Avengers: Doomsday

[Lazerus]

When I first heard that Dr. Doom was finally going to make his grand entrance into the MCU I was excited because he is the last great Marvel villain left on the roster IMO. But, when it was announced that RDJ had been cast in the role I was super disappointed. I have not been this let down by a film project in many years. I have nothing against RDJ as an actor but given that his place in the MCU as Iron Man and that fact there are other great actors out there that could have played Doom (i.e. Mads Mikkelsen), and not one was even considered just pisses me off! This reeks of desperation by Disney executives who are trying to cover their asses over the fallout with the Jonathan Majors abuse scandal, also the reality that their vision for Kang failed and the MCU has been on a downward spiral for the past few years. So they decide to just "go back to what worked before" by casting RDJ and thus shitting on one of Marvel's greatest villains!

The MCU has never been perfect but they shot themselves in the foot with this whole multiverse bullshit. Yeah it was fun to see Deadpool and Wolverine finally meet up, watching the three Spider-Man actors team up etc. But they have taken the shit too far imo with the endless timelines and shit that doesn't even make sense. It wouldn't surprise me in the least that RDJ's Doom is not even Victor Von Doom but some fucked up Stark variant. And if that's the case then it really ruins the Doom character. I fucking hate Disney!

Yeah the movie will make money, we all know this! People will still buy tickets, taking their kids to the movie. Everyone complaining online about this casting choice means nothing! But it's really a fucking shame that the MCU, a franchise that started off well has been driven so far into the ground by poor writing and stupid casting choices over the years. Christina Bale's Gor wasted in one of the worst MCU films, Mads wasted in Doctor Strange, pointless multiverse storylines, She-Hulk, etc.

[zombie]

i want more tatiana maslany she hulk! (but please with a better handling of her fourth wall breaking)

i'm interested to see fantastic four: first steps, but i have kind of skipped the last few mcu films and most of the shows, so i'm kind of in a similar place to laz. downey as doom looks good to me though.

[Lazerus]

She-Hulk was garbage. Perhaps had they handled the fourth wall crap or (preferably) scrapped it all together it would have been better. The shitty CGI didn't help either.

I too want to see the F4 introduced but casting RDJ as Doom was fucking bs!

[zombie]

don't "garbage" my favorite comic book superhero!

[Lazerus]

I loved his performance as Stark and I view him as a good actor. I'm not mad at him or have any issue with him. I'm pissed at Disney because this was a bad choice. If they wanted to use a previous MCU actor then Mads would have made the most sense. If not there are plenty of actors out there that would have made a great choice for Victor Von Doom.

This reeks of a desperation move by Disney executives.

[zombie]

I loved his performance as Stark and I view him as a good actor. I'm not mad at him or have any issue with him. I'm pissed at Disney because this was a bad choice. If they wanted to use a previous MCU actor then Mads would have made the most sense. If not there are plenty of actors out there that would have made a great choice for Victor Von Doom.

This reeks of a desperation move by Disney executives.

oh, stark. downey is great and he'll probably do a good job as doom. i'd rather it not be a tony stark variant but he'll make it work, i'm sure.

[Lazerus]

I'll watch it eventually but I won't go to the movies to see it.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

I'm hoping at least that he would be disguised, not obviously RDJ, like JRD was both Gimli & Treebeard. Probably won't happen, but that's what I'm hoping. It was very disappointing news when this was announced.

I mean, I know back in the day with the Universal monster movies, there was a musical-chair thing going on with the actors, but there's a much larger pool to pull from now.

[Headhunter]

I feel like I lost nothing when I quit the MCU altogether after Endgame. I mostly just see the fans complain about the choices made since.

[Jason]

I quit around the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It was just too much to keep up with and it was getting repetitive for me. And then I became resentful because movies I loved were constantly getting bounced out of the theater so the next big marvel movie could take up 80% of the the movie screens.

[Headhunter]

I quit around the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It was just too much to keep up with and it was getting repetitive for me. And then I became resentful because movies I loved were constantly getting bounced out of the theater so the next big marvel movie could take up 80% of the the movie screens.

Guardians is maybe my favorite one but I also think it was the worst thing for the MCU because that very catty sarcastic humor became a mainstay in everything that came after it. But with lazier writing.

“Uh…so…THAT just happened!”

[Jason]

I quit around the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. It was just too much to keep up with and it was getting repetitive for me. And then I became resentful because movies I loved were constantly getting bounced out of the theater so the next big marvel movie could take up 80% of the the movie screens.

Guardians is maybe my favorite one but I also think it was the worst thing for the MCU because that very catty sarcastic humor became a mainstay in everything that came after it. But with lazier writing.

“Uh…so…THAT just happened!”

Oddly enough I think it was the humor in that movie that made me give up on the marvel flicks. The nail in the coffin really. They poured too much of it. Humor worked in Iron Man but wasn't anywhere near the prominent piece of the flick and RDJ just rocked the shit in that movie. I also have always been in the minority of preferring Edward Norton over Mark Ruffalo. Everyone seemed to think he was better immediately and I never understood it.

I wouldn't mind seeing some of the bigger marvel flicks I missed like the one with Thanos, but I don't miss it at all, and prior to Guardians I made sure to get a theater screening for every single one.

[zombie]

since endgame i only watch sporadically, when i feel pretty interested to. black panther 2, dr. strange multiverse and eternals were not so good. the spidey films are still fun. and i kind of want to see the third guardians of the galaxy, but keep finding excuses not to commit.

also, i've only been really interested to see two of the series' so far. (daredevil will probably be the third). i just feel like it has all lost the steam that it had, so i'll watch when a specific project looks cool, like fantastic four: first steps. but i don't feel the need to follow along the whole thing anymore.

[Lazerus]

The MCU films being turned into fucking comedies is why I gave up on it. Guardians was where it really started getting overly ridiculous and the last Thor film was just trash! This is why I preferred the Snyderverse because his films took themselves more seriously. Now I did enjoy Infinity War and Endgame, the humor was toned down in those films to the point of it being tolerable.

The Daredevil show was really good and more aimed towards an adult audience. I don't trust Disney and have little faith in Daredevil: Born Again. And I agree with Zombie, the MCU lost it's steam long ago. I feel part of the problem is that it's become too big and the multiverse crap has made it difficult for the audience to keep up.

[zombie]

just for clarification, when i said i was probably gonna watch daredevil, i meant daredevil: born again. i have seen the made for netflix show.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

The Multiverse stuff is what exhausts me. I never liked it in the comics, gave it chances in the movies (mostly positive luckily) and enjoyed the satire DP&W gave it, but I was hoping that would be the last of it yet it doesn't sound like it.

[Lazerus]

The Multiverse stuff is what exhausts me. I never liked it in the comics, gave it chances in the movies (mostly positive luckily) and enjoyed the satire DP&W gave it, but I was hoping that would be the last of it yet it doesn't sound like it.

I feel they also dropped the ball with Kang the Conqueror. He's an extremely complex character and IMO too difficult to translate to screen. What happened with the actor is just an unfortunate circumstance. But they should have gone a different direction. Now they are playing damage control and using Dr. Doom as the big bad. Now that can work but with the RDJ casting it's fucked them yet again.

[DancesWithWerewolves]

or just Recast Kang. I mean, I wasn't big on him as a character, but they were clearly trying to build to more with him cinematically, so it just seems like a waste now.

[Lazerus]

That would have been the smarter choice, recasting him.