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You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

zombie wrote:

Jigsaw wrote:
Not really. A system I want is theoretically possible. Non-income inequality causing capitalism isn't.

i guess it depends on what you mean by income inequality. if you mean that people can work to improve their situation above others in the same field is inequality, then yeah i guess it is not possible for that to exist in capitalism.

What is this, I don't even... Non-income inequality, the fuck is this?

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

I seriously think he at some extent does. There's no way to get his shit to work then to drain the middle class even more.

Jmac Attack wrote:

Foo wrote:

Jmac Attack wrote:

Headhunter wrote:*deep inhale*

Why would you box yourself into defending that lunatic?

Because this country is so divided that we even try to find a way to stick up for the bad people on whatever side people agree with.

It is not really though. I have not disowned a single person for their politics.

Neither have I. But you can't deny the tension between the left and right. We are becoming more and more of those two ideologies. And that sucks.

It is a side effect of good times. We create problems to give ourselves purpose.

If we were embroiled in a massive war that had to be fought or we would lose everything, we would be united. We are so far removed from that sort of thing that we argue over minutiae like it is life or death.

Think about this for a moment. A dude who was on the second highest court for many years got promoted to the highest court. People are acting like it is the end of the world.

Hint: nothing in your life will change. It is not that big if a deal. A bunch of dried up old tarts are worried about abortion? Really? No one wants to fuck them anyway. It is no big deal.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

Wanna bet his ideal system gives practically no reason to take risks to start a business and little incentive to work hard?

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

I seriously think he at some extent does. There's no way to get his shit to work then to drain the middle class even more.

maybe. if he decides to give you some kind of indication of what he wants in such a system, then we can discuss and debate, see if it could work. but shitting all over it without giving the chance for him to give his view, doesn't really feel productive at all.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

Wanna bet his ideal system gives practically no reason to take risks to start a business and little incentive to work hard?

it's possible. i was curious if it allowed for movie production and such myself, or if he felt like that would be worth sacrificing for such a system.

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

I seriously think he at some extent does. There's no way to get his shit to work then to drain the middle class even more.

maybe. if he decides to give you some kind of indication of what he wants in such a system, then we can discuss and debate, see if it could work. but shitting all over it without giving the chance for him to give his view, doesn't really feel productive at all.

Fair enough. Robin Hood of Indy, proceed.

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

I seriously think he at some extent does. There's no way to get his shit to work then to drain the middle class even more.

maybe. if he decides to give you some kind of indication of what he wants in such a system, then we can discuss and debate, see if it could work. but shitting all over it without giving the chance for him to give his view, doesn't really feel productive at all.

Fair enough. Robin Hood of Indy, proceed.

agreed. i want to see what he has in mind.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

Wanna bet his ideal system gives practically no reason to take risks to start a business and little incentive to work hard?

it's possible. i was curious if it allowed for movie production and such myself, or if he felt like that would be worth sacrificing for such a system.

BTW, I am betting on idealist bullshit, no real way to pay for anything to actually work for the country at large. But, as you wish, I'll let him conjure up his grand plan to save us from this evil capitalism.

Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

Also, Jiggy can't articulate his position after like 6 years of advocating for it. I think implementation is gonna be a real bitch.

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

Wanna bet his ideal system gives practically no reason to take risks to start a business and little incentive to work hard?

it's possible. i was curious if it allowed for movie production and such myself, or if he felt like that would be worth sacrificing for such a system.

BTW, I am betting on idealist bullshit, no real way to pay for anything to actually work for the country at large. But, as you wish, I'll let him conjure up his grand plan to save us from this evil capitalism.

i suspect that it will be some kind of balance between capitalism and socialism, that he has in mind. but we'll see if he feels like putting it forth.

Foo wrote:Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

you don't want people griping when they see faults in the system. complacency to the general population seems like something that would be right up your alley.

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

you don't want people griping when they see faults in the system. complacency to the general population seems like something that would be right up your alley.

I don't like people griping because they don't think they are given enough.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

you don't want people griping when they see faults in the system. complacency to the general population seems like something that would be right up your alley.

I don't like people griping because they don't think they are given enough.

and i don't either. i don't want hand outs to be the norm. and those that are given hand outs should be given them only in return for "volunteer" work, unless they're unable.

zombie wrote:

Reign in Blood wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:You go to school, get an engineering degree, then bust your ass working long hours. I drop out of school to get stoned and I sit at home finger painting. We both get paid the same.

Income equality. Practical.

i doubt seriously that that is what jigsaw wants, in a system.

Wanna bet his ideal system gives practically no reason to take risks to start a business and little incentive to work hard?

it's possible. i was curious if it allowed for movie production and such myself, or if he felt like that would be worth sacrificing for such a system.

BTW, I am betting on idealist bullshit, no real way to pay for anything to actually work for the country at large. But, as you wish, I'll let him conjure up his grand plan to save us from this evil capitalism.

i suspect that it will be some kind of balance between capitalism and socialism, that he has in mind. but we'll see if he feels like putting it forth.

Maybe we'll call it Jiggy-ism, and everybody can get Jiggy with it!

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

you don't want people griping when they see faults in the system. complacency to the general population seems like something that would be right up your alley.

I don't like people griping because they don't think they are given enough.

and i don't either. i don't want hand outs to be the norm. and those that are given hand outs should be given them only in return for "volunteer" work, unless they're unable.

Why don't they just get a regular job? That is "Volunteer" work for pay.

Lots of able people are unable when given the option.

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:

zombie wrote:

Foo wrote:Why don't we just skip to the logical end, which is everyone getting a weekly shipment of morphine and fentanyl to keep complacent.

you don't want people griping when they see faults in the system. complacency to the general population seems like something that would be right up your alley.

I don't like people griping because they don't think they are given enough.

and i don't either. i don't want hand outs to be the norm. and those that are given hand outs should be given them only in return for "volunteer" work, unless they're unable.

Why don't they just get a regular job? That is "Volunteer" work for pay.

Lots of able people are unable when given the option.

"unable" isn't optional. if there were more jobs to go around, that would also be a good step.