Trumpster Fire 2025

[zombie]

I do not at all look forward to the coming four years. And we need a new thread so we do not drown jig out of his own.

suffering, anguish, despair. yeah, i'm sad!

[Reign in Blood]

Now zombs, you do have something to look forward to. Summer Glau is gonna be one of the guest speakers at his inauguration. She's a good conservative Texan girl, so should be good speech.

[Jigsaw]

Might have helped if Democrats remotely tried to run a fair primary, or Biden hadn't had idiotically ran back in 2020.

Seems like the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in assuming that Americans shared their narrow view on the horrors of a Trump presidency.

In all fairness, I expected Harris to win myself - I thought the Roe v. Wade issue would bring out women that polling didn't quite capture - and the fact that Harris was such a disaster is just embarrassing for the party.

And naturally, I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for Harris whatsoever.

Here's hoping the party actually learns something from this instead of trying to throw the blame onto others.

[zombie]

Now zombs, you do have something to look forward to. Summer Glau is gonna be one of the guest speakers at his inauguration. She's a good conservative Texan girl, so should be good speech.

two by two. we're all screwed.

[Reign in Blood]

Might have helped if Democrats remotely tried to run a fair primary, or Biden hadn't had idiotically ran back in 2020.

Seems like the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in assuming that Americans shared their narrow view on the horrors of a Trump presidency.

In all fairness, I expected Harris to win myself - I thought the Roe v. Wade issue would bring out women that polling didn't quite capture - and the fact that Harris was such a disaster is just embarrassing for the party.

And naturally, I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for Harris whatsoever.

Here's hoping the party actually learns something from this instead of trying to throw the blame onto others.

What would they learn? Harris actually tried to shed some of her crazier progressive ideas and tried to appeal more toward the middle, no one bought it. Dems could push even further left, but that's part of their problem, most people like common sense stuff, not crying about trannies chopping off dicks etc. Common folk don't like those conversations at their dinner table.

[Jigsaw]

Might have helped if Democrats remotely tried to run a fair primary, or Biden hadn't had idiotically ran back in 2020.

Seems like the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in assuming that Americans shared their narrow view on the horrors of a Trump presidency.

In all fairness, I expected Harris to win myself - I thought the Roe v. Wade issue would bring out women that polling didn't quite capture - and the fact that Harris was such a disaster is just embarrassing for the party.

And naturally, I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for Harris whatsoever.

Here's hoping the party actually learns something from this instead of trying to throw the blame onto others.

What would they learn? Harris actually tried to shed some of her crazier progressive ideas and tried to appeal more toward the middle, no one bought it. Dems could push even further left, but that's part of their problem, most people like common sense stuff, not crying about trannies chopping off dicks etc. Common folk don't like those conversations at their dinner table.

Well, the fact that Harris was an unlikable, and rather fake, candidate, would be one thing to learn. Voters didn't find her appealing - I saw exit polls in which first-time voters went Trump, which just blew my mind. Apparently Trump did a better job of bringing out his base than Harris did, and the fact that Democrats have lost to a nutcase like Trump twice shows they don't have an idea of what's going on in this country.

When did I say they should make trans rights a focal point? That's something liberals might have suggested, not leftists. The Democrats' economic plan was virtually "things are better now than they were under Trump because of unemployment numbers" and that's not remotely an intelligent way to attempt to win over voters.

Republicans have a much easier time reaching the "common folk" than Democrats do. I mean, the Democratic Party barely exists is most of rural America - in any city with a population of over 60,000, sure, but in the middle of Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois? Democrats can't remotely reach these people with the message they have, and their idiotic reliance on celebrities like Taylor Swift just turns the average person off. It's all so fake - oh, Taylor Swift loves #CoconutCatLadyHarris lets go k-HIVE!! - and so obviously pandering that it's insulting.

Which I think has been a problem since that piece of trash Clinton stole the primary back in 2016. Democrats can't help but insult Trump supporters. They're addicted to it. They do not remotely understand, by-and-large, why so many people find Trump appealing, and the fact that, over the course of eight years, they still haven't figured it out, is again, embarrassing.

[zombie]

Might have helped if Democrats remotely tried to run a fair primary, or Biden hadn't had idiotically ran back in 2020.

Seems like the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in assuming that Americans shared their narrow view on the horrors of a Trump presidency.

In all fairness, I expected Harris to win myself - I thought the Roe v. Wade issue would bring out women that polling didn't quite capture - and the fact that Harris was such a disaster is just embarrassing for the party.

And naturally, I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for Harris whatsoever.

Here's hoping the party actually learns something from this instead of trying to throw the blame onto others.

What would they learn? Harris actually tried to shed some of her crazier progressive ideas and tried to appeal more toward the middle, no one bought it. Dems could push even further left, but that's part of their problem, most people like common sense stuff, not crying about trannies chopping off dicks etc. Common folk don't like those conversations at their dinner table.

don't listen to any rightwing pundits at the dinner table because they've always got their mouths full of trans. and they'll spit it all over you.

[Jason]

The first clip is so funny.

[Jason]

Might have helped if Democrats remotely tried to run a fair primary, or Biden hadn't had idiotically ran back in 2020.

Seems like the Democratic Party made a huge mistake in assuming that Americans shared their narrow view on the horrors of a Trump presidency.

In all fairness, I expected Harris to win myself - I thought the Roe v. Wade issue would bring out women that polling didn't quite capture - and the fact that Harris was such a disaster is just embarrassing for the party.

And naturally, I'm saying this as someone who didn't vote for Harris whatsoever.

Here's hoping the party actually learns something from this instead of trying to throw the blame onto others.

Even the insults were weaker. Being called garbage doesn't hit as hard as being a ______phobe racist sexist fascist.

[Tiggnutz]

Now zombs, you do have something to look forward to. Summer Glau is gonna be one of the guest speakers at his inauguration. She's a good conservative Texan girl, so should be good speech.

I can't tell if this is real or not

[Jason]

I was gonna start my own gloating thread so as not to sully Jig's thread. And anybody who didn't want to hear or anybody who wanted to join in could chime in with some funny stuff. So this thread works.

[Jigsaw]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

[Jigsaw]

I was gonna start my own gloating thread so as not to sully Jig's thread. And anybody who didn't want to hear or anybody who wanted to join in could chime in with some funny stuff. So this thread works.

You can gloat in my thread if you want. I'll be making fun of Harris and her shit campaign anyway for the foreseeable future. Don't muck up zombie's pristine thread, though.

[Jason]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

They abandoned the working class. Which is the vast majority of the country. They treated his supporters like subhuman scum. And still do. And basically indoctrinated people into hating people that support him. It caused a massive divide in the country. All this started happening before I even supported him. Instead of listening to what people say Trump is saying, or reading something transcribed from a speech, I listened myself. With context. And I liked things he said, he was funny. And seeing the media and celebrities seemingly randomly all come together at the same time to try to tear him down just made me pay more attention to him. The more I saw, the more I became a fan.

I have no personal indifference to anyone who voted for Hillary, Joe or Kamala. But they created a Never Trump base and the majority of that base completely despises anyone that likes him. It's sad.

[Jason]

I was gonna start my own gloating thread so as not to sully Jig's thread. And anybody who didn't want to hear or anybody who wanted to join in could chime in with some funny stuff. So this thread works.

You can gloat in my thread if you want. I'll be making fun of Harris and her shit campaign anyway for the foreseeable future. Don't muck up zombie's pristine thread, though.

His thread title is perfect for the shit I'd be posting.

[zombie]

Now zombs, you do have something to look forward to. Summer Glau is gonna be one of the guest speakers at his inauguration. She's a good conservative Texan girl, so should be good speech.

I can't tell if this is real or not

i'm certain it's false. but let's look to snopes!

[Jigsaw]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

They abandoned the working class. Which is the vast majority of the country. They treated his supporters like subhuman scum. And still do. And basically indoctrinated people into hating people that support him.

I think that analysis largely nails it, and the real question is whether or not Democrats will get it through their heads. I'm leaning toward 'no.'

[Jason]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

They abandoned the working class. Which is the vast majority of the country. They treated his supporters like subhuman scum. And still do. And basically indoctrinated people into hating people that support him.

I think that analysis largely nails it, and the real question is whether or not Democrats will get it through their heads. I'm leaning toward 'no.'

I'm not sure what they have up their sleeve, but their future looks Grim. They couldn't rig it this year and it showed. This was a landslide. And they're losing politicians to the right who could have otherwise been their nominee. They cry for democracy while rigging their own democratic elections. Bernie would have been the democratic candidate twice but removed him. And didn't even hold a primary this year. They blatantly cheat and their supporters blindly follow and hilariously echo the sentiment that they're the only party that can save democracy when they've shown they're the only party actively tearing it down.

[Jigsaw]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

They abandoned the working class. Which is the vast majority of the country. They treated his supporters like subhuman scum. And still do. And basically indoctrinated people into hating people that support him.

I think that analysis largely nails it, and the real question is whether or not Democrats will get it through their heads. I'm leaning toward 'no.'

I'm not sure what they have up their sleeve, but their future looks Grim. They couldn't rig it this year and it showed. This was a landslide. And they're losing politicians to the right who could have otherwise been their nominee. They cry for democracy while rigging their own democratic elections. Bernie would have been the democratic candidate twice but removed him. And didn't even hold a primary this year. They blatantly cheat and their supporters blindly follow and hilariously echo the sentiment that they're the only party that can save democracy when they've shown they're the only party actively tearing it down.

I agree with all of this also (aside from the rigging 2020 part, but I'm not getting into it).

And who says that the right and the left can't occasionally find points of agreement?

[Jason]

The first clip is so funny.

I didn't watch the whole thing - stopped at about the 2:50 mark - but these are the exact type of people that are utterly unable to understand why people vote for Trump.

As a socialist and a leftist, I can fully understand why people voted for Trump. I understood back in 2015, and though I thought Clinton would win, I knew she was the wrong candidate for Democrats to run against him (and I never voted for Clinton, naturally, as I found her an utter piece of trash), but the average liberal Democrat has no idea at all how to approach this, and while their hearts may be in the right place, if they don't understand the issue, they will never be able to defeat candidates like Trump in the future.

They abandoned the working class. Which is the vast majority of the country. They treated his supporters like subhuman scum. And still do. And basically indoctrinated people into hating people that support him.

I think that analysis largely nails it, and the real question is whether or not Democrats will get it through their heads. I'm leaning toward 'no.'

I'm not sure what they have up their sleeve, but their future looks Grim. They couldn't rig it this year and it showed. This was a landslide. And they're losing politicians to the right who could have otherwise been their nominee. They cry for democracy while rigging their own democratic elections. Bernie would have been the democratic candidate twice but removed him. And didn't even hold a primary this year. They blatantly cheat and their supporters blindly follow and hilariously echo the sentiment that they're the only party that can save democracy when they've shown they're the only party actively tearing it down.

I agree with all of this also (aside from the rigging 2020 part, but I'm not getting into it).

And who says that the right and the left can't occasionally find points of agreement?

It was most definitely rigged, but it's hard to discuss, so I get it.

I think we mostly agree. The two party system does a great job at fighting issues where people are close to a 5050 split, and then framing their arguments in a way that is incredibly divisive.

Abortion, for example:
1) if you are pro abortion, you support killing babies
2) If you are anti abortion, you don't care about a woman's bodily decision.