i mean how do i answer that? i don't think there is anything to go on, save for anecdotes and individual examples based on perception. there's not a study or census into that, as far as i'm aware. i guess it depends on what you want to believe or what you'll take as potentially proof.Headhunter wrote:Does it really though? I have no doubt people take it that way, because we're wired to believe everything is about us.zombie wrote:i think this is two different issues. you can acknowledge that a problem exists, relating to bias or prejudice. and you can also acknowledge blame does often fall to those not connected to that problem, based on common traits.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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Maybe always being the minority in my own experience makes me see things differently. Looking at people as good or bad instead of black and white has always served meHeadhunter wrote:Does it really though? I have no doubt people take it that way, because we're wired to believe everything is about us.zombie wrote:i think this is two different issues. you can acknowledge that a problem exists, relating to bias or prejudice. and you can also acknowledge blame does often fall to those not connected to that problem, based on common traits.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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I mean, tell America that.Tiggnutz wrote:Maybe always being the minority in my own experience makes me see things differently. Looking at people as good or bad instead of black and white has always served meHeadhunter wrote:Does it really though? I have no doubt people take it that way, because we're wired to believe everything is about us.zombie wrote:i think this is two different issues. you can acknowledge that a problem exists, relating to bias or prejudice. and you can also acknowledge blame does often fall to those not connected to that problem, based on common traits.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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I do think the majority do see it that wayHeadhunter wrote:I mean, tell America that.Tiggnutz wrote:Maybe always being the minority in my own experience makes me see things differently. Looking at people as good or bad instead of black and white has always served meHeadhunter wrote:Does it really though? I have no doubt people take it that way, because we're wired to believe everything is about us.zombie wrote:i think this is two different issues. you can acknowledge that a problem exists, relating to bias or prejudice. and you can also acknowledge blame does often fall to those not connected to that problem, based on common traits.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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And that's fine. Just don't look and point at guys like me when you're spitting the bullshit because we had nothing to do with it.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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Again, not a thing that's happeningReign in Blood wrote:And that's fine. Just don't look and point at guys like me when you're spitting the bullshit because we had nothing to do with it.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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That’s why there’s a rise in White shootings.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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does majority status negate any possibility that that same kind of thing could be directed your way, as an individual placed into that majority statistically?showa58taro wrote:That’s why there’s a rise in White shootings.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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Oh well, Jason can go back to his black friends again then.Headhunter wrote:Again, not a thing that's happeningReign in Blood wrote:And that's fine. Just don't look and point at guys like me when you're spitting the bullshit because we had nothing to do with it.Headhunter wrote:You guys always make the mistake of personalizing the issue instead of viewing it through a societal lens. "White people" does not, and never has, meant "you, Zombie/Tigg/Jason, you specifically". The segregated structure of American cities with money and industry flowing out of the most heavily African-American areas, is absolutely a consequence of behavioral patterns of white people in general for generations. That's an uncomfortable reality in America. When black people move in somewhere, white people move out and the economy dies. Then you build a highway through it so nobody ever has to deal with "that part" of the city.
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You misconstrue. I mean shooting of Mexicans and black peoples BY white people. Because they wrongly blame them for perceived issues since their lives must be miserable because of minorities.zombie wrote:does majority status negate any possibility that that same kind of thing could be directed your way, as an individual placed into that majority statistically?showa58taro wrote:That’s why there’s a rise in White shootings.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
Whites shot by minoroties is a much smaller issue and has myriad reasons which don’t seem as obvious in terms of a root cause.
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Are you asking if I think it's possible? Sure, it's possible. Haven't seen it.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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i got what you meant, exactly.. you turned what i was asking around, hence me trying to re-word it. and i wasn't speaking just about shootings. but this is going nowhere.showa58taro wrote:You misconstrue. I mean shooting of Mexicans and black peoples BY white people. Because they wrongly blame them for perceived issues since their lives must be miserable because of minorities.zombie wrote:does majority status negate any possibility that that same kind of thing could be directed your way, as an individual placed into that majority statistically?showa58taro wrote:That’s why there’s a rise in White shootings.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
Whites shot by minoroties is a much smaller issue and has myriad reasons which don’t seem as obvious in terms of a root cause.
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fair. you haven't seen it. that's anecdotal but i can trust you. i guess it's too far to trust that others have seen it though.Headhunter wrote:Are you asking if I think it's possible? Sure, it's possible. Haven't seen it.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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Must be some articles/videos online that confirm this phenomenon, right?zombie wrote:fair. you haven't seen it. that's anecdotal but i can trust you. i guess it's too far to trust that others have seen it though.Headhunter wrote:Are you asking if I think it's possible? Sure, it's possible. Haven't seen it.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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Do you consider the concept of white privilege to be personally offensive?
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i'm sure there are examples recorded online. what makes it so unbelievable that that could be directed at some white people, when it clearly happens toward minorities?Headhunter wrote:Must be some articles/videos online that confirm this phenomenon, right?zombie wrote:fair. you haven't seen it. that's anecdotal but i can trust you. i guess it's too far to trust that others have seen it though.Headhunter wrote:Are you asking if I think it's possible? Sure, it's possible. Haven't seen it.zombie wrote:but not that some may blame you for shit because they associate you with the reason they are struggling?Headhunter wrote:Didn't say only white people can be racist.zombie wrote:do you think that some people make assumptions about a person and lash out, simply because they have black skin? if so, why is it so hard to believe that it happens because someone has white skin too?
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Why should it, it's a real thing.Headhunter wrote:Do you consider the concept of white privilege to be personally offensive?