For modern musicians, the groupies ain't throwing away their meal tickets. But the ex-groupies who are now in their 50s and 60s, you would think something would come out. In general, I would say the music groupies are more vulnerable just in terms of not having any real options. Successful people gravitate toward each other in the film industry, musicians just like to bang hotties who do drugs and have some eclectic qualities.Reign in Blood wrote:What I find interesting, is where are the accusations on major musicians? Not talking the R. Kelly's or some shit that are known scum. From the 60's and beyond, you know the groupies and shiz were treated like crap, and modern rappers to their groupies etc. How wrestlers treated ring rats, and even fellow women wrestlers is known lore. That penny hasn't dropped.
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Not removing until John Elway is fired.
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Elvis had slumber parties with 12-13 year old girls and obsessively wanted to fuck his mom so nothing would shock me there.DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I've seen memes being made dragging Elvis and Steven Tyler through the mud as pedophile groomers.Reign in Blood wrote:What I find interesting, is where are the accusations on major musicians? Not talking the R. Kelly's or some shit that are known scum. From the 60's and beyond, you know the groupies and shiz were treated like crap, and modern rappers to their groupies etc. How wrestlers treated ring rats, and even fellow women wrestlers is known lore. That penny hasn't dropped.
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Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
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And met his wife when she was 14.Headhunter wrote:Elvis had slumber parties with 12-13 year old girls and obsessively wanted to fuck his mom so nothing would shock me there.DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I've seen memes being made dragging Elvis and Steven Tyler through the mud as pedophile groomers.Reign in Blood wrote:What I find interesting, is where are the accusations on major musicians? Not talking the R. Kelly's or some shit that are known scum. From the 60's and beyond, you know the groupies and shiz were treated like crap, and modern rappers to their groupies etc. How wrestlers treated ring rats, and even fellow women wrestlers is known lore. That penny hasn't dropped.
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LOL. Hold That Tiger!Headhunter wrote:Elvis had slumber parties with 12-13 year old girls and obsessively wanted to fuck his mom so nothing would shock me there.DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I've seen memes being made dragging Elvis and Steven Tyler through the mud as pedophile groomers.Reign in Blood wrote:What I find interesting, is where are the accusations on major musicians? Not talking the R. Kelly's or some shit that are known scum. From the 60's and beyond, you know the groupies and shiz were treated like crap, and modern rappers to their groupies etc. How wrestlers treated ring rats, and even fellow women wrestlers is known lore. That penny hasn't dropped.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
this woman is not being trusted because of inconsistencies in her story combined with the very suspicious timing, plus she is a political person with an opposing agenda to boot.zombie wrote:and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
Seriously, what would you think of any story that involves you naming three people who were there and none of them corroborate what the 4th person says?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
say a family finds their son goes missing and then his body is found later. the family calls it murder. do you ask the family "what it really murder though?" (or debate it on message boards, whichever) or do you err on the side of believing that it was murder, as friends and family and community, until you find out different?
it doesn't mean a witch hunt, it just means not dismissing the victim outright.
it doesn't mean a witch hunt, it just means not dismissing the victim outright.
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Grammatically correct that, zombs, before Foo sees.
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What does the evidence show? Boy is dead, but was he found with a gun in his hand and by all appearances that he shot himself with no leads or evidence anyone else was there?zombie wrote:say a family finds their son goes missing and then his body is found later. the family calls it murder. do you ask the family "what it really murder though?" (or debate it on message boards, whichever) or do you err on the side of believing that it was murder, as friends and family and community, until you find out different?
it doesn't mean a witch hunt, it just means not dismissing the victim outright.
Of does he have a bullet in his back and footprints walking away?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
said before that i don't know what to make of the kavanaugh situation.Foo wrote:this woman is not being trusted because of inconsistencies in her story combined with the very suspicious timing, plus she is a political person with an opposing agenda to boot.zombie wrote:and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
Seriously, what would you think of any story that involves you naming three people who were there and none of them corroborate what the 4th person says?
if you mentioned that story about the girl and you in bed, to another friend who was there, and they didn't remember it. does that mean it didn't happen? i don't know what to make of that particular situation.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
too late.Reign in Blood wrote:Grammatically correct that, zombs, before Foo sees.
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Damnit! I tried, he is quick on the draw.zombie wrote:too late.Reign in Blood wrote:Grammatically correct that, zombs, before Foo sees.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
so you'd ask your friend or family member if it was really murder? enh...Foo wrote:What does the evidence show? Boy is dead, but was he found with a gun in his hand and by all appearances that he shot himself with no leads or evidence anyone else was there?zombie wrote:say a family finds their son goes missing and then his body is found later. the family calls it murder. do you ask the family "what it really murder though?" (or debate it on message boards, whichever) or do you err on the side of believing that it was murder, as friends and family and community, until you find out different?
it doesn't mean a witch hunt, it just means not dismissing the victim outright.
Of does he have a bullet in his back and footprints walking away?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Without evidence of an event, it is the same as not happening for all intensive purposes.zombie wrote:said before that i don't know what to make of the kavanaugh situation.Foo wrote:this woman is not being trusted because of inconsistencies in her story combined with the very suspicious timing, plus she is a political person with an opposing agenda to boot.zombie wrote:and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
Seriously, what would you think of any story that involves you naming three people who were there and none of them corroborate what the 4th person says?
if you mentioned that story about the girl and you in bed, to another friend who was there, and they didn't remember it. does that mean it didn't happen? i don't know what to make of that particular situation.
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Reign in Blood wrote:LOL. Hold That Tiger!Headhunter wrote:Elvis had slumber parties with 12-13 year old girls and obsessively wanted to fuck his mom so nothing would shock me there.DancesWithWerewolves wrote:I've seen memes being made dragging Elvis and Steven Tyler through the mud as pedophile groomers.Reign in Blood wrote:What I find interesting, is where are the accusations on major musicians? Not talking the R. Kelly's or some shit that are known scum. From the 60's and beyond, you know the groupies and shiz were treated like crap, and modern rappers to their groupies etc. How wrestlers treated ring rats, and even fellow women wrestlers is known lore. That penny hasn't dropped.
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
Depending on how well they would react, I would either tell them exactly what I thought, I tell others I did not believe them. My family making up stupid theories does not make them any less stupid.zombie wrote:so you'd ask your friend or family member if it was really murder? enh...Foo wrote:What does the evidence show? Boy is dead, but was he found with a gun in his hand and by all appearances that he shot himself with no leads or evidence anyone else was there?zombie wrote:say a family finds their son goes missing and then his body is found later. the family calls it murder. do you ask the family "what it really murder though?" (or debate it on message boards, whichever) or do you err on the side of believing that it was murder, as friends and family and community, until you find out different?
it doesn't mean a witch hunt, it just means not dismissing the victim outright.
Of does he have a bullet in his back and footprints walking away?
Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
but i'm gonna take you at your word that it did happen. even, not knowing whether it did and not having any way to verify.Foo wrote:Without evidence of an event, it is the same as not happening for all intensive purposes.zombie wrote:said before that i don't know what to make of the kavanaugh situation.Foo wrote:this woman is not being trusted because of inconsistencies in her story combined with the very suspicious timing, plus she is a political person with an opposing agenda to boot.zombie wrote:and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
Seriously, what would you think of any story that involves you naming three people who were there and none of them corroborate what the 4th person says?
if you mentioned that story about the girl and you in bed, to another friend who was there, and they didn't remember it. does that mean it didn't happen? i don't know what to make of that particular situation.
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I appreciate Zombie beating Foo to the punch on the off the wall analogies. I can't be bothered to read all that but tip of the cap to you, sir.
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Re: Kavanaugh Debacle
it was only one off the wall analogy.Headhunter wrote:I appreciate Zombie beating Foo to the punch on the off the wall analogies. I can't be bothered to read all that but tip of the cap to you, sir.
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That's great, but it makes no difference. I am not asking to impact a person's life in any way with my story.zombie wrote:but i'm gonna take you at your word that it did happen. even, not knowing whether it did and not having any way to verify.Foo wrote:Without evidence of an event, it is the same as not happening for all intensive purposes.zombie wrote:said before that i don't know what to make of the kavanaugh situation.Foo wrote:this woman is not being trusted because of inconsistencies in her story combined with the very suspicious timing, plus she is a political person with an opposing agenda to boot.zombie wrote:and i'm saying, we have a tendency, as a society, to shame and dismiss and even threaten people for coming forward to even talk about being raped or violated. let alone go to the police about it.Foo wrote:
I am saying that without evidence, people can get away with things, and that is just part of the system. It is a very dangerous precedent we are setting by prosecuting without evidence.
both are dangerous. we should work toward not doing either, as much as we can.
Seriously, what would you think of any story that involves you naming three people who were there and none of them corroborate what the 4th person says?
if you mentioned that story about the girl and you in bed, to another friend who was there, and they didn't remember it. does that mean it didn't happen? i don't know what to make of that particular situation.