 pmJust want to add that what I’m saying about SURE is not a matter of opinion. It is not accounted for in the certification process. It’s not a relevant data point. Just a completely independent statistic that is used for other purposes.
I got you. We can disagree with their relevancy there. My point in showcasing their numbers is that this is by far the largest discrepancy in the history of the state. Instead of looking into potential shenanigans they chose to ignore it regardless of their legality. What was indisputably illegal though was certifying the election of nearly a million uninspected ballots which conveniently contained 99.5% of Biden votes.
Jason wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:49 pm
Just hope nobody is too upset with either result and we can all have happy lives whoever wins. See ya around the boards.
Given the candidate I voted for will be lucky to get 150,000 nation-wide votes, I'm pretty sure I'm already unhappy with the state of the results.
That said, I certainly respect your wish to bow out of politican discussions, but I will tell you what I told a Trump supporter at work earlier - I may personally despise your politics, but I wish you luck.
Fuck the GOP, MAGA, TRUMP, The Dems and HARRIS! Hell, Fuck this whole goddamn election! It's been a clown show from the start.
All politics ultimately accomplish is dividing everyone and stirring up drama and creates a toxic environment. I'm just over it!
Jason I am a bit disappointed in you. I thought you were retired from discussing politics on here? lol
I hope all of you had a good Halloween and enjoy the up coming holidays. I'm taking a break from HMF for awhile until all this political shit dies down. Enjoy the rest of 2024!
Jigsaw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:45 am
I haven't gotten a single political text yet, nor have I ever been polled before. Disappointing, as far as I'm concerned.
You really wanna see shit like "Last Chance for 7X match for any Kamala donation!! Link below!!!"
After the 900th one it got annoying
Jigsaw wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:45 am
I haven't gotten a single political text yet, nor have I ever been polled before. Disappointing, as far as I'm concerned.
You really wanna see shit like "Last Chance for 7X match for any Kamala donation!! Link below!!!"
After the 900th one it got annoying
As a leftist, I'd just reply that voting for Harris = voting for genocide, and I'd hope that'd do the trick.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:38 pmJust want to add that what I’m saying about SURE is not a matter of opinion. It is not accounted for in the certification process. It’s not a relevant data point. Just a completely independent statistic that is used for other purposes.
I got you. We can disagree with their relevancy there. My point in showcasing their numbers is that this is by far the largest discrepancy in the history of the state. Instead of looking into potential shenanigans they chose to ignore it regardless of their legality. What was indisputably illegal though was certifying the election of nearly a million uninspected ballots which conveniently contained 99.5% of Biden votes.
But regardless, how are you dude?
I’ve been good brother. On the road (well, in the air) a lot for work these days. Trying to settle down at some point but dating sucks. I’ve become more uncompromising with my time and interests and eventually I’ll need to let that shit go.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:38 pmJust want to add that what I’m saying about SURE is not a matter of opinion. It is not accounted for in the certification process. It’s not a relevant data point. Just a completely independent statistic that is used for other purposes.
I got you. We can disagree with their relevancy there. My point in showcasing their numbers is that this is by far the largest discrepancy in the history of the state. Instead of looking into potential shenanigans they chose to ignore it regardless of their legality. What was indisputably illegal though was certifying the election of nearly a million uninspected ballots which conveniently contained 99.5% of Biden votes.
But regardless, how are you dude?
I’ve been good brother. On the road (well, in the air) a lot for work these days. Trying to settle down at some point but dating sucks. I’ve become more uncompromising with my time and interests and eventually I’ll need to let that shit go.
It's easy to just fall into the familiar place of comfort every day. I spent like 7 years straight just totally alone, not seeking a relationship and just engaging in comfort and interests. Eventually I got tired of the empty house and decided to find someone and have a child. You'll have to sacrifice some peace and a lot of your hobbies and interests but you're seldom bored and if you're depressed it'll certain lift you up out of a it at least a little bit. I feel much more self worth starting a family and having them depend on me. Taking on the responsibility of having people depend on you is probably the secret to life for men. At least that's my opinion anyway.
Headhunter wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:38 pmJust want to add that what I’m saying about SURE is not a matter of opinion. It is not accounted for in the certification process. It’s not a relevant data point. Just a completely independent statistic that is used for other purposes.
I got you. We can disagree with their relevancy there. My point in showcasing their numbers is that this is by far the largest discrepancy in the history of the state. Instead of looking into potential shenanigans they chose to ignore it regardless of their legality. What was indisputably illegal though was certifying the election of nearly a million uninspected ballots which conveniently contained 99.5% of Biden votes.
But regardless, how are you dude?
I’ve been good brother. On the road (well, in the air) a lot for work these days. Trying to settle down at some point but dating sucks. I’ve become more uncompromising with my time and interests and eventually I’ll need to let that shit go.
It's easy to just fall into the familiar place of comfort every day. I spent like 7 years straight just totally alone, not seeking a relationship and just engaging in comfort and interests. Eventually I got tired of the empty house and decided to find someone and have a child. You'll have to sacrifice some peace and a lot of your hobbies and interests but you're seldom bored and if you're depressed it'll certain lift you up out of a it at least a little bit. I feel much more self worth starting a family and having them depend on me. Taking on the responsibility of having people depend on you is probably the secret to life for men. At least that's my opinion anyway.
Sounds like you are enjoying the family man life. Much respect!
Headhunter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:36 pm
Yeah it’s looking like another four years of MAGA.
It's trending toward the exact map I predicted. I also had Trump winning the popular vote by about 2-3 points and it looks like that could also happen. Not counting chickens before they hatch, though. I am still side-eyeing potential shenanigans. I don't expect them to call it tonight, either.
and don't be a stranger.
