You mean "should" in a purely hypothetical reality where most demographics aren't a threat to Republican power? Because they're exactly right to not want most people to vote.showa58taro wrote:Everyone should want everyone to vote and make it as easy as possible.
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Re: Liberals and the Manufactured Divide
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
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We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
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iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
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It wouldn't be that way if everyone was voting.Headhunter wrote:You mean "should" in a purely hypothetical reality where most demographics aren't a threat to Republican power? Because they're exactly right to not want most people to vote.showa58taro wrote:Everyone should want everyone to vote and make it as easy as possible.
For one thing, there would hopefully be a return to a greater emphasis on the constitution, which is all real republicans ask for.
I think you would be surprised how many moderates would join the fray. It would be 100 million Foo's and 1 million Jiggy's.
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Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
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So you want voting, but not fraudulent voting, but want to have no good way to verify voting?Foo wrote:Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
Also anyone with a passport already has given biometric data to the state. As has anyone coming into your country for the last 10 years buddy.
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And? I have given up my data to work on the Census as well as to obtain a passport. Neither of those were fundamental rights. Voting is a fundamental right.showa58taro wrote:So you want voting, but not fraudulent voting, but want to have no good way to verify voting?Foo wrote:Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
Also anyone with a passport already has given biometric data to the state. As has anyone coming into your country for the last 10 years buddy.
In no way shape or form should you be forced to give up such data without evidence you have committed a crime. Way too easily abused.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-demo ... ction.htmlHeadhunter wrote:You mean "should" in a purely hypothetical reality where most demographics aren't a threat to Republican power? Because they're exactly right to not want most people to vote.showa58taro wrote:Everyone should want everyone to vote and make it as easy as possible.
Lol. It sure seems like Democrats are only looking for Democrat votes, not ALL votes.
"So, should we try to find some votes that might have been missed?"
"Make sure we only use the BLACK radio stations."
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What’s your solution? I mean I’m allfor just having people give their name and voting.Foo wrote:And? I have given up my data to work on the Census as well as to obtain a passport. Neither of those were fundamental rights. Voting is a fundamental right.showa58taro wrote:So you want voting, but not fraudulent voting, but want to have no good way to verify voting?Foo wrote:Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
Also anyone with a passport already has given biometric data to the state. As has anyone coming into your country for the last 10 years buddy.
In no way shape or form should you be forced to give up such data without evidence you have committed a crime. Way too easily abused.
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Black radio stations?Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-demo ... ction.htmlHeadhunter wrote:You mean "should" in a purely hypothetical reality where most demographics aren't a threat to Republican power? Because they're exactly right to not want most people to vote.showa58taro wrote:Everyone should want everyone to vote and make it as easy as possible.
Lol. It sure seems like Democrats are only looking for Democrat votes, not ALL votes.
"So, should we try to find some votes that might have been missed?"
"Make sure we only use the BLACK radio stations."
All votes need to be counted. Votes from black communities appear to have been lost/ignored/discounted. This seems a solution though it’s nit the only one. I saw 8 different tweets about Georgia votes and calling to confirm etc. I’m a white guy in London. Clearly it’s not just minorities who can hear and see these messages.
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That's a consequence of Republican cuntery.Foo wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-demo ... ction.htmlHeadhunter wrote:You mean "should" in a purely hypothetical reality where most demographics aren't a threat to Republican power? Because they're exactly right to not want most people to vote.showa58taro wrote:Everyone should want everyone to vote and make it as easy as possible.
Lol. It sure seems like Democrats are only looking for Democrat votes, not ALL votes.
"So, should we try to find some votes that might have been missed?"
"Make sure we only use the BLACK radio stations."
Not removing until John Elway is fired.
Re: Liberals and the Manufactured Divide
Drivers licenses marked with eligibility and those without get a free ID card with such eligibility confirmed.showa58taro wrote:What’s your solution? I mean I’m allfor just having people give their name and voting.Foo wrote:And? I have given up my data to work on the Census as well as to obtain a passport. Neither of those were fundamental rights. Voting is a fundamental right.showa58taro wrote:So you want voting, but not fraudulent voting, but want to have no good way to verify voting?Foo wrote:Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
Also anyone with a passport already has given biometric data to the state. As has anyone coming into your country for the last 10 years buddy.
In no way shape or form should you be forced to give up such data without evidence you have committed a crime. Way too easily abused.
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Re: Liberals and the Manufactured Divide
How did people vote before IDs?
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Who is paying for those free IDs? Obamerghard? LolFoo wrote:Drivers licenses marked with eligibility and those without get a free ID card with such eligibility confirmed.showa58taro wrote:What’s your solution? I mean I’m allfor just having people give their name and voting.Foo wrote:And? I have given up my data to work on the Census as well as to obtain a passport. Neither of those were fundamental rights. Voting is a fundamental right.showa58taro wrote:So you want voting, but not fraudulent voting, but want to have no good way to verify voting?Foo wrote:Voting should not involve giving your biometric data to the state.showa58taro wrote:iPhones and androids now gone with more Biometrics than most tho Gs did 10 years ago. There’s no reason not to invest in e-voting, among the many things you could do. Any number of simplifyers would work.Foo wrote:We could give everyone a marble.Headhunter wrote:Btw, could the voting mechanisms in the U.S. be any more primitive? I realize there are a lot of safeguards to account for, but holy SHIT.
Also anyone with a passport already has given biometric data to the state. As has anyone coming into your country for the last 10 years buddy.
In no way shape or form should you be forced to give up such data without evidence you have committed a crime. Way too easily abused.
In all seriousness, that's not a bad idea, Foo.
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Being white.Jmac Attack wrote:How did people vote before IDs?
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Lmao!showa58taro wrote:Being white.Jmac Attack wrote:How did people vote before IDs?
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I had to show ID when I voted, but I think I have had to all my life? I can't remember. But I think everyone deserves the right to vote. Like the guy who decided to buy diapers for his baby instead of an ID.
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In Cali all you need to do is say a street name in the area and they don't bother confirming it.Jmac Attack wrote:I had to show ID when I voted, but I think I have had to all my life? I can't remember. But I think everyone deserves the right to vote. Like the guy who decided to buy diapers for his baby instead of an ID.
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But you need to be registered?DancesWithWerewolves wrote:In Cali all you need to do is say a street name in the area and they don't bother confirming it.Jmac Attack wrote:I had to show ID when I voted, but I think I have had to all my life? I can't remember. But I think everyone deserves the right to vote. Like the guy who decided to buy diapers for his baby instead of an ID.
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That's the claim. I do the mail-in vote thing now so I don't have to deal with standing in line or the pressure of figuring out how things are worded right on the spot, but before, I was shocked at how they wouldn't cross reference anything, so long as you said a street name that's in the district.showa58taro wrote:But you need to be registered?DancesWithWerewolves wrote:In Cali all you need to do is say a street name in the area and they don't bother confirming it.Jmac Attack wrote:I had to show ID when I voted, but I think I have had to all my life? I can't remember. But I think everyone deserves the right to vote. Like the guy who decided to buy diapers for his baby instead of an ID.