08-13-2018

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zombie wrote:scarlett would probably have been good for awareness and of success for similar movies down the line.so it's a shame she got pushed out.

ruby rose may not have earned it. or maybe she just hasn't had the chance to prove herself as an actress. you can't earn anything or prove anything, if you don't get cast. *shrug*
Just rubs me weird in general that your sexuality would become the topic of discussion for a job. Surprised liberals do not feel this way. It is not like a good chunk of leading men have not been packing the fudge since the silent film era.
why not give more opportunity to openly gay actors? does it mean less roles for straight actors? probably not at all, if you're honest. why not give more opportunity to minority actors? does it mean less roles for white actors? again not if we're being honest. more representation in roles, and in how those roles are cast, is not the bad thing that some people want to try to make it be.
Why consider their sexuality at all? Imagine for a moment you are reading for a part that requires you to kiss a woman. Should there be a discussion about who you are intimate with in real life? Should they dig through your social media to make sure you are straight enough?

The whole thing is so weird. Surely you see the difference between a person's appearance and a screen role and their personal sexual preferences? I don't think Conan the Barbarian should be played by a fat slob because that has never been the physical description of Conan. Who the actor sleeps with in real life matters not.
how long has it been that gay actors were passed over because they were openly gay? is that not to do with who they sleep with? it shouldn't matter, but for a long time, it mattered the other way. a move away from that is a positive move, in my opinion.
Never? Gay actors have never struggled for parts. There is a reason why drama and theater are gay stereoypes.
if it's never been a problem, then no one would have to pretend not to be. but there are several classic actors who were suspected to be gay, but in the closet. is that because they would never have been denied roles if they were openly gay? :P
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James Dean, Marlon Brando, Spencer Tracy, Rock Hudson, Richard Pryor, etc.

Being gay seems like it makes you an iconic megastar who has no problem getting work during your lifetime, accolades, and celebration long after your death.
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The closet existed for mainstream America, not for Hollywood. Being gay has never been a problem within the industry, but they stayed closeted to the public because your average person was not into it.
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Foo wrote:The closet existed for mainstream America, not for Hollywood. Being gay has never been a problem within the industry, but they stayed closeted to the public because your average person was not into it.
if there is a closet, then they're not openly gay. you're trying to skirt the issue.

moving to a place of more inclusion and more diversity of roles and actors is not a bad thing. nor is straight actors playing bisexual, gay, or trans roles, in my mind.
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Foo wrote:The closet existed for mainstream America, not for Hollywood. Being gay has never been a problem within the industry, but they stayed closeted to the public because your average person was not into it.
if there is a closet, then they're not openly gay. you're trying to skirt the issue.

moving to a place of more inclusion and more diversity of roles and actors is not a bad thing. nor is straight actors playing bisexual, gay, or trans roles, in my mind.
It is shitty for kids to have to be exposed like they are now, but other than that, it doesn't matter as gays were never excluded. In fact, they were over represented and some of the biggest stars ever.
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Are you really telling me it is somehow better to know which male movie stars have anal sex with other men, than simply allow them to have private lives and enjoy their work on screen?
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And now I crossed the 40,000 word milestone. My novel is now officially a novel by technical terms.
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Foo wrote:Are you really telling me it is somehow better to know which male movie stars have anal sex with other men, than simply allow them to have private lives and enjoy their work on screen?
that's not what i'm telling you, but you're desperate to turn this into a bad thing or a gross thing. go figure.
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Foo wrote:Are you really telling me it is somehow better to know which male movie stars have anal sex with other men, than simply allow them to have private lives and enjoy their work on screen?
that's not what i'm telling you, but you're desperate to turn this into a bad thing or a gross thing. go figure.
What are you telling me?

Where is the outrage when a gay man plays a straight role? It literally has happened in many of the biggest films ever by some of the biggest stars. Now all of a sudden there must be outrage because a minor part is played by a straight guy?

Is weird and creepy.
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Foo wrote:
zombie wrote:
Foo wrote:Are you really telling me it is somehow better to know which male movie stars have anal sex with other men, than simply allow them to have private lives and enjoy their work on screen?
that's not what i'm telling you, but you're desperate to turn this into a bad thing or a gross thing. go figure.
What are you telling me?

Where is the outrage when a gay man plays a straight role? It literally has happened in many of the biggest films ever by some of the biggest stars. Now all of a sudden there must be outrage because a minor part is played by a straight guy?

Is weird and creepy.
i welcome both. i'm not outraged at either, but you seem to be. weird and creepy indeed.
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