Foo wrote:I think the feminization of our men is probabkly part of the globalist plan. Turn the people who would fight into little girls and there is no resistance.
I would like to show my emotions without being called a "pussy" by the fellow men, thank you very much. All of that "men must be macho" bullshit is just that - bullshit, not to mention it's potentially unhealthy for mental health.
Masculinity is a thing. Men and women are different, both physically and mentally. We are 3x stronger for a reason.
Men respect real men. Women love real men.
And as far as mental health goes, a good portion of the more feminine males I know are emotional basket cases. They tend to be creepy interlopers who have real problems unless they find careers in certain fields like media, art, and technology, and unfortunately there are not enough of those careers to keep up with the feminine-male explosion.
"Real men." Bullshit.
Bullshit for all of this, sadly. But not unexpected.
You may not agree, but is it not true? Why is the world dominated by alpha males? Ever notice the alpha male is with the good looking girl and the beta male, even if attractive himself, dates dumpy girls?
Who do you think takes more anti-depressants, construction workers or artists?
I think males who are more comfortable expressing their emotions and who don't buy into the bullshit you're perpetuating are more likely to take anti-depressants, which is a problem not with those of us who don't buy into the bullshit, but a problem with the society who thinks the whole "Men must be macho" crap is appropriate.
Women who think about suicide after getting an abortion is due to the negative way society treats her, more often than not, and not because of the abortion. Gay men who are emotionally screwed up are not screwed up because they're gay, but because of the way that society treats them. And men who are comfortable showing emotion instead of locking it up inside because "real men can't cry" are looked down upon not because anything is wrong with them, but because of society.
Not sure why I'm even bothering, but you're wrong.
You have a victims perspective on all those things. How about this:
1. Women get depressed after having an abortion because they chose to murder their unborn baby. It goes against every instinct a mother has to protect and nurture. An innocent person is killed for selfish reasons. Even if no one else knows, manystill get depressed, because it is haunting.
2. Gay men begin with poor mental health. Our sexuality is fundamental. Again, when someone is wired to go against instincts, it is not surprising they struggle in other ways as well.
Men can show emotion, but there are ways and times that are acceptable. When a man is behaving as a woman, it is only endearing to either those who see opportunity to exploit beta males or other beta males. Beta makes make great retail workers, secretaries, low level managers, etc. They make for a great voting base. So there are reasons why this agenda is pushed.
You have a wrong perspective on things.
It comes down to the dickish way society treats these people because of those who think like you. Gay people begin with poor mental health? God, what a disgusting and utterly idiotic point of view. Not surprising, though.
"When a man is behaving like a woman" - God, what a crock of shit.
Jason wrote:You saw Jiggy whine about Foo on the facebook? :p
Didn’t know it was Foo but yeah. Was a fairly good gamble it was Foo but could be someone else. We have some pretty strong opinions on here.
When I read something as idiotic as some of the stuff some people on here talk about, it feels right to point out to others how backwards some people still are.
Foo wrote:I think the feminization of our men is probabkly part of the globalist plan. Turn the people who would fight into little girls and there is no resistance.
I would like to show my emotions without being called a "pussy" by the fellow men, thank you very much. All of that "men must be macho" bullshit is just that - bullshit, not to mention it's potentially unhealthy for mental health.
Masculinity is a thing. Men and women are different, both physically and mentally. We are 3x stronger for a reason.
Men respect real men. Women love real men.
And as far as mental health goes, a good portion of the more feminine males I know are emotional basket cases. They tend to be creepy interlopers who have real problems unless they find careers in certain fields like media, art, and technology, and unfortunately there are not enough of those careers to keep up with the feminine-male explosion.
"Real men." Bullshit.
Bullshit for all of this, sadly. But not unexpected.
You may not agree, but is it not true? Why is the world dominated by alpha males? Ever notice the alpha male is with the good looking girl and the beta male, even if attractive himself, dates dumpy girls?
Who do you think takes more anti-depressants, construction workers or artists?
I think males who are more comfortable expressing their emotions and who don't buy into the bullshit you're perpetuating are more likely to take anti-depressants, which is a problem not with those of us who don't buy into the bullshit, but a problem with the society who thinks the whole "Men must be macho" crap is appropriate.
Women who think about suicide after getting an abortion is due to the negative way society treats her, more often than not, and not because of the abortion. Gay men who are emotionally screwed up are not screwed up because they're gay, but because of the way that society treats them. And men who are comfortable showing emotion instead of locking it up inside because "real men can't cry" are looked down upon not because anything is wrong with them, but because of society.
Not sure why I'm even bothering, but you're wrong.
You have a victims perspective on all those things. How about this:
1. Women get depressed after having an abortion because they chose to murder their unborn baby. It goes against every instinct a mother has to protect and nurture. An innocent person is killed for selfish reasons. Even if no one else knows, manystill get depressed, because it is haunting.
2. Gay men begin with poor mental health. Our sexuality is fundamental. Again, when someone is wired to go against instincts, it is not surprising they struggle in other ways as well.
Men can show emotion, but there are ways and times that are acceptable. When a man is behaving as a woman, it is only endearing to either those who see opportunity to exploit beta males or other beta males. Beta makes make great retail workers, secretaries, low level managers, etc. They make for a great voting base. So there are reasons why this agenda is pushed.
You have a wrong perspective on things.
It comes down to the dickish way society treats these people because of those who think like you. Gay people begin with poor mental health? God, what a disgusting and utterly idiotic point of view. Not surprising, though.
"When a man is behaving like a woman" - God, what a crock of shit.
Why is it so hard to believe that if someone is born with miswired brain that makes them desire members of the same sex, that same miswiring doesn't cause other issues? We know that being gay carries higher risk of risky sexual behavior, drug abuse, suicide, and depression. We know that birth order and such plays a factor in being gay. We also know that family facotros heavily into drug abuse and depression.
Chalking everything up to victimization is ridiculous and pretty closed minded.
Jason wrote:You saw Jiggy whine about Foo on the facebook? :p
Didn’t know it was Foo but yeah. Was a fairly good gamble it was Foo but could be someone else. We have some pretty strong opinions on here.
When I read something as idiotic as some of the stuff some people on here talk about, it feels right to point out to others how backwards some people still are.
Ever notice that the people called "backwards" are probably much happier with their lives than the people complaining about them?
Foo wrote:I think the feminization of our men is probabkly part of the globalist plan. Turn the people who would fight into little girls and there is no resistance.
I would like to show my emotions without being called a "pussy" by the fellow men, thank you very much. All of that "men must be macho" bullshit is just that - bullshit, not to mention it's potentially unhealthy for mental health.
Masculinity is a thing. Men and women are different, both physically and mentally. We are 3x stronger for a reason.
Men respect real men. Women love real men.
And as far as mental health goes, a good portion of the more feminine males I know are emotional basket cases. They tend to be creepy interlopers who have real problems unless they find careers in certain fields like media, art, and technology, and unfortunately there are not enough of those careers to keep up with the feminine-male explosion.
"Real men." Bullshit.
Bullshit for all of this, sadly. But not unexpected.
You may not agree, but is it not true? Why is the world dominated by alpha males? Ever notice the alpha male is with the good looking girl and the beta male, even if attractive himself, dates dumpy girls?
Who do you think takes more anti-depressants, construction workers or artists?
I think males who are more comfortable expressing their emotions and who don't buy into the bullshit you're perpetuating are more likely to take anti-depressants, which is a problem not with those of us who don't buy into the bullshit, but a problem with the society who thinks the whole "Men must be macho" crap is appropriate.
Women who think about suicide after getting an abortion is due to the negative way society treats her, more often than not, and not because of the abortion. Gay men who are emotionally screwed up are not screwed up because they're gay, but because of the way that society treats them. And men who are comfortable showing emotion instead of locking it up inside because "real men can't cry" are looked down upon not because anything is wrong with them, but because of society.
Not sure why I'm even bothering, but you're wrong.
You have a victims perspective on all those things. How about this:
1. Women get depressed after having an abortion because they chose to murder their unborn baby. It goes against every instinct a mother has to protect and nurture. An innocent person is killed for selfish reasons. Even if no one else knows, manystill get depressed, because it is haunting.
2. Gay men begin with poor mental health. Our sexuality is fundamental. Again, when someone is wired to go against instincts, it is not surprising they struggle in other ways as well.
Men can show emotion, but there are ways and times that are acceptable. When a man is behaving as a woman, it is only endearing to either those who see opportunity to exploit beta males or other beta males. Beta makes make great retail workers, secretaries, low level managers, etc. They make for a great voting base. So there are reasons why this agenda is pushed.
You have a wrong perspective on things.
It comes down to the dickish way society treats these people because of those who think like you. Gay people begin with poor mental health? God, what a disgusting and utterly idiotic point of view. Not surprising, though.
"When a man is behaving like a woman" - God, what a crock of shit.
Why is it so hard to believe that if someone is born with miswired brain that makes them desire members of the same sex, that same miswiring doesn't cause other issues? We know that being gay carries higher risk of risky sexual behavior, drug abuse, suicide, and depression. We know that birth order and such plays a factor in being gay. We also know that family facotros heavily into drug abuse and depression.
Chalking everything up to victimization is ridiculous and pretty closed minded.
Surely chalking everything up to just genetics is equally closed minded?
I would never claim society is not a factor. Just saying there is a big elephant in the room when talking mental health of a gay person and not addressing that the homosexuality itself is a sign of something being different.
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
Around 0.0000% or thereabouts.
Wouldn’t think that’s true. Expectation is everything
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
There is more than one way to feel like that is what I'm saying it's not about orientation
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
There is more than one way to feel like that is what I'm saying it's not about orientation
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
Tell people you are straight and people shrug. Go announce you are the queerest person alive on Facebook and people who barely acknowledge your existence will tell you how much they love you, how brave you are, invite you to dinner, and throw parties in your honor.
zombie wrote:no one argues that homosexuality is not different than heterosexuality.
Sure, so if they differ from normal in something so fundamental as that, it makes sense it could be affecting them in other ways. Maybe we need to stop blaming others and look at those individuals to find the answers.
it could be. we don't know if and how much that affects them.
if twins were held as unnatural, compared to one child birth from a pregnancy, might they have pretty similar issues, emotionally and psychologically? if they had to pretend that they were not twins. if their families felt shame because of their existence as twins. it could be perceived, after decades of this, that twins are just inherently mentally ill, because they're twins.
also fun fact, twins have been on the increase from around the 1980s, similar to homosexuals coming out?
and so we look at the individual for answers... what answers?
I'm sure the sheer stress of being seen as different leads to alot of different things I do not believe it's a genetic issue at all no different from a straight person who feels like they are an outsider or somehow lesser. Just my opinion
i'm inclined to agree with you. although, i don't know many straight people who feel like outsiders because they are straight.
Around 0.0000% or thereabouts.
Wouldn’t think that’s true. Expectation is everything
In SoCal, if you're straight, you're boring by default.
Foo wrote:
Tell people you are straight and people shrug. Go announce you are the queerest person alive on Facebook and people who barely acknowledge your existence will tell you how much they love you, how brave you are, invite you to dinner, and throw parties in your honor.
when you don't want to actually discuss anything, but just want to point your finger, this is how to go.
Foo wrote:
Tell people you are straight and people shrug. Go announce you are the queerest person alive on Facebook and people who barely acknowledge your existence will tell you how much they love you, how brave you are, invite you to dinner, and throw parties in your honor.
when you don't want to actually discuss anything, but just want to point your finger, this is how to go.
What did I say that is not 100% true?
It is all part of the virtue signaling game. People use the gay person to enhance their own standing.
Foo wrote:
Tell people you are straight and people shrug. Go announce you are the queerest person alive on Facebook and people who barely acknowledge your existence will tell you how much they love you, how brave you are, invite you to dinner, and throw parties in your honor.
when you don't want to actually discuss anything, but just want to point your finger, this is how to go.
What did I say that is not 100% true?
It is all part of the virtue signaling game. People use the gay person to enhance their own standing.
it is largely true, in our current society. but it's not much to talk about or discuss. and there is stuff we could actually have some good debate or discussion about.
